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When does drug use actually improve quality of life

Addyman

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I realized when I use drugs I can actually talk to people, pay attention, do my homework, etc.
(control anxiety and attention problems)

I believe my light to moderate drug use actually has more positives than negatives.
-I do realize later in my life I could become a more heavy stimulant abuser and have drug use that negatively impacts my life.... But right now I see more benefits

Who can say the same and provide evidence as to why the positives outweigh negatives

I'm in no way encouraging drug use
 
Doctors prescribe medicine because they believe that the good effects from the drug outweigh the negative side effects of the drug.

As far as illicit drug use goes, I think that everyone feels that drugs improve their quality of life when they first start taking them. It takes years before many notice that they are doing more harm than good. From age 14-20 I felt like the good outweighed the bad, but now I feel the opposite.

I'm gonna try this in Drug Culture. There may be similar threads there to merge it into, if not we will see where it goes on its own.

Homeless --> DC
 
MikeOekiM said:
In my opinion just the beginning. Most times it always ends bad
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Well, I used occasionally in 2010 (11 20mg Adderalls in total)

Prescription only February 2011 to May 2011 (Focalin prescribed; Adderall prescribed; a high dose before a date, which was occasionally

Moderately in June 2011 to July 2011 (Benzodiazepines for anti-anxiety, occasional percocets, rarely ambien)

Ocassionally from August to September (Tried Clonazepam and Eszopiclone only 2-3 times each for anti-anxiety... Tried Methylphenidate. because sometimes my mom would forget to give me my Adderall in the morning so I had a backup for school... I take my grades seriously...)

Occasionally in October 2011 (Prescribed Adderall, abused ONCE, have to finish the rest of my 18 somas within 7 days at the moment, I'm flying back home in 7 days and I'm not risking a drug trafficking charge by flying them back home.)

KEEP IN MIND, I never once used ANY of these drugs daily, Adderall is for weekdays when used therapeutically
ALSO, I now only use non-prescribed drugs in situations where I'm going to be under a lot of stress... A plane ride... A date... Doing something in front of people, such as a speech ONLY BECAUSE my voice will actually change when all eyes are on me...

I say since starting drugs in February 2010, I handle myself well
 
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Nobody really starts off using daily. It usually takes years to get to that point. You have been using for less than 2 years. It took me about 5 years before it got out of hand.

You seem to be trying to justify your use.

you said:
Occasionally in October 2011 (Prescribed Adderall, abused ONCE, have to finish the rest of my 18 somas within 7 days at the moment, I'm flying back home in 7 days and I'm not risking a drug trafficking charge by flying them back home.)
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You can easily throw them out. Justification of drug use is one of the steps that leads to addiction. It's not good if you list one of the reasons of your drugs use as "so I can talk to people."

If you have to start a thread and make long posts about using drugs responsibly, then deep down you must feel differently. After each drug and time frame in your post, you wrote down how/why you needed to take them. Again, you are trying to justify your use with words/terms like "Occasionally, ONCE, KEEP in MIND, Only Because....." There are warning signs all over.

As time goes on, that list expands until it turns into "I have to take this drug to get out of bed and not feel bad."
 
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Tommyboy said:
Nobody really starts off using daily. It usually takes years to get to that point. You have been using for less than 2 years. It took me about 5 years before it got out of hand.
You seem to be trying to justify your use.
You can easily throw them out. Justification of drug use is one of the steps that leads to addiction. It's not good if you list one of the reasons of your drugs use as "so I can talk to people."

If you have to start a thread and make long posts about using drugs responsibly, then deep down you must feel differently. After each drug and time frame in your post, you wrote down how/why you needed to take them. Again, you are trying to justify your use with words/terms like "Occasionally, ONCE, KEEP in MIND, Only Because....." There are warning signs all over.

As time goes on, that list expands until it turns into "I have to take this drug to get out of bed and not feel bad."
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Yes, I justify the use at the moment. I know this. I tell addicts all the time they rationalize their use.
I wouldn't smuggle it during a 2 hour drive, a 6 hour flight, and another 2 hour drive just to throw them out, though.

If it were up to me I would have left them at home and sold them when I came back... But lately my mom has been raiding my room whenever I'm gone... She would send me to a mentak hospital again if she found a singke pill

I have no source for the somas either, it was my aunt's who never took a single one and they expire soon.

Eh, it helps relieve my excruciating tailbone pain, though (legitimate medical condition but I don't get to see a doc til I get back, then I probably have to wait a few weeks.)

I might as well use them since I'm only going to have these somas once and I went through so much trouble to keep them

I would have considered bringing them back and selling them, but airports have an X-RAY LINE NOW!? and metal detector line.... 50/50 chance the TSA agent would make me go into the X-ray line and I'm fucked and in juvenile hall. Possibly banned from air travel.
 
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I meant that you could throw them away now, before the plane ride and everything. You can walk over to the garbage now, and throw them away.

So you justify your use "at the moment." At what moment do you stop justifying it? You tell addicts all the time that they justify their use? It looks like you may be addicted before you even know it. You have been sent to the mental hospital already, and continue to use drugs, knowing what the consequences will be if your mother catches you again.
 
Addyman said:
Well, I used occasionally in 2010 (11 20mg Adderalls in total)

Prescription only February 2011 to May 2011 (Focalin prescribed; Adderall prescribed; a high dose before a date, which was occasionally

Moderately in June 2011 to July 2011 (Benzodiazepines for anti-anxiety, occasional percocets, rarely ambien)

Ocassionally from August to September (Tried Clonazepam and Eszopiclone only 2-3 times each for anti-anxiety... Tried Methylphenidate. because sometimes my mom would forget to give me my Adderall in the morning so I had a backup for school... I take my grades seriously...)

Occasionally in October 2011 (Prescribed Adderall, abused ONCE, have to finish the rest of my 18 somas within 7 days at the moment, I'm flying back home in 7 days and I'm not risking a drug trafficking charge by flying them back home.)

KEEP IN MIND, I never once used ANY of these drugs daily, Adderall is for weekdays when used therapeutically
ALSO, I now only use non-prescribed drugs in situations where I'm going to be under a lot of stress... A plane ride... A date... Doing something in front of people, such as a speech ONLY BECAUSE my voice will actually change when all eyes are on me...

I say since starting drugs in February 2010, I handle myself well
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It aint the end yet brutha lol

jk good job so far hopefully you can continue doing well
 
Tommyboy said:
I meant that you could throw them away now, before the plane ride and everything.
You can walk over to the garbage now, and throw them away. So you justify your use "at the moment." At what moment do you stop justifying it? You tell addicts all the time that they justify their use? It looks like you may be addicted before you even know it. You have been sent to the
mental hospital already, and continue to use drugs, knowing what the consequences will be if your mother catches you again.
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I don't mean to argue or anything, but you can't see a little moe eye-to-eye with me here?
Despite the fact I'm in a new place why throw them away :/

I never said my goal was to stop.

I just think my drug use is more beneficial than negative.

You know it is weird how...
Normal me people say I don't have a conscience
Me on GABA agonists (soma) I'm such a sweeeeet guy
Me on stimulants, I either fit the description for a psychopath (no exaggereations) OR in high doses I'm such a sweeet guy
 
Addyman said:
I don't mean to argue or anything, but you can't see a little moe eye-to-eye with me here?
Despite the fact I'm in a new place why throw them away :/
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I am seeing eye-to-eye since I was in somewhat of a similar situation recently. About a month ago I was given a handful of soma. I wasn't at home at the time, and the idea of getting caught and going to jail for soma possession sounded so bad that I threw them away. It's not worth it. I was 10 minutes from my house so the chances of getting caught driving home were very slim, but it's still not worth it IMO.
 
... You've been using for less than two years .
and its all been in fairly light doses .

I'd give it a year or two before you change your mind .

For MOST people side effects of stimulant drugs will kick in . Examples being tolerance , anger problems,etc


Even you must find it hard to agree that something that gives you such awesome effects has no down side


Plus ... You only have so much dopamine
 
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Tommyboy said:
I am seeing eye-to-eye since I was in somewhat of a similar situation recently. About a month ago I was given a handful of soma. I wasn't at home at the time, and the idea of getting caught and going to jail for soma possession sounded so bad that I threw them away. It's not worth it. I was 10 minutes from my house so the chances of getting caught driving home were very slim, but it's still not worth it IMO.
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Well that might have been a bit different, then.
I'm staying at a relative's house for 8 days (well technically 7 days, now.)
They aren't going to go through my luggage

Here's a timeline, if you want to see it...
t+0:00 4 Somas (1400mg)
t+9:00 2 Somas (700mg)
t+12:00 2 Somas (700mg)
t+21:30 4 Somas (1400mg)
t+27:00 4 Somas (1400mg)

Tuesday - 12am - 4 Somas (1400mg)
Tuesday - 9am - 2 Somas (700mg)
Tuesday - 12pm - 2 Somas (700mg)
--Time zone went from -8:00 to -5:00--
Wednesday - 12:30am - 4 Somas (1400mg)
Wednesday - 12:30am - 80mg Adderall XR
Wednesday - 6am - 4 Somast (1400mg) Soma

I've got 10 left to use (3500mg), I'll save those for social situations, or sleep then I save 4 for the flight (1400mg)

I realize I'm taking heavy amounts of Soma lol... I should look up Somas toxicity
If only I wasn't so tolerant to benzodiazepines
 
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Drug use becomes a problem when your life is dedicated to drugs.

When every thought: Drugs
Every conversation: Drugs
Going to a party: Are their drugs there?

This goes for alcohol as well. When you have to get out of the bed, and have a drink in order to keep from having horrible anxiety the whole day. Or take and adderall, to maintain cognitive function and maintain motivation.

I only see a dozen drugs that legitimately benefit society in a positive way. I will not name them, because in drug culture people run on the idea, "If I've done it before, it's a good drug"

My own father, a conservative, describes how attivan changed his life and is "a good drug" yet he turns around and bashes Xanax and Valium, without any knowledge that they are from the same family, and probably wouldn't even recognize the difference between the three.

(While I do not, however, support the criminalization laws.)
Drug criminalization laws are not all bullshit. They exist, because for the most part our populace runs on instinct rather than logic. Is it logical to become an amphetamine abuser or heroin addict? In the short term these things are incredibly pleasurable, but in the end the pleasure you feel today will equal the pain of tomorrow.
 
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this can't gonna be done. how can you say this can improve the life. drugs is the way to reduce to your life. some things are beneficial in drugs but not at all. it has some special thing which we can use in medicin.
 
joyee said:
this can't gonna be done. how can you say this can improve the life. drugs is the way to reduce to your life. some things are beneficial in drugs but not at all. it has some special thing which we can use in medicin.
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Drugs give our bodies the ability to reach states of extremes that we could never achieve naturally. Drugs can be used to help concentration, relaxation and motivation. To say they have no use and cannot be used to promote a healthy lifestyle is shallow minded.
 
when you can control and use in a moderate fashion. some people don't realize how valuable sobriety is until they have gone too far...
 
It's like that in the beginning and then flips around the other way.

I mean do a poll of long-term users and addicts and ask "Do you think your drug addiction has improved your life over the long term?" and about 0% are going to say yes.
 
i feel like a dummy on here recently,, i think its because we dont hear about alot of these thigs in the uk,

what is soma tho (sorry lol)

thanks
 
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