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When you know you've had enough and crossing the line

Brainitch

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From your experience...what made you stop your stimulant binge and say goodnight? What were your signs. Did you ever push them?
Also, even though you wait many hours, say 8 before dosing again on a stim, could that still be hard on your heart after an all nighter? I feel like I just pushed it. Not sure though.no swelling in body, heart rate just a little faster little tingle in hands. Just took enough to stay awake for important task this morning.
 
When you randomly think that you might die. Pushing it any further is risk taking and careless. Always stop at the first signs of your body being strained, with whatever substance. If the thought of too much comes across your mind, means you don't like the way your body feels, because you're in tune with your body. Taking more is asking for it.
 
How long have you been going on stimulant binges? It's important to know because going on a binge every once in awhile can be harmless, but if you're constantly binging, yes, it could be hard on your heart. I think you (sound) like you should be fine for the short term, but for the long term? If you keep binging, it could be harmful. For me, when I used to binge on stims,I wouldn't stop until I was strung out as hell and reached that point where you're in that weird psychosis state of "i'm really awake, but i haven't slept for days and my body hates me" any stimulant binger knows the feeling. And I made sure I didn't go on binges more than twice or so a month, since my drug of choice wasn't stimulants.

Never pushed stims, although I push other things. Although my boyfriend at the time pushed coke and said it was the best feeling in the world.I just stuck to snorting, since like I said, my DOC was not stims and I really look for the opiated rush.

If you wait 8 hours, dose again, like i said before, it should be okay DEPENDING on how often you're doing this. If you continuously take stims 8 hours after binging, you're putting stress on your body. I've known people who, once in rehab, get their heart checked out by a doc and find out they've had 2 or 3 mini heart attacks and they didn't even know it bc they were so effed up. Just be careful, give yourself a break. I know exactly what you mean by pushing it too much and feeling like you went overboard. As long as you give yourself a break, you should be good, just try to be careful for next time.
 
When im sitting in a room with my best friends and i feel the thoughts creeping in.. They don't like you.. They wait for you to get fucked and then take the piss out of you, in front of you, in some kind of code they have.. They're all looking at you and realising you are paranoid.. so they can take the piss and then brush it off as paranoia..

Gave away 4g's of mephedrone and walked home..

Stimulant psychosis hitting me is when i stop before the drugs are gone.

Well.. that's how i used to be..

Now i can use small amounts, eat, sleep and have plenty more.
 
1 When I keep dosing but don't feel high (or only feel high for like 30min)
2 When I'm legit worried my bad heart's gonna finally stroke me out
3 When the negatives rly start to outweigh the positives
4 When I'm out
 
Amphetamine binges, usually after 3 nights w/o sleep I feel so shitty I want to stop the binge and pop some downers. The contrast the downers give at that point is amazing, a high in itsself. =D

Sometimes I go longer, just depends on how I feel. Usually it's the sleep deprivation that "forces" me to take a break.
 
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I never cross the line on drugs i sniff the line


seriously tho when your walking through nottingham at 3 in the morning and its my 3rd night up with no sleep and the only food i have eaten is plant food(mephedrone) but instead of eating im sniffing it and you know youve crossed the line when youu start hallucinating, your stomach feels as if its eating itself and your to busy sniffing mcat to notice a poilce car driving towards you i had to ditch my mcat and it got found but we got away and i had to walk 3 miles home on a comedown:/
 
I'm usually alright at rationing my drugs

I know its to much when I'm on a dilly binge and keep going just to pass out sleep off my high and wake up in the morning with a raging head ache. Probably due to lack of oxygen lol.
 
when i cant get comfortable, looking outside, listening for cars in the driveway. thats the kinda shit that makes me go upstairs and take an etizolam or something. take the literal 'edge' off. but if i dont have landing gear i will do stims.
my opiate binges go too far when i end up being found with the spike still in by my gf after work.
 
1) When i just fall asleep like a baby (some weird paradoxal adverse reaction sometimes) I can litteraly snort about half a gram in 3 hours and fall perfectly asleep. Still got that 'fucked up' feeling when i wake up afterwards.. Any idea somebody? some kind of logical explanation ? I've been hearing lately from my doc that i might have some form of unknown not-labeled ADHD which in fact makes you panicky/anxious, hyper, unconcentrated, the feeling that u lose a little bit of yourself when you enter like a mall or something mainly because of the overwhelming crowd.. the last one is really hard to explain, but you can kinda compare it with having all your thought on a perfect row and one,two..poof and u feel like an absolute tard because u'r mind just got unplugged..

2)When I'm clinching that hard that my tongue gets uncontrollably stuck between my teeth which results in little cuts and afterwards major pain attacks whenever I drink something sparkling or eat something spicy.

3)When i just had f*cking enough, I unwillingly associate the stuff with something nasty and repugnant. Quite happy for that, makes it a hell of a lot easier to press brakes..

4)The fact that I'm a good sleeper,( I actually love sleep tbh.. ) makes me wonder what 's so thrilling about being up for 4 days.. I really really can't see the fun in that, or maybe i'm just not that into the major para combined with the most shitty bodyload i can imagine. The longest i did was 48 hours and for me that's the absolute maximum.. To fond on my bed i guess.. also I always notice a somewhat 'opiate' like effect in my legs when I'm in the comedown, that shit is uber funky. I love it, makes me relaxed as hell..

Cheers

Roofie
 
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I know I've had enough Opiates when I'm dopesick--meaning when I run-out.

I know when I've had enough Benzos when nobody wants to be around me.

I know when I've had enough Crystal when I start looking for shards in the carpet, etc.

And by "enough" I mean "too much", just to clarify (except when concerning Opiates, as there will never be enough of that flavor of narcotic as far as I'm concerned).
 
I'm more of a functional amphetamine user than a recreational amphetamine user. The main two drugs I use recreationally are weed and tianeptine. That being said, a few signs it is time to stop being on amps...

-Stimulant psychosis/paranoia/dysphoria, specifically increasing visual hallucinations. Antipsychotics ward this off well when it starts, but it is a sign that I need to think about getting sleep ASAP
-Bruxism. Some sugar free gum really helps, but another sign I've been at it too long
-Hypoglycemia. I've recently taken to isomaltulose to help combat this when appetite suppression is too great to keep food down, but yet another sign it is time to call it a night/day
-Microsleeps (nodding off and jolting awake). Modafinil is particularly good at combatting these, but when I'm up long enough to start getting them anyway it is really time to question whether my productivity over the next 24 hours is going to be increased by sleeping away 8 of them first

Overall I've found relying more heavily on (ar)modafinil for being up 16-20h, and only adding in amphetamines for serious study sessions and being up 20+h has served me well. So has daily selegiline, but please don't stims+selegiline if you don't know exactly what you are doing. I'm probably one of the few people who has gotten markedly healthier and more productive after starting low dose meth, but it's definitely not from meth alone. I used to go through nearly a case of monster every night just to get through my homework and constantly feel like shit, now I've got an amazing amount of free time and get a restful 6 hours of sleep most nights.
 
1) When i just fall asleep like a baby (some weird paradoxal adverse reaction sometimes) I can litteraly snort about half a gram in 3 hours and fall perfectly asleep. Still got that 'fucked up' feeling when i wake up afterwards.. Any idea somebody? some kind of logical explanation ? I've been hearing lately from my doc that i might have some form of unknown not-labeled ADHD which in fact makes you panicky/anxious, hyper, unconcentrated, the feeling that u lose a little bit of yourself when you enter like a mall or something mainly because of the overwhelming crowd.. the last one is really hard to explain, but you can kinda compare it with having all your thought on a perfect row and one,two..poof and u feel like an absolute tard because u'r mind just got unplugged..

2)When I'm clinching that hard that my tongue gets uncontrollably stuck between my teeth which results in little cuts and afterwards major pain attacks whenever I drink something sparkling or eat something spicy.

3)When i just had f*cking enough, I unwillingly associate the stuff with something nasty and repugnant. Quite happy for that, makes it a hell of a lot easier to press brakes..

4)The fact that I'm a good sleeper,( I actually love sleep tbh.. ) makes me wonder what 's so thrilling about being up for 4 days.. I really really can't see the fun in that, or maybe i'm just not that into the major para combined with the most shitty bodyload i can imagine. The longest i did was 48 hours and for me that's the absolute maximum.. To fond on my bed i guess.. also I always notice a somewhat 'opiate' like effect in my legs when I'm in the comedown, that shit is uber funky. I love it, makes me relaxed as hell..

Cheers

Roofie

Oh jeez I hear ya on the 'sick of it' comment. I get to where I just want it to end. I can stop with plenty more left for another day.

And I know what you guys mean by the 'no high' anymore. I get to where I can just kinda taper off until sleep. No comedown or anything. I try not to over do it most of the time. I dont even get a high, I feel like I just like being awake....don't know if that makes much sense to anyone. But I'm not high most of the time. I feel kinda just awake for too long and I don't get what the thrill is either. Maybe the first hour is euphoric but after that it's just all like being extremely aware. Thinking about it now makes me wonder why I even do it....
 
I'm more of a functional amphetamine user than a recreational amphetamine user. The main two drugs I use recreationally are weed and tianeptine. That being said, a few signs it is time to stop being on amps...

-Stimulant psychosis/paranoia/dysphoria, specifically increasing visual hallucinations. Antipsychotics ward this off well when it starts, but it is a sign that I need to think about getting sleep ASAP
-Bruxism. Some sugar free gum really helps, but another sign I've been at it too long
-Hypoglycemia. I've recently taken to isomaltulose to help combat this when appetite suppression is too great to keep food down, but yet another sign it is time to call it a night/day
-Microsleeps (nodding off and jolting awake). Modafinil is particularly good at combatting these, but when I'm up long enough to start getting them anyway it is really time to question whether my productivity over the next 24 hours is going to be increased by sleeping away 8 of them first

Overall I've found relying more heavily on (ar)modafinil for being up 16-20h, and only adding in amphetamines for serious study sessions and being up 20+h has served me well. So has daily selegiline, but please don't stims+selegiline if you don't know exactly what you are doing. I'm probably one of the few people who has gotten markedly healthier and more productive after starting low dose meth, but it's definitely not from meth alone. I used to go through nearly a case of monster every night just to get through my homework and constantly feel like shit, now I've got an amazing amount of free time and get a restful 6 hours of sleep most nights.

I'm going to have to look that up. More out of curiosity than for actually taking it into action. This site has informed me about so many things I never even knew about.
 
I stop taking more opiates if I'm puking

I stop drinking if I'm puking

I stop smoking DMT when I can't see the bong anymore

I stop smoking weed when I run out

those are my lines.
 
Amphetamine binges, usually after 3 nights w/o sleep I feel so shitty I want to stop the binge and pop some downers. The contrast the downers give at that point is amazing, a high in itsself. =D

Sometimes I go longer, just depends on how I feel. Usually it's the sleep deprivation that "forces" me to take a break.

Stayin up for a few days on meth then adding some heroin is SO euphoric. Something about the way it makes the comedown not even feel like a comedown, just a relaxed high but still have faint stimulant effects in your mind despite body being exhausted.

Like Roofie I also get to the point where I will dose and just fall asleep because my body cant handle it any longer. Take the most deep intenae few hours of sleep, like a quick battery recharge, would wake up and go at it again refreshed as ever. After aevral weeks this would catch up to me and id spend a few days sleeping. Thank god those days are past me.
 
I am beginning to think that with weed, any is too much, however I only have a few experiences with it, which is odd considering my seasoned history with many other drugs. I've never smoked weed by myself, and I think if I was by myself and in a good and positive headspace, I would very much enjoy. I definitely can appreciate its potential to bring forth massive creativity and allow for unique perspectives on the mundane of life, despite a couple very anxious and excited experiences. It has felt much more intoxicating than almost any other drug I've done, and with a very stimulating edge, making it a frightening one for me in public settings. But again, I really do think it could be of great personal potential for me.

With booze, it is too much when the warm and slightly tingly stomach becomes quite suddenly nauseated and intent on vomiting.

With amphetamines, though I've never done the stay-up-all-night binges for days at a time, I know I've had too much when I begin feeling transient paranoia, experiencing bruxism, feeling as if I could do anything yet being very beat and very tired, feeling too hot, often to wake up after crashing in heavy sweat with the most panic-like dysphoria, and headache. (I take tramadol daily, too, and at none too modest doses, so even a moderate dose can seem to incur certain very uncomfortable effects.)

With the GABAergic sedative-hypnotics, including benzo's, of course, I never seem to feel as if there are any lines, BUT I am quite tolerant to their effects considering fairly thick dependence. And with opiates, I've never even become truly nauseated - I tolerate them quite well without really any undesirable effects often described from others; the first time with hydrocodone, ever, I got a bit too hot and got kind of a headache-feeling, but other than that, nothing bad, even at relatively higher doses.

And, with nicotine, I know I've had enough if I don't want a cigarette or if I want to stop smoking the one in hand.
 
I know I've had enough crystal when I can't shut the fuck up and I know nobody cares what I have to say anyways, and every one else is just talking to hear their voices the same as me. I hate being that annoying twacked out guy. Much rather be the quiet guy noddin out in the back.
 
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There's no such thing as too much.
lol..

no, but really.. I know I've crossed the line once I start spewing my guts out.
 
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