What's the standard dosage for pot?

[veRGe]

Yay Oregon!

 

[fastandbulbous]

Anybody feel that the US has a schizophrenic approach regarding 'medicinal cannabis'? 8)

 

[New]

^I wouldn't call it that...from what I gather, The Federal Government denies it has medical use, while the individual states that approved it for medical use has accepted the benefits...it's not so much schizophrenic as it is sort of a "civil war" between science and policy.

 

[peaked]

One of the reasons why vaporizers are better is because you aren't combusting the plant matter. By combusting, you lose a lot of THC which you can save by using other methods. I also don't really understand how you come to the conclusion that vaporizers use more plant matter.

Also, I have a vaporizer and only use on average 0.3 grams per packing. Each packing gives me 3 bags (regular turkey size bags) and it only takes me 1 bag to feel satisfied. My tolerance is also moderately high as I use daily.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the vaporizers CAN use more plant matter. Whether you choose to do this or not is another story. I don't doubt that a small amount of material will still work fine for most people. Ultimately I was extrapolating the experiences of myself and friends with the vape, assuming that most people used it in similar, over the top manner (like half an oz into the party bag of the "Volcano" between a few people). Obviously not everyone is going to use such extreme amounts but I merely wanted to point out that people can and do use up to an ounce a day.

I've never heard the claim that vapes produce a stronger effect given the same weight of plant matter. Maybe in the Volcano, but many of the cheaper units definitely do not produce all the vapor possible from the plant material, due to the uneven heating of it.

 

[clamjuice]

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the vaporizers CAN use more plant matter. Whether you choose to do this or not is another story. I don't doubt that a small amount of material will still work fine for most people. Ultimately I was extrapolating the experiences of myself and friends with the vape, assuming that most people used it in similar, over the top manner (like half an oz into the party bag of the "Volcano" between a few people). Obviously not everyone is going to use such extreme amounts but I merely wanted to point out that people can and do use up to an ounce a day.

I've never heard the claim that vapes produce a stronger effect given the same weight of plant matter. Maybe in the Volcano, but many of the cheaper units definitely do not produce all the vapor possible from the plant material, due to the uneven heating of it.

If you are using a half o for a few people you most definitely might be using it wrong. And vaporized weed is not harsh at all. You must have the temperature too high. I think almost everyone would agree that you arent doing something right, cause i can vape like.5 and be completely in space, whereas if i smoked it id just be leaving the atmosphere. Maybe you are getting bad weed man, not trying to insult you, but everything you have claimed about the vaporizer i have had the complete opposite experience.

 

[peaked]

If you are using a half o for a few people you most definitely might be using it wrong.

But thats really quite subjective isn't it? Its like saying that if a few people manage to drink a keg between them then they are using it wrong because someone else can get their desired effects from just one or two drinks. Me and my friends have always had a habit of pushing the limits of how much pot we can handle, and a vape allows us to consume vastly more at once than a bong. I should point out that I have an astronomically high tolerance.

And vaporized weed is not harsh at all. You must have the temperature too high.

I don't recall claiming that vapor was harsh.

Maybe you are getting bad weed man, not trying to insult you, but everything you have claimed about the vaporizer i have had the complete opposite experience.

I'll admit that the pot I generally smoke isn't what you'd consider "one hit shit", but its still of a respectable potency, and I can never feel satisfied off a single cone anyway, because I enjoy the act of smoking a few bongs. Given this, whenever I do have access to very high potency stuff I always end up smoking more than necessary , just because I need to have had a fair amount of smoke pass through my lungs before I can feel satisfied. This might be a contributing factor as to why I consider the vapor to be weaker.

Vapor just doesn't produce the same effects for me as compared to smoke. This study has a few interesting points that I'd like to quote:

There was a large variance in the percentage
of THC recovered in the three different vaporizer test runs, ranging
from 36% to 61%. This suggests that the efficiency of vaporization is
highly sensitive to variations in the sample and micro-conditions in its
environment.
These results compare favorably to the delivery efficiencies of marijuana
cigarettes as measured in other studies. THC efficiencies of 34%
to 61% were reported in studies of marijuana cigarettes smoked via a
smoking machine under varying conditions of puff duration and air
speed (Fehr and Kalant 1971).

Theoretically, the vaporizer might have been expected to realize a
higher THC delivery efficiency than combustion, since it should have
avoided loss of THC by pyrolysis. That this was not observed indicates
that there were other inefficiencies in the vaporization process. The
most likely explanation would seem to be incomplete vaporization, due
to lack of uniform thorough heating and ventilation of the sample.

Assuming this information is correct, it pretty much affirms what I already thought. That vapor isn't stronger than smoke. And for those curious, this was done using the "Volcano" vaporizer.

For CBN, there was no significant change under vaporization. In
contrast, the level of CBN was twice as high in all three combusted samples,
with little variance.

This suggests to me that those smoking it may receive different effects because of the greater amount of CBN. In addition to this, the study states (on page 11) that there are 111 identified compounds for the smoke, compared with 3 for the vapor. While not all of the compounds in smoke would effect the high, some of these surely would.

a few refractory
individuals say they prefer the savor of smoke or claim not to feel the
same impact from vapor.

And thats pretty much how I feel too.

This has really gone offtopic, so I pray no one else baits me into another lengthy post (In all honestly though I do appreciate it as it makes me question my own argument).

 

[clamjuice]

I misunderstood the post thinkng you were saying that the vapor was harsh, but you were referring to smoking, which im glad cause that would be weird if you thought burnt material was smoother than vaped material. lol

Yea i know its a highly subjective thing. I guess maybe i enjoy a more THC like high whereas you like the CBN lower feeling. I just find it hard myself to believe because personally i find the get sooo much higher with a vaporizer, and for substantially longer then smoking.

But i guess it all comes down to preference. Even the dosage, lol i figured i should link all those off topic posts into something haha.

 

[Flickme]

120g would be all anyone would need for 60 days i reckon.. thats like 4 ounces.. i wouldnt even smoke that much, i'de probs smoke 2 ounces for 60days.. but it depends on tolerance i guess

 

[donkeyPUNCH]

standard dose = "take hits as needed for whatever"

 

[SilverFeniks]

Yay Oregon!

hellz yeah!

i've run into a few people with cards here ... medical herb can definately be tasty stuff :D

60-day supply? an ounce will get me high.

 

[robatussin]

Not sure what kind of vaporizer you're using, but that's just flat-out incorrect. If you're using more than you did when smoking, you're not using it right.

I second this statement....you should need 1/2 the amount vaporized compared to smoking

 

[Kilgore]

does that shit even get you high bro?

I spread the oil out of one of those onto a cigarette and then let it absorb for ten minutes. Smoked it and got really high except it smelled like the worst shwag I've ever had in my entire life.

 

[Pimp Lazy]

4 1/2 lbs. in 60 days. Stop... hammertime! Break it down.

72 oz./60 days =1.2 oz a day

1.2x 28.4=34.08g per day

I personally feel this is a lot. Even on days when I smoke all day every couple 2 hours or so I don't use more than a couple grams. A gram or slightly more per day is common usage for me. That accounts for about 4 sessions with the Volcano.

Literally schizophrenic FaB, but they lack the glossolalia that makes schizos so much fun. Darn government shitting on our party.

PAX,
PL