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When is it OK for a man to hit a woman?

Thanatos said:
If you are any sort of man at all, you should be able to grab a woman by the wrist, force her to sit down and then verbally diffuse the situation.
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Yeah, well it would be nice if any possible situation to arise were that easy and you could both just sit down over a cup of tea and talk your differences out. But unfortunately this is the real world. And what's with the same sex hatred in this thread? "If you're any sort of man" "Only a girly man hits a woman", blah blah blah. If you have to emasculate others for having a different opinion it just makes it look like you're bragging. What are you gonna say if she's armed and you're armed and she pulls a gun on you? Are you just gonna stand there like an idiot and get shot to prove how manly you are or defend yourself? Women are usually a bit physically weaker than guys but to think that there's not any women out there that could potentially do a lot of damage to a guy is just ridiculous and sexist honestly.
 
It's not sexist by any means to think that any woman could deal with my strength, resolve in combat, and pain threshold.
Dude I've been cut in street fights, I'm not going to die from some glancing blows. I can eat punches from grown men that are my size, unless there is a woman of equal muscle mass and stature out there I think I'll stick to basic disarming techniques and pinning/immobilization until the authorities can handle the situation.

You're a pussy if you beat on a woman, they break easily compared to men. Just sit that lioness down forcefully and tell her unequivocally that she has no chance I continuing her behavior.
 
Thanatos said:
It's not sexist by any means to think that any woman could deal with my strength, resolve in combat, and pain threshold.
Dude I've been cut in street fights, I'm not going to die from some glancing blows. I can eat punches from grown men that are my size
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Congratulations, what do you want an award?

Thanatos said:
You're a pussy if you beat on a woman, they break easily compared to men.
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You seriously sound like the biggest white knight in this entire thread, plus by your own admission you're hardly a good representation of your average person. But please tell me where exactly I advocated beating women. One punch to get a psycho bitch that's trying to fuck your shit up does not equal beating.

And this...

nuttynutskin said:
If you have to emasculate others for having a different opinion it just makes it look like you're bragging.
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What I'm saying is one punch from a reasonably well built man could cause some pretty serious trauma to a woman. It doesnt take an athletic or combat trained individual to inflict potentially fatal trauma. One fluke shot can cause brain damage, strokes, irreversable maxillofacial injury, trigmineal neuralgia etc. Youre a piece of shit if you beg to differ. Im no white knight, I would just neutralize the threat in order to avoid guilt, litigation, and causing serious injury.

Duke it out in the courts if you've got a problem, learn how I be a civilized man.
 
nuttynutskin said:
congratulations, what do you want an award?



You seriously sound like the biggest white knight in this entire thread, plus by your own admission you're hardly a good representation of your average person. But please tell me where exactly i advocated beating women. One punch to get a psycho bitch that's trying to fuck your shit up does not equal beating.

And this...
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qft lulz n all
 
Thanatos said:
What I'm saying is one punch from a reasonably well built man could cause some pretty serious trauma to a woman.
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If you bothered reading the whole thread you would see that I acknowledged that, but I also think it's fair that force could be met with equal force more or less.

Thanatos said:
It doesnt take an athletic or combat trained individual to inflict potentially fatal trauma. One fluke shot can cause brain damage, strokes, irreversable maxillofacial injury, trigmineal neuralgia etc.
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So a well built woman could inflict the same kind of damage on a guy then, but somehow it's only fair that the guy gets hit on? I guess an easy solution would be that if a woman (or anyone else) doesn't want to face those risks she could always not violently attack another person. :\

Thanatos said:
You're a piece of shit if you beg to differ. Im no white knight, I would just neutralize the threat in order to avoid guilt, litigation, and causing serious injury.
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Cool, I'm a pussy and a piece of shit. At least I'm not an idiot blinded by some imaginary rule that a guy can never hit a woman under any circumstances tho.

Thanatos said:
Duke it out in the courts if you've got a problem, learn how I be a civilized man.
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Huh?
 
I can't make you realize your faults.
The easiest way to break it down is that woman, regardless of muscle mass are more prone to orthopedic injury. Females don't have the biological advantage of stronger neck/shoulder muscles, jaw anchoring connective tissue and a robust brow and jaw. All of those factors heavily sway the likelihood of recieving potentially fatal head trauma in favor of females.

Once you forcefully sit your crazy female attacker down and call the police you take the case to court instead of reducing yourself to a primitive heathen that doesn't believe in societal norms concerning violence and domestic abuse. I'm severely confused about why you can't seem to understand that what you are proposing is unethical and illegal.
 
Thanatos said:
I can't make you realize your faults.
The easiest way to break it down is that woman, regardless of muscle mass are more prone to orthopedic injury. Females don't have the biological advantage of stronger neck/shoulder muscles, jaw anchoring connective tissue and a robust brow and jaw. All of those factors heavily sway the likelihood of recieving potentially fatal head trauma in favor of females.

Once you forcefully sit your crazy female attacker down and call the police you take the case to court instead of reducing yourself to a primitive heathen that doesn't believe in societal norms concerning violence and domestic abuse. I'm severely confused about why you can't seem to understand that what you are proposing is unethical and illegal.
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Be careful with this. All the Generation Z kids on this forum are going to accuse you of being a sexist and give you a 30 minute speech on their theory explaining why you are a sexist.

It would be like me saying blacks make better NFL corner-backs than whites. The "Z" kids would be furious, call me a racist, and give me a 30 minute speech on their theory explaining why I'm a racist. They'll for one say that I used the word black instead of African American, and that I stereotyped.

The "Z" kids are hipper sensitive, and they believe you are a sexist if you still abide by the old traditional ways of a man not striking a woman. Their reasoning would be that you are placing men above women, and both men & women... Excuse me, women & men are physically equal, and their fore its always an even match. So, if you say that you won't punch a woman (assuming that you are physically stronger), you are a sexist.


I know man... You don't even have to say anything.. I already know
 
Thanatos said:
I can't make you realize your faults.
The easiest way to break it down is that woman, regardless of muscle mass are more prone to orthopedic injury. Females don't have the biological advantage of stronger neck/shoulder muscles, jaw anchoring connective tissue and a robust brow and jaw. All of those factors heavily sway the likelihood of recieving potentially fatal head trauma in favor of females.
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Jesus you're obsessed... Seriously robust brow and jaw? I've seen plenty of guys with a weak jawline and what could be considered feminine features. Either way I'm unconvinced that women in general are at a highly greater risk than your average male of receiving a fatal blow. And keep in mind no where have I said in this entire thread to hit a female attacker as hard as you could. I merely said meet force with equal force. I think that joint manipulation could easily do just as much damage as a well placed blow. If I had the chance between taking a punch or having my shoulder ripped to fuck I would take the punch.

Thanatos said:
Once you forcefully sit your crazy female attacker down and call the police you take the case to court instead of reducing yourself to a primitive heathen that doesn't believe in societal norms concerning violence and domestic abuse.
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Right, because you can just sit someone down and have a nice chat with someone who's attacking you and possibly psychotic and/or strung out on drugs.

Thanatos said:
I'm severely confused about why you can't seem to understand that what you are proposing is unethical and illegal.
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Bullshit about being illegal. It's legal to defend yourself against anyone, male or female. Someone else already touched on that. Whether you think it's unethical or not would not have any sway in a court of law.

little BIG Pecker said:
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How are you even still here? Seriously...
 
nuttynutskin said:
Yeah, well it would be nice if any possible situation to arise were that easy and you could both just sit down over a cup of tea and talk your differences out. But unfortunately this is the real world.
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As opposed to some video game where you're a super martial arts master who can get in a knife fight and be completely confident of their survival.

And what's with the same sex hatred in this thread? "If you're any sort of man" "Only a girly man hits a woman", blah blah blah. If you have to emasculate others for having a different opinion it just makes it look like you're bragging. What are you gonna say if she's armed and you're armed and she pulls a gun on you? Are you just gonna stand there like an idiot and get shot to prove how manly you are or defend yourself? Women are usually a bit physically weaker than guys but to think that there's not any women out there that could potentially do a lot of damage to a guy is just ridiculous and sexist honestly.
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The rigid male gender roles are useful because they let them judge other people and feel superior to them. Throw in some misaimed, righteous anger, and you have someone who's sexist against themself! They know their place, so to speak. A similar process occurs in woman who slut-shame each other.

I need to take a break from this thread. It isn't good for my blood pressure.
 
HCL said:
As opposed to some video game where you're a super martial arts master who can get in a knife fight and be completely confident of their survival.

The rigid male gender roles are useful because they let them judge other people and feel superior to them. Throw in some misaimed, righteous anger, and you have someone who's sexist against themself! They know their place, so to speak. A similar process occurs in woman who slut-shame each other.

I need to take a break from this thread. It isn't good for my blood pressure.
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I've already mentioned earlier in the thread that I would scope down to the level of fighting or using force only if the woman had a weapon. If she did not have a weapon and only took a swing at me, I would either do or do a combination of:

A. Block the punch
B. Grab her wrist
C. Grapple
D. Not punch her in the face


I just believe if your a man; and you were to punch a woman because she took a swing at you, you are either a:

A. Douche-bag
B. Woman Beater
C. Asshole
D. Girly-man

It's just my opinion. I'm sorry if I offended anyone. That is just my beliefs.
 
Treat men and women exactly the same. So the answer is only in self-defense and if hitting is a proportionate response to the threat.
 
Pecker said:
Be careful with this. All the Generation Z kids on this forum are going to accuse you of being a sexist and give you a 30 minute speech on their theory explaining why you are a sexist.

It would be like me saying blacks make better NFL corner-backs than whites. The "Z" kids would be furious, call me a racist, and give me a 30 minute speech on their theory explaining why I'm a racist. They'll for one say that I used the word black instead of African American, and that I stereotyped.

The "Z" kids are hipper sensitive, and they believe you are a sexist if you still abide by the old traditional ways of a man not striking a woman. Their reasoning would be that you are placing men above women, and both men & women... Excuse me, women & men are physically equal, and their fore its always an even match. So, if you say that you won't punch a woman (assuming that you are physically stronger), you are a sexist.
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Look, I know that debating matters with actual, existent individuals can be challenging, but you don't need to be quite this detailed when having imaginary arguments with straw-men. ;)

ebola
 
Very simply put, expecting special treatment or a 'pass' on basic social and civil expectations for something like your gender as if it were some kind of physical disability is basically saying to the general public "please understand that I may act like an animal from time to time". We're all human, and we're all in this together, no one should be hurting anyone else, period. You hit, you get hit back, this should be basic instinct that keeps us all from beating each other senseless over petty crap. If you're a small, petite girl, perhaps you should be twice as aware of the fact that if you get hit, especially by a bigger man, it's going to hurt you a lot more than the average person, so maybe you should keep your hands to yourself just to be on the safe side....you know....like the rest of us civil, co-existent human beings. But no, most younger people don't think that way these days. It's this self-centered raised-on-the-internet generation, everyone is so used to being nice and safe behind a computer monitor, saying and doing WHATEVER THE FUCK THEY WANT to who ever, where ever, when ever they fucking want, thinking "I'll just sue them", pushing boundaries to see what can be gotten away with.

Once you assault another person, a man or a woman, you forfeit any "lady rights" you may have thought you had.
 
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