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Whats with the aggression?

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josh_nexus

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To set the scene:
Yesterday night, having just whatched the Mardi Gras, I was walking towards Town Hall station along park street (this is in Sydney). There was just myself and my cousin as all of the other members of our group had got a lift home. When we got outside wooloworths on the corner a little kid (about 13-14) started doing the "what you looking at routine" to my cousin. We looked away and started walking really fast away and then the little prick kicked me in the stomach. When I went down all his big mates converged on me and my cousin and started punching. Not that it really matters but they were all dark in complection (I will refrain from trying to guess their nationality because I dont think the nationality matter). Anyway I jumped up swinging randomly and then bolted towards the station. when I got around the corner another one of them was waiting for me and he king hit me and broke my nose. One of the ones chasing us then hit My cousin in the head with a bottle. This happened about 10m from the Town Hall police station. I ran down into town hall station for a few minutes and then went up to the police station and gave a report.
There would have been 15 of them against 2 of us and as far as I could attain they didnt want to rob us. So what I want to know is why? It cant be to prove how tough they were cause there were 15 of them verse 2 of us. They didnt seem to want money. There was just no reason apart from the fact that they were drunk and they like beating innocent people up.
Unlike them I dont want to beat the crap out of somebody I just want to know why anybody would do this?
I want to know if you have been in similar situation and what you think can be done to stop people acting like this?
Im sorry if this is abit rantish but I'm still pissed off about the nose brace I am wearing at the moment.
[ 03 March 2002: Message edited by: josh_nexus ]
 
Josh that sux!! :(
Was your mate male?? they might of just been out looking for fags (mind my language) being Mardi Gras nite and all to beat the shit out of and you two just happend to be passing at the wrong time
:(
 
Yeah thats what I thought.... but there are so many people who look much more "gay" (assuming they were looking for basic steriotypes) than we did.
 
This shit has happened to me.
Once from a bunch of hoons in a car looking for people to beat up. And another trio tried to mug me. Always in cowardly scales outrageously in their favour.
I don't know why it happens. I fucking HATE it. Although I am going to guess its a mix of psychological and social. They way they are brought up (both domestically and publically), the relationships they have with people, the values they grasp, the way they see life.
f.
 
fortunately this has never happened to me, but being around alot of asians alot of the time I see the 'asian gangsta' acts much more, much like normal bogan activities only they have bigger groups and never actually fight.
bad luck dude :(
 
has happened to me before...at a friends party..just a small party...20 or so ppl..
group of 30 guys drinking, yelling ETC walked in...i happened to be chilling and sitting down on the couch in the lounge room..they obviously didn't like the way i was ETC (me wearing all black prob had something to do with it) and proceded to put me in a corner and 6 of them hit me while the others blocked all door ways...once (my) blood was spilt..they backed away...and the parents of the house came in ETC.
3 years down the track...i sometimes see them when i go out..can sit down with them and have a (half) civilised chat, have a beer..
they were obviously just immuture (sp?) and, like your story, looking for a fight for no real reason.
you did all the things u should have done..ignored them, walked away..looks like they prob just had it in for you or something..
sorry it happened dude..hope all is well.
aNt
 
It baffles me why people behave the way the do sometimes...
This has happened to me also.
When I was about 15-16 my mates and I went to a footy club sorta dealy and someone split booze on my friends shirt, so he took it off. Some guy called him a "poofter" and told him to put it back on. My friend went into the toilet, rinsed off his shirt and put it back on. When we left, the guy who called him a "poofter' and about 10 of his mates followed us out, there were 3 of us with our girlfriends. So they proceeded to beat the shit out of us. We told the girls to run and they reluctantly proceeded to do so. The beatings ended when my friend got his skull broken by one of their kicks to the head, and he has major facial scarring to this day. I got my nose broken and had a swelled head for about 3 weeks. I and my other friend spent about a week in hospital but the guy with the broken skull was hospitalised for about 2 months.
I thought we were going to die that night, as did my friends. But the Police never found out who these guys were.
Anyway that's my story, and I have sympathy for you. Sometimes people just suck.
Peace,
F...
 
^^^ guys this fucking sucks!
I have friends who have friends that do that kinda shit, but thats what I get for having friends that live in Blacktown, Lalor Park, Arncliffe and Bnakstown (Sydney). I refuse to go out with them cause they always get kicked out of everywhere.
They dont usually have a reason either, they are just sad, stupid mother fuckers.
 
Using the term "fag" is disrespectful?! U gotta be fuckin kidding. Most of my gay friends use it about themselves. A word is a word is a word. The INTENT is the problem- if u mean it in a derogatory sense, "fag", "gay", "homosexual", "queer" and all the rest are disrespectful. If not, let's not get drawn into a ridiculous political correctness argument.
 
not happy jan, big hug for ya josh :|
I had this almost happen to me. I was with 6 other mates in a park having a drink and a bit of a choof when we were besieged by 2 torres-straight islanders (as they told us, multiple times) looking for the time. After telling them the time 3 times, they started accusing us of being smartarses, and one of them pulled a knife and started threatening us. They were looking for a fight, but luckily we were all so shit scared, we just shut up and sat there, and eventually they went away. But it was the most scary expereance in my life, and now i wanna buy some mace! :
 
Originally posted by josh_nexus:
It cant be to prove how tough they were cause there were 15 of them verse 2 of us.
[ 03 March 2002: Message edited by: josh_nexus ]
you assume too much mate. Where random idiots like this are concerned the fact that they outnumber you 15 to 2 isnt relevent. They beat on you in some pathetic attempt to feel like "real men", to cover their own insecurities and to vent a little of their anger at something or other that inevitably has nothing to do with you.
These kinda people never go after someone who might actually present a challenge to them. After all, if they went for some one of equal size and strength one on one they might actually get hurt and maybe even lose the fight! Obviously they can't allow that to happen. They're after a power trip not a fair fight.
If it wasnt for this strange phenomona the geeky, nerdy, skinny kids of the world would never be bullied and only a group of 15 body builders would have had anything to fear from the guys who attacked you.
Unfortunately thats not the way it goes and its a worse world for it.
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I want to know if you have been in similar situation and what you think can be done to stop people acting like this?
I have got a solution but it involves violence but it's usualy the only only way. Josh since ur a shire person if u ever have this done to you again i'll get it fixed........but only if u want me to.
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*shakes head sadly*
I there isn't much you can do about this sort of thing... As Fireal said, its a result of many parts of their upbringing...
This is what I'm going to do about it... Learn some self defence so that if I get attacked I'll be able to defend myself and hopefully make those attackers wary of being such tools in the future...
Thankfully I don't live or work in an area where this kinda thing happens much, although sometimes when walking down Kings St to my car after work there are some people hanging around who set me on edge, ready to bolt if I'm acosted by them...
 
This is what you have to expect when you go into the city in Mardi Gras night. Its sucks but the is nothin yo can do.
Everytime i have been in to see the Mardi Gras i have ended up in the middle of a fight. Its the one night a year aside from New Years where every dickhead in Sydney decides to head into the city to start fights. They dont care who, they just want to fight, happened alot during the olympics as well.
This is why i never go into the city on any of these nights or for any big event. If you're part of a group of young males you can be assured you will get into a fight, or will have to avoid one. Either way its just not worth the hassle.
 
Prolbaly just looking for a fight.There were a couple of unscrupulous characters hanging around Darling Harbour (with baseball bats in their trousers) as well.
*laments the homeboy infestation of Sydney*
:( :X :( :X :(
 
To everybody who has been beaten that sux hard, only happened to me once where i was stoned out of my head and this smackie guy charged me into a wall and broke my watch. This made me real paranoid and i carried weapons everytime i was going into that area, but now i don't have to as i've been training my feet to be my weapons (TKD). I think in Melb, not sure about Sydney, being in a large group say 10-12 will actually get you out of more fights than get you in, although if you do have a fight it will be much worse. Let's face it there are many more individual or small groups of scumbags looking to mug you than homeboy gangs. I don't know where the majority of melbourne's homeboys have gone, maybe to Syd, but there just doesn't seem to be anywhere near as many as there was, although haven't been to Chaddie in awhile. Unfortunately the only way to deal with fights is to be prepared for them, train in martial arts, never let your guard down and if somebodies gonna hurt you, you make sure you hurt them back at least twice as hard.
 
Josh, don't worry bro, I hate those fuckin petrol sniffing, metho drinking coons too. I have never been bashed up, but have heard about it. Those smelly chickenshit boungs can't pull a job or a root so they have to run around in packs and beat 1 or 2 people up.
peace
p.s. oh oeah, I hate those fat, greasy, hairy lebo's too.
 
Nexus,
Dude, that's terrible. I'm so sorry that it happened to you, and it sounds like it was going to happen to a few more people before the night was out.
I guess I'm pretty lucky, I live on Sydney's Northern Beaches, and there's not too much drunken beatery on a week-to-week basis. My girlfriend goes to Tafe in Bankstown 3 days a week, and I worry about her every single day, she's a little 5'2" thing walking around in a suburb renown for large groups of asshole males.
Remember always the three rules of self-defence:
1)Run like hell,
2)run like hell,
3)hit the other guy as hard as you can, THEN run like hell.
Peace.
 
First of all thanks for the sympathy you guys.... you have made me feel heaps better cause I really hate fighting and it fucking upsets me to have to do it. Luckly nothing all that bad came of it, cause I see cases on the news all the time where people are not nearly as lucky as we were.
Which brings me to item number two. Some of you have suggested fighting back, which I have to admit in some cases is the only way. The thing is though I hate fighting with a vengence and I just dont understand why anybody would want to fight.
And kanabus; dont worry man I had hundreds of my shire boy mates suggesting that we go on a rampage and just beat the shit out of everybody, but that isnt the way I want to do it. I just wish they would leave us the fuck alone.
Oh and wiretripper.... they are some of the best self defence rules I have ever heard.
[ 04 March 2002: Message edited by: josh_nexus ]
 
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