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Beenhead said:
I seriously do not believe you.
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I enjoyed the text you mentioned as well. But, it is actually true, I began in school again recently and I haven't even taken organic chemistry I.
 
Fast: I had researched Kemp pretty heavily back when I was looking at STP pretty heavily, and you know (I am sure) the faction within the Brotherhood who concentrated on the substance). I found Kemp to be interesting, but I was told, and also per researching it when I looked at the other substance that he had been working solely off Bear's recipe. I will have to look into what you are saying, it would be fantastic to look at.


To me though, LSD is such a hassle, 144 manhours with an experienced 2 man team that I always wondered why anyone bothered given the wide range of other more promising and easier to make hallucinogens. I guess like the Brotherhood, they had to really be in love with the substance.

I will look at itthough, thanks.
 
nuke said:
I enjoyed the text you mentioned as well. But, it is actually true, I began in school again recently and I haven't even taken organic chemistry I.
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Haha, you're going to be one of those bastards who completely destroys the curve. Ah, speaking of curves, I should get back to work...
 
Nuke, you really do make me wonder....

Self taught, highly intelligent, same 'feeling false' reaction to MDMA....you thinking what I'm thinking?
 
A few years of uni chem, diddnt finish the degree/real life got in the way.
A fairly indepth emegerncy medical/life support training program from armed forces, there was alot of pratical/hands on pharmacology/pharmacy in terms of using drugs to carry out the task of keeping an injured soldier alive while waiting for evac/a real medic/doctor.... its a bit shy of a paramedic level of education, but was none the less a great thing to learn.

the rest from the interbutts/reading in the library/ect.
 
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I have internet experience and knowledge on pharmacology and neuropharmacology LOL. I wish to learn more on pharmacology in the near future when I go to college. I need my GED and 2 years in community college first though. I also bought a text book on core concepts of pharmacology. It's interesting. I really love this field of study.
 
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What is amazing to me is how a country like the US could require as much education as it does just to become a Pharmacist let alone a pharmocologist, let alone any other more specialised genre. I have only met one compounding
Pharmacist within the last 10 years easy (in America). A chimp could count tablets (maybe a dolphin too although I would like to see the dolphin bottle it up hahah). I know why Pharmacists need to be so educated (now), just do not see it ever being utilised and so wonder if the educational requirements will be changed anytime soon.


Definitely very interesting field, just under utlised in a huge way.
 
rachamim said:
What is amazing to me is how a country like the US could require as much education as it does just to become a Pharmacist let alone a pharmocologist, let alone any other more specialised genre. I have only met one compounding
Pharmacist within the last 10 years easy (in America). A chimp could count tablets (maybe a dolphin too although I would like to see the dolphin bottle it up hahah). I know why Pharmacists need to be so educated (now), just do not see it ever being utilised and so wonder if the educational requirements will be changed anytime soon.
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pharmacists need to be well trained and smart because they have to pick up the lethal combinations which doctors, in their ignorance, all too often prescribe. counting pills is for the assistant pharmacist.

I learnt everything I know from 'the ladybird book of neurochemistry', but I also studied the ladybird book of lying.: ) I think neuroscience books would be so much more interesting if they came with samples, or were pop up books.

To me though, LSD is such a hassle, 144 manhours with an experienced 2 man team
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sounds like a time and motion study for the MBA holding clandestine chemist,

144 man hours for a er 2 man team is that 288 man hours for a one man team or 1 man hour for a 144 man team? or am I misunderstanding the concept of man hour? don't like the numbers much.
 
vecktor said:
pharmacists need to be well trained and smart because they have to pick up the lethal combinations which doctors, in their ignorance, all too often prescribe. counting pills is for the assistant pharmacist.
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YEAAAH! Absolutely agreed. Some workmates of mine are pharmacists and they can all tell you several stories about miseducated medics when it comes to prescribing remedies... The pharmacist is like a 'built-in safety lock' in the health system.

Murph
 
Don't forget the financial motivation to keep students in university seats for PharmD programs... The universities love the tuition guaranteed by having students around for four or five years.
 
Limpet_Chicken said:
Nuke, you really do make me wonder....

Self taught, highly intelligent, same 'feeling false' reaction to MDMA....you thinking what I'm thinking?
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Stop trying to poach one of the ADD mods - she hasn't got time for such distractions whule she's working for a higher cause here =D =D
 
Poach, fast? what do you mean?

I wasn't trying to poach anyone of the kind, I was just going to suggest to Nuke, that she might want to check out www.spectrumites.com

Hence my 'do you wonder...' post.
 
fastandbulbous said:
Stop trying to poach one of the ADD mods - she hasn't got time for such distractions whule she's working for a higher cause here =D =D
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Why dont you get back into academia? There is a lot of stuff you can do with out choppin brains out of animals! You would be a valuable addition to any lab
 
Beenhead said:
Why dont you get back into academia? There is a lot of stuff you can do with out choppin brains out of animals! You would be a valuable addition to any lab
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IMHO...
Once you leave academia it is next to impossible to get back in and rise up, it is set up to favor those who stay and deal with the decade of crap pay and conditions in the most bitchy back stabbing environment possible.

Those that leave and do real work and get used to real levels of pay find it very difficult to get back in at a level that reflects their experience, instead they end up going back in at the early post doc level, as a badly paid research assistant and are at a 10 year disadvantage to those who never left academia the returners are competing with spotty academics fresh from PhDs, who accept poor pay and conditions.

The science culture has managed to create barriers to the easy flow of people and ideas in and out of academia and we are all poorer for it. I wish a choice didn't have to be made but in reality one chooses industry or academia.
 
^ Says it all. As such I go for the casual research approach! =D

After all that I went into education (did a PGCE to become a professional child tamer =D)

I actually wonder if any of the kids I taught frequent this Bluelight thingy 8o
 
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Recommendations on books / sites i could start learning chemistry from? Everything involving drugs and direct branches from it, mainly? ;)

I'm a UK highschool graduate.. if it matters.
 
^ are there any working links for uploading that paper? every link I've tried seems to be broken, and I don't trust the stuff on the first page considering it was last updated in 2006...
 
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