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Heroin when do you know when to smoke more?

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i picked up my first balloon today. its tar. the girl said it was pretty good and she's a believable source. my opiate tolerance is pretty damn low. bout 20mg oxy has me lightly nodding.

so anyway ive been chasing the dragon on this bitch and im pretty disappointed. obviously my technique is horrible. but i smoke it, hold it in a good 20seconds. i get a rush and my face gets that hotness but it seems to go away after just a minute. as a newbie i am being very careful of not OD'ing (i know its pretty hard to smoking, but better safe than sorry)

as the title asks: how long do i know that the dope has totally set in with its effects and its safe to smoke more?
 
You will be nodding out when you don't need more, it kicks in almost instantly so you can wait 5 minutes inbetween hits. You should smoke until you have the desired effect. You need to get your smoking technique down and it should work better.
 
shit my technique was so bad i smoked a whole balloon and didnt nod. by the last few hits i was getting the hang of it

anticlimactic as fuck. ive had better times with hydrocodone....
 
damn that sucks. are you sure it was real stuff? if you don't have a tolerance, smoking even with poor technique would be pretty simple to get high. i'm guessing you either got some weak tar or have some really poor technique. care to elaborate on your technique so we can give you some tips?
 
Yeah I would imagine you could have gotten some really weak dope.. I am kinda doubting that your technique could be so bad that you wouldn't have gotten bombed off a balloon, especially with your low tolerance. And as far as your reliable source, coming from a former one myself, I would never believe a junky haha.
 
If you're getting tar in Minnesota, it traveled quite a ways potentially introducing more levels from production to street-level dealer where it could have been further adulterated. I'm really not judging here, but regardless of how good of a friend you have, if someone is a dealer or a junkie you should never take what they say at face value (especially regarding the quality of drugs you're receiving).

Did you personally weigh it and test its potency? If not, then its really hard to determine if what you thought was a potent balloon (assuming roughly 100mg) might have been far from it.

Regarding your original question, smoking produces the fastest onset of any route of administration. It hits your brain in a matter of seconds... this is both why people enjoy this route AND why it makes it near impossible to OD. Few people (if anyone) have both the lung capacity and potent enough dope to risk their lives in a single inhalation and it hits quickly enough that if you're good, you probably won't even be able to continue hitting it to the point of endangering yourself.

If you're confident its not the potency or quantity and your technique is THAT bad, you could always try waterlining or plugging... if you're interested, these subjects have been discussed quite a bit around here.

Regarding what is precisely causing your lack of effects, all we can do is speculate. It could be potency, quantity, technique or other factors and since all we can is speculate about that, I'm going to close this.

OP if you (or anyone else) think should be reopened, just drop me a line via PM and let me know why.
 
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