Infinite Jest
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Re: Ease: I would take MattPsy's word on this one. Assuming he is who I think he is, he probably has a better idea about this than anyone . Anecdotal evidence suggests that Ease is similar to a mellow dose of MDMA. I haven't taken it myself though.
As regards BZP/TMFPP vs MDMA. I prefer MDMA. If I was in the UK, I would take MDMA any day of the week in preference to BZP/TMFPP. But in NZ, I know that I can buy BZP/TMFPP products, have a good, safe, legal night out, for probably a third of the cost of a pill. And I know what I'm getting. No chance of buying a dud pill and getting nothing for my money. I think that perspective is reasonably widespread.
Regarding manufacture in NZ: in my research [see sig], I don't remember finding any media coverage of busts of MDMA labs. That contrasts to extensive coverage of busts of P labs. It's possible that I missed the media coverage; equally possible that the cops have missed all the labs. But given that the chemicals to manufacture MDMA are harder to come by than those needed to make meth, I think it's likely that there aren't many, if any, MDMA labs here.
Certainly, the usage of ecstasy in this country is not high. Stats show that something like 60% of the people who use ecstasy only use it 1-2 times/year. So one might assume that they are otherwise using BZP/TMFPP. [source: ilkins C, Reilly J, Rose E, Roy D, Pledger M, Lee A (2004) The Socio-Economic Imapct of Amphetamine Type Stimulants in New Zealand: Final Report].
As regards BZP/TMFPP vs MDMA. I prefer MDMA. If I was in the UK, I would take MDMA any day of the week in preference to BZP/TMFPP. But in NZ, I know that I can buy BZP/TMFPP products, have a good, safe, legal night out, for probably a third of the cost of a pill. And I know what I'm getting. No chance of buying a dud pill and getting nothing for my money. I think that perspective is reasonably widespread.
Regarding manufacture in NZ: in my research [see sig], I don't remember finding any media coverage of busts of MDMA labs. That contrasts to extensive coverage of busts of P labs. It's possible that I missed the media coverage; equally possible that the cops have missed all the labs. But given that the chemicals to manufacture MDMA are harder to come by than those needed to make meth, I think it's likely that there aren't many, if any, MDMA labs here.
Certainly, the usage of ecstasy in this country is not high. Stats show that something like 60% of the people who use ecstasy only use it 1-2 times/year. So one might assume that they are otherwise using BZP/TMFPP. [source: ilkins C, Reilly J, Rose E, Roy D, Pledger M, Lee A (2004) The Socio-Economic Imapct of Amphetamine Type Stimulants in New Zealand: Final Report].