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Where's the Love gone (No Empathy anymore)

puasoton

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In my area it seems that real MDMA and proper pills are back after a very very long absence.

I've bought some on a couple of occasions in the last month, tested the mdma crystals with an EZ test marquis and it quickly went dark brown/black which is a positive sign.

Jan-April I was using Mephedrone regularly (half a gram a weekend) but have hardly touched it since, so my brain should have recovered by now.

When I used this MDMA for the first time a few weeks ago I had a nice buzz and was decently happy, the comedown the next day was very clean, especially compared to Mephedrone...however there wasn't much chattiness, confidence and there certainly wasn't any feelings of love and empathy towards the others.

I did some again on Wednesday, which was probably too soon, normally I save MDMA for special occasions but did some regardless. I did about 200mg in a capsule to make sure I didnt have any tolerance issues. I was visibly fucked according to other people, my jaw was going and I had eyewobbles. A bit of chattiness this time but less of a buzz, and again no empathy/love.

Is this something other people are experiencing with the MDMA thats around at the moment?

Despite the positive results of the eztest, is it possible I've actually been getting an mdma-like substance that fools the test?
 
Is this something other people are experiencing with the MDMA thats around at the moment?
For a question like this you need to be more specific about your location. I'll assume you're in the UK as you mention a long drought.

It is possible that you have been taking another substance that caused Marquis to turn black. Closely related MDx compounds will be indistinguishable with that reagent. From what you describe, it is possible you had MDEA, which many people describe as having less "love" than MDMA. It is also possible to fool the test by including a small amount of MDx with other active compounds, amphetamines or piperazines for instance.

However, it is also possible that what you have is indeed MDMA, and that you have lost the magic. This is something that happens with repeated use of the drug; the first few experiences are the most magical, and have a special something that is hard to regain subsequently. It's a shame, but it happens.

My advice would be to wait a while, then try to source some MDMA from a different batch that is rated highly by people you trust. You may find that the magic is back, or it may have gone forever. There isn't any way for anyone to tell you what you took over the internet.
 
Not sure about the dark brown/black. Purple/black would have been better. Maybe a touch of phet in there?

As Yerg says, it depends on loads of things. Name of the pills or Molly colour/texture would help. But also you say it's been a while since you had any good quality, but how much did you hammer it back when there was enough around?

But as a guess, I would suggest that what you had was low quality. It would seem there is no lack of the real deal out there at the moment, with old school pills/molly, and old school buzz.

UK anyway.
 
dude you took 200mg after not taking any for a long time what do you expect? you mustve had massive teeth chattering and eye wiggles, the last time i took over 100 mg and hadnt had mdma for a while i was paranoi as a motherfucker andn got all the other bad side effects like nausea, and depression and anger
 
Hmmm...this is a bit puzzling. If you had the teeth chattering and crazy eye wiggles, then you probably did have an MDxx substance. Maybe it was MDEA, but sometimes if pipes are mixed in, it will really kill the empath and loved up empathetic feelings for me. Sometimes, it will kill the roll entirely. Or perhaps the meph did something to your receptors...don't know much about the stuff, but will probably stay away from it until more is known.

Lot of possibilities here. Could've also been the amount you took and/or the environment. If the magic was gone, it should've been back by now, although it sounds like you went on a bit of a meph binge...again not sure what the reprocusions are for that.
 
This has been happening to me lately. I don't believe I lost the magic cause I still roll hard! But it's been different lately.. It's like I'm flored like almost paralyzed where I don't want to do anything but zone out listen to music and smoke cigs, even though I'm in this incredible state i don't have that empathy feeling were I'm connected with everyone..

I guess I'm just used to the feeling and it's not the same.

It could also be my environment. I've been rolling at home mostly with my gf. And It can get a bit old.
 
^You can lose the magic and still roll hard depending on how you define roll hard. It sounds like from what you described, you may have indeed lost the magic. It really doesn't take very long for it to happen if your rolls are less than three months apart IME.

Is that state you're in really that incredible? Is it worth it? Are you just getting the mdma side effects (ie jaw clenching/chattering, eye wiggles/blurry vision, visuals) without the openess, empathy and love?

May be time for a good six month break. Could be well worth it.
 
No no no. I feel exactly as I did the first time rolling but for the past two months i've rolled in my house with my gf where we would just Hang out and have a hardcore sex session.

I know I know it's a waste of mdma but I enjoy it. I seriously doubt i've lost the magic. I think I do a pretty good job at spacing out my rolls. I really think it's my environment and the people I'm with.
 
Got ya...yea, I find that in order to function well sexually, if you know what I mean, I have to sort of bring myself out of my roll a bit if I'm rolling hard. Otherwise, can't concentrate.
 
The common advice seems to be take a break which is the conclusion I came to myself.

When I was doing Meph it was only on nights out at clubs with good DJs.

Before Meph I would deliberately save MDMA for "special occasions", eg really big club nights with my absolute favourite DJs.
 
Loss of empathy is part of loss of "magic"- which can happen, even after a break sometimes =( If you know for sure it's MDMA, the issue isn't the drugs- however, there is a lot of "ecstasy" made from related chemicals, so it's not impossible.
 
I have had reduced effects the last few rolles as well. Less empathy and love. Last time was because we were taking 5-HTP daily, including just before the roll. I have done 5x 1200 mg piracetam. We are going to take 2400 mg tomorrow and roll around 10:30 pm; I'll let you know if it helps.
 
hmmm, im thinking its a possiblity of not so good rolls, try different batch from different source ya know and make a verdict off that, and note the ez-test color differences so you can compare and see whats going on with that kinda brownish shit.
 
Ok so I took 1000mg vitamin C, 1200 mg of magnesium with vitamin B, 3600 mg of piracetam. We drank fruit juice, red win, Malibu and some beer during the roll. But not a lot of alcohol. It is great on the comedown to get rid of that feeling of disappointment.

The roll was definitely improved. Wasn't even my best roll on the brown crystal. But I was more energetic and more skin sensitive. Nothing like pills used to give me in the US, but I have ether lost that or this European molly is some of this "new synth" crap that doesn't quite do the trick.

Next day, I'm not happy glowing, but I don't feel bad and I'm in a general good mood and motivated to go out around people. Another bad thing about rolling on Saturday night in Europe is that if you feel like being around people you won't have much hope. Towns are ghost towns on Sunday. I just loaded up on 5-HTP, piracetam, vitamin C and 600 mg of magnesium with vitamin B.
 
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