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Which drugs would create world peace/human harmony?

daveslaine

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My thoughts regarding human compassion and harmony all have me believe that a fast way of causing it through medicine.

Most of the worlds population lives based on fear. Caffeine is their favorite drug. They've drunk it for so long they no longer feel the effects when drinking. They no longer feel the change of mind when their brain hits the neuron that says, "drink caffeine". They just do it and get their dose of caffeine.

No wonder why they are so stressed, fatigued, and uptight. Caffeine releases adrenaline and blocks adenosine. Adrenaline causes stress when released for too long, and is also basically the 'fear' drug.

So people have been fearing everything and rushing and speeding in this fast life, so that one day they might reach a good, succesful, and happy life, but they never make it there. Caffeine never lets them truly concentrate and focus on their goal, it just releases the natural fear chemical to kick them in the back and throw them in a situation really quick and unprepared so they could do something.

Adrenaline also makes blood go away from the brain, and take it to the body. Once again, good for running away from a mad man, not good for chilling, doing small things or working a job which you can basically ease in and relax on.

Therefore, with low blood in their head and constant adrenaline tiring them, they become fucked, and even dependent, avoiding withdrawals by drinking the poison more.

They become used to a world of fear and unclear thought, so thus, they drink coffee and or other caffeine drinks so that they can control their 'fear'. By drinking caffeine, they release adrenaline that way, so they are not surprised later when something scary or frightening comes up. Also, they become used to fear this way, and at the same time, they drain their adrenaline reserves to also avoid fear, and also place the fear into their daily cup of coffee, and thus, it becomes a sad way of living, and early and painful death. Their lives, addicted to caffeine, becomes a life of mediocrity, a life of sturggle, a life of sleep, a life of submission, a life of gossip, and a life of oppression.



My belief is that there are two beautiful drugs with the most extensive and longest history in the world that can open the brains of humans, and help give hope, and activate the dreams, creativity, imagination, harmony, and connectedness/unity.

Cannabis and Opium. Yes, Cannabis, will show once again the picture of life. What our existence is, and how we are on this plain of existence. Cannabis activates our mind, and helps us humans manifest our goals much quicker. At the same time, any evil thought or bad things that we try to bring out on Cannabis, cause intense fear, fright, terror, and paranoia, thus, we are taught the hard way how to avoid evil thoughts and devilish ways.

And of course, opium, now not exactly opium in todays world, and because opiates can be addictive, more precisely, over the counter codeine, 200 pills of at least 15mg codeine a month, limited by ID. By taking codeine and or cannabis together, we become much more aware of what it is to love, feel depth, connect to our companions, cherish and be grateful, not judge, not cause pain to others, accept people for who they are, relax and take things easy, and care for another in a good way.

But look at what they give us today. Alcohol, I dont even have to explain, and it is a poison. Nicotine, once gain, people cant do anything without it, plus smoking is super toxic, and just makes you ugly, caffeine, already explained it in depth, and the over the counter meds are pretty pathetic as well. Anti-inflammatory medications for pain do nothing but cause this 'dead-like', zombie feeling rather than cause the removal of pain;this is why it causes liver damage.

My conclusion is that cannabis must become aware to the whole country, and must be at the very least legalized for medicinal use. And codeine should be available over the counter with a limit.

Our planet and country is fucked, and tell me, would you rather walk around with crackhead, metheads, drunk fucks, people jittery and not making sense on caffeine, people who smell like shit because they constanly smoke cigarettes and become paralyzed without one, or would you rather have people who smoke cannabis, and take some codeine?

And cannabis rap songs must be turned down. Cannabis is for spiritual and chakra awakening. Cannabis is to make your mind and heart stronger, and supposed to make your manifestations come much faster and become much more locally available and very obvious that they have occured or are happening. Most people who smoke cannabis these days unfortunately do so and listen to the fucking wigger rappers who do nothing but destroy and kill the beauty and true originality of the drug/plant. They endorse use of cannabis as being rebelling and saying 'fuck you' to your parents, mom, dad, family, and lovers, especially mixed with degrading our women, like we are somehow superior.

When this happens, then our world and the human global/mass consciousness level will be elevated, until then, educate people not to fucking drink, drink caffeine, nor smoke.
 
While I believe that drugs should be legalized, I personally do not think that they can create world peace and harmony, at least not alone. In my oppinion, that has to come from people learning how to be more understanding and compassionate of each other and of their surroundings.

Also, I don't really think that the use of caffeine, nicotine and alchohol are the cause of an angry, agressive, cut-throat society, but are more so a reflection of our societal values.

I guess I feel like this is just too much of a generalization. I don't honestly believe that there is a "right way" to smoke cannabis, and claiming that it is soley for spiritual and chakra awakening seems pretty ludicrous to me. Drug's can bring about new perspectives and creativity, but let's not kid ourselves, a lot of the time people just like to get high to escape the bullshit of every day life-and I don't think that will ever change, especially if we do manage to reach a point of harmony. If everything is perfect, you either wouldn't need drugs, or you'd need them more than ever to avoid the monotany of it all.
 
Muscle relaxants, benzos & opiates, lol! People say psychedelics do but I disagree......most of the scientists in the world that created things that can cause the extinction of mankind were definitely doing psychs. Psychs can have a positive outcome is someones life or the ending can be disastrous.

In all seriousness, I doubt any drugs could ever cause world peace...........
 
I guess I feel like this is just too much of a generalization. I don't honestly believe that there is a "right way" to smoke cannabis, and claiming that it is soley for spiritual and chakra awakening seems pretty ludicrous to me. Drug's can bring about new perspectives and creativity, but let's not kid ourselves, a lot of the time people just like to get high to escape the bullshit of every day life-and I don't think that will ever change, especially if we do manage to reach a point of harmony. If everything is perfect, you either wouldn't need drugs, or you'd need them more than ever to avoid the monotany of it all.
A+ post, Zneg.
Psychs can have a positive outcome is someones life or the ending can be disastrous.

In all seriousness, I doubt any drugs could ever cause world peace...........
This ^ Not everyone is mentally (or even physically) fit/capable to use drugs for recreation, medicinally, socially, etc. Everyone IS different and theres always going to be a difference in opinion even if everyone smoked herb or dropped L once a month. World peace is just a complete fantasy imho.
 
I think Zneg nailed it, but it's an interesting thought, what the world might be like if all of our coffees and sodas contained an opiate instead of caffeine.
 
I think Zneg nailed it, but it's an interesting thought, what the world might be like if all of our coffees and sodas contained an opiate instead of caffeine.

probably a Brave New World.

In all serious though, shit-I'd be more than pleased to have a cup of syzurp to start my day.
 
Id start my day with a Cannabis Coffee (I suppose I actually can since Im in CA, but still haha). Theyre so good, omg :D

Not sure if there is much more discuss here imo.
 
I wonder why wasn't MDMA bought up. MDMA is considered an empathogenic drug, as it promotes empathy and compassion among fellow human beings. Imagine a world where its just like a rave party where everyone is on ecstasy and embracing peace, love, unity, respect.

-PLUR
 
I wonder why wasn't MDMA bought up. MDMA is considered an empathogenic drug, as it promotes empathy and compassion among fellow human beings. Imagine a world where its just like a rave party where everyone is on ecstasy and embracing peace, love, unity, respect.

-PLUR
Imo, a large percentage of the population would abuse it to seek that emphathogenic feeling over and over, leading to them downgrading their 5HT receptors causing depression, anxiety, psychosis, etc and throwing off a peaceful equilibrium. As much as MDMA has brought many great friendships into my life, I dont see the world being able to use it for the greater good as a whole. You only really want to do MDMA up to 4 times in a year, imo, and with that kind of time in between uses the balance of peace would be thrown off by the time of the next dose.
 
I Sort of said this before, but I feel like yes, there are drugs that if everyone was mandated to take you could get a world that at a glance might resemble some type of glorious eutopia. But in the end, this wouldn't really be an achievement of human beings who strove for a stronger, more compassionate collective conscious- it would just be a bunch of people that were too doped out to even be assholes. That's not harmony, that's a tragedy to think that the only way we could learn to get along would be through the steady intake of mind altering chemicals.

I like to get high just like almost everyone else here, and I believe certain drugs are good, and can give you valuable new perspectives on life. Even using drugs as a crutch is not always a bad thing- But resorting to drugs to create peace and respect for nature on a world wide scale just strikes me as lazy quite honestly, and if that's what it would take to keep us from destroying one another, than we're not worth saving in the first place.
 
Interesting idea, topic, but no I don't believe theres a drug that can cause world peace. At least not without terrible side effects. Sure, notoric pot smokers are calm and peaceful but they are also very lethargic and apathic. They spend a lot of time by philosophising about things exactly like that, and just thinking about something and never actually doing it is useless.

Can't comment on opium much since I never tried it and don't even know anybody who tried opiates (I stick to speedy/alcohol people) but judging from its extreme physical addiction I can't imagine how this would be any good for society. Just look at this forum, damn, half of all topics are about addiction/withdrawal from opiates and it seems to me that most people regret it after few years, wish they never tried them. Whilst alcohol, while certainly very dangerous at high doses, has relatively small percentage of addicted users. And it allows so many people around the world (especially shy) to make new friends. Theres may be more wasted lives from alcohol than from certain opiates but that's just because almost everyone drinks. But the percentage isnt very high.

Of course all stimulants - as much as I love them personally - are out of the question totally since those generally tend to make people too self esteem, aggressive and manic, quite the opposite of what we discuss here..

Psychs? No way either. Too many people simply dislike being totally out of this world.

On the other hand if theres one drug I wish it wouldnt exist, it must be cigarettes. Sooo many people die from it every second, so addictive (imo much more than coke) and for what? 5 minutes of better concentration? The positive effects of nicotine are totally negligible. Almost all other drugs have potential to create good feelings/euphoria at least in a some people but I've never heard of anyone feeling fantastic because he smoked a fucking cig. You literally smoke only because you must, it never gives anything good in long term to anybody.

Edit: oh and I totally don't get the part about caffeine.. I mean, what? Poison? Fear? Man what have you been smoking.. 90% of people just live totally normally on coffee and can stop it easily if they want to. It is physically addictive, but it's about 1/100 of opiate withdrawals from what I heard. You need to drink huge amounts of coffee to make it really dangerous to body or mind and I don't know anybody who does that, it just won't make you think "if I don't have a next cup I'm gonna die".

And that's just coffee, which is probably the most "dangerous" form of caffeine, apart from pills.. if you tell me tea is also terrible you're straight crazy..
 
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Mdma.net has some good stuff on how sustainable serotonergics could change fix the world, but even if one could eliminate hate and fear I don't think that would just create instant world peace.
I don't believe theres a drug that can cause world peace. At least not without terrible side effects.
I think 6apbhmm's is right but I would say that's that true not only for drugs but for any civilization or mindset one could construct. The drive to act and succeed is simply to intertwined with the willingness to use risky and violent means.
 
I wonder why wasn't MDMA bought up. MDMA is considered an empathogenic drug, as it promotes empathy and compassion among fellow human beings. Imagine a world where its just like a rave party where everyone is on ecstasy and embracing peace, love, unity, respect.

-PLUR

Because if people used any MDxx drug instead of our caffeine or whatever else, everyone would be psychotic.

But yeah, opiates and marijuana would be the 2 likely candidates.
 
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