What's the safest approach to avoid dependency

[Bman2]

So I'm 17 days clean off suboxone. I had a habit that lasted about 2 years, was taking about 4mg a day. I'm still feeling some mild physical w/d symptoms. I used to take kratom to help with mood/motivation, I would like to use it again maybe once a week. I know if I take it now(while still in w/d), it has a chance of setting me back a bit. I want to completely get over these physical withdrawals first so there's no chance of me getting knocked back by using kratom. I was thinking to wait until I feel ZERO physical symptoms and then give it a week from that day. What do you guys think? I know sub sticks around for a while. Is it possible I could still be in some sort of physical withdrawal without really knowing it? Would I be allowing myself enough time by doing what I proposed? I'm thinking I will be over the withdrawals within the next week then add another week onto that. So it will probably end up being a month clean off sub before I even touch kratom.

 

[klekip]

i would advise staying away from any opiate/opiod, if you have history of dependence, i would have to think that not even getting close to that type of high would be best, so you dont chance chasing something stronger than kratom, and getting back into the harder opiates

 

[Oxy_Ghost]

Yeah I'd stay away from any opiate/opioid. It's just gonna suck you back in. If you really wanna get high that bad than smoke weed or something. IMO, smoking weed is way more worth it it than opiates anyways

 

[.:Holy::Toast:.]

The only sure fire way to avoid dependence is not use, unfortunately.
If you start using again it won't be long before your once a week rule turns into a daily routine again

 

[TheRapperGoneBad]

Gotta agree with all the above postees

Steer clear of all opiates and like substances.
Oxy ghost recommendation of smoking weed instead was wise.

 

[neversickanymore]

I think that this attempt at use again will drop you right back into dependence. if you want to use occasionally then use once every ten days or more. Also you likely still have tons of extra opiate receptor still active from the time you used and spent on the subs. In order to get these to shut down so you really feal normal you will need to not stimulate them at all for six months or so. If you start to try and use now you may prevent these from ever shutting down or slow the process way down. This could hold you in the paws stage for a long time. If I were you I would take eight moths off and reassess the situation at that point. Best of luck.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

I'm gonna go against everyone else here & advise you to not pick up opiates again.


Oh, wait, lol .

 

[Bman2]

I'm hearing from a sub doctor that was an ex-addict for a long time(so i guess there's some credibility there? lol), that my receptors should be 'reset' in 2 months. I'm on day 27 clean and I think I'm just about 100% over the physical withdrawal, or close to it. Almost no chills, but I still have sensitivity to hot/cold. I'm not worried about drawing out the PAWS. I'm more focused on the crippling withdrawals. I can do things to keep my mind busy if my body can move. I know I mentioned kratom and I will probably do that in place of oxy on occasion, but I just want to use when my buddy has roxys, which is only like a couple times a month anyways. I will never have to run out looking for them. I'll just go to hang out once a week or so like usual. About every other time, he has them. I think in a month from now, I should be good. Maybe even a couple weeks. Again, not worried about PAWS. Not waiting 8 months, just not gonna happen lol. Will not take more than 30-40mg at once, and won't dose more than twice on the nights that I use. Some of the times, I will take kratom instead. I will definitely have a 7-14 day break between usage. As far as weed, yes I smoke non-stop dabs/bowls all day. It's helped me get to where I'm at with my sobriety from opiates and that's ultimately my drug of choice. I don't drink or really hang out with anyone on the weekends, so I'd like to indulge in a little opiate use every so often when my tolerance/receptors get back to a point where it's worth it.

 

[SteeleyJ]

find something else to occupy yourself..... opioids are very sinister in that they get a small whole in your defenses and tearing the whole wall back down so it's back to sq 1.