which came first - the junkie or the junk? meth encounters.

[DJ 303]

Just watched louis Theroux's documentary about "the city addicted to crystal meth" and it sparked off some thoughts.

i know some of this has been covered already though i'm interested to hear people's subjective opinions and experiences with the substance and the culture around it, particularly, though not exclusively, outside the U.S.A

i have only enountered the drug since DJing and living in east asia and i havent found any city that is infested with depraved destroyed and depressed compulsive theiving junkies, though ive seen a few old boys gone to seed.
its been 6 years now, and i have an extremely close knit group of well-loved, perfectly stable and moral friends who all use it together and have a blast everytime.
i have never cheated lied or stole to fund the next desperate hit, and i have never seen any of my social circle do anything immoral or act unethically as a result of it.

i would like to say at this stage i'm not advising doing the drug or defending its addictive nature either.

it seems to be of poular opinion that almost everybody gets "hooked" on this substance in particular, even if they "dabble" with it, and then would resort to selling their own granny to get a bump bag.
particularly i have found a very negative view of the drug from American's ive encountered and met through BL, TV, travel etc.

is it chicken and egg stuff? the junkie or the junk? the tweaker or the tweak?
would meth have forced jesus to blag your sandals for his next tweak?
or have i really just been lucky?

i don't consider myself to be holier than thou, but at the end of a weekend, even if i do note a physical or mental crave, i just allow that to pass with a glass of red wine and a joint, a beer and a benzo, or a lovely meal and fine company. After using this substance for a few years now, am i suddenly one day gonna want to rape a granny for a point bag?
or are my friends gonna suddenly rape me for a point?
i don't see it somehow.

any thoughts?

 

[WatMyConditionIsIn]

meth addiction is WAAAAAY overhyped... just like addiction to any other drug. ive heard stories of opiate-esque physical withdrawal from meth (puking, sickness, etc...) but have never encountered it myself. it depends on the person, and their physical chemistry. I have over used methylamp several times but have been fortunate enough to avoid any serious WD effects. all i have ever noticed is a desire to get spun again, which is easily countered with a few drinks, benzos, opiates, weed, or simply not doing more meth for a few days. the desire for more is strongest after my last hit. and if my last hit is at 6am and there is no chance of more i accept that and by the time my guy opens at 12am i am usually not in the mood for more jib, ill get something else that is non-speedy. meth addiction (like all others) is 100% subjective...

 

[Bomboclat]

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[Sweet P]

Not everyone who uses meth is addicted to it, but considering how this drug is one of the most addictive substances around, there is a very high chance of developing an addiction/dependence with regular use. The brain kinda "re-programs" itself to think that it's normal to be high on meth. That's what has happened to me. When I'm not on meth, I can't function normally, so I'm practically dependant on the stuff.

There is a huge problem with meth here in New Zealand. It's incredibly expensive (many times more expensive than in other countries), so unless you're a millionaire, the only way you can possibly fund a meth addiction is through crime. I think that's the main reason why the meth subculture has such a bad image. The drug itself is also much more neurotoxic than other substances... even heroin doesn't fuck with a person's head as much as meth does.

 

[Trains]

In Louisiana, I know that there is more of a problem with heroin than meth, but I've found I don't trust either. A junkie is a junkie, and that's what separates someone who is willing to steal for their drugs from someone who can just go through the withdraws and wait until the next weekend for another party.
I admit, I consider myself a heroin junkie. It ran my life until I stopped using. But it's possible to use responsibly, I just think with drugs like heroin and meth, it's more difficult. Who wants to responsible when you feel that great? At first, anyway.

 

[skeettls]

The junkie before the junk

You have to be predispositioned to like the drug before you start going after it