Where are the designer opioide's?

[Kizaru]

Hi all,

So i am from Holland and we can order all kinds of designer drugs . From stims to psychedelics you name it . But there are no designer opioide's , only shitty odsmt . So why aren't there any designer morphine/oxycodone ? I enjoy kratom but i really want to try some oxy or morphine . Is it to difficult to make or something ?

Kind regards ,

 

[Quasimoto]

Nitazines? AP-237/8? U-47700?

They are out there, but very deadly.

I would imagine opiate derived RCs are a different story. I presume thebaine would be the precursor, which is controlled, and comes from the plant. I bet most practical designs have already been patented as well. Can't legally work with or make them.

 

[Kizaru]

Nitazines? AP-237/8? U-47700?

They are out there, but very deadly.

I would imagine opiate derived RCs are a different story. I presume thebaine would be the precursor, which is controlled, and comes from the plant. I bet most practical designs have already been patented as well. Can't legally work with or make them.

Yeah i mean like a designer morphine or oxycodone ?

 

[Cult315]

Yeah i mean like a designer morphine or oxycodone ?

Like Quasi said, most practical opiate analogues have been patented and that’s what “designer morphine or oxycodone” would be. If not patented they’re still highly illegal, afaik, to work with practically anywhere. The risk, and difficulty, in creating drugs like morphine and oxy is too high and too impractical for the RC market.

Fentanyl and its analogues are so widely available because it’s made in Mexican Cartel and Chinese(is it still even made by the Chinese?) Superlabs. It’s super cheap and easy to make, and these people do not give a shit about people getting fun, safe drugs. It’s made solely for profit to fund criminal organizations and nothing further.

RC opioids/opiates are pretty damn dangerous from what I’ve gathered and are best to be avoided if you don’t really know what you’re doing. In many cases with RCs it doesn’t matter how well you know your stuff, anyway - a simple mislabel or lack of knowledge from a vendor can lead to an overdose. Up until recently I’ve always just been a lurker on the site so I don’t really know the users well but I even know of a few who were very experienced and ended up losing their life from novel opiates.

I doubt there will be any RC opiates around any time soon that aren’t super potent and deadly. Not worth the risk at all looking into if you’re even slightly opiate naive as you’ll probably end up killing yourself

 

[Kizaru]

Like Quasi said, most practical opiate analogues have been patented and that’s what “designer morphine or oxycodone” would be. If not patented they’re still highly illegal, afaik, to work with practically anywhere. The risk, and difficulty, in creating drugs like morphine and oxy is too high and too impractical for the RC market.

Fentanyl and its analogues are so widely available because it’s made in Mexican Cartel and Chinese(is it still even made by the Chinese?) Superlabs. It’s super cheap and easy to make, and these people do not give a shit about people getting fun, safe drugs. It’s made solely for profit to fund criminal organizations and nothing further.

RC opioids/opiates are pretty damn dangerous from what I’ve gathered and are best to be avoided if you don’t really know what you’re doing. In many cases with RCs it doesn’t matter how well you know your stuff, anyway - a simple mislabel or lack of knowledge from a vendor can lead to an overdose. Up until recently I’ve always just been a lurker on the site so I don’t really know the users well but I even know of a few who were very experienced and ended up losing their life from novel opiates.

I doubt there will be any RC opiates around any time soon that aren’t super potent and deadly. Not worth the risk at all looking into if you’re even slightly opiate naive as you’ll probably end up killing yourself

Thx for the explanation . I understand now , chat gpt gave the exact same kind of answers .

 

[Quasimoto]

I was reading about some crazy morphine analog that China made for medical use, has a 200 hour half life or some shit.

But it would be illegal to make.

 

[Kizaru]

I was reading about some crazy morphine analog that China made for medical use, has a 200 hour half life or some shit.

But it would be illegal to make.

Ofc in china , they also make xylazine cheap asf