Did you know you were taking "the most powerful mushrooms on earth" before you took them tho? That's a pretty powerful placebo to be taking into a trip with you. I wonder if the guy had given you cubes and said "These are azurescens" you would have had the same experience.
what's the best psilocybin strain?
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Did you know you were taking "the most powerful mushrooms on earth" before you took them tho? That's a pretty powerful placebo to be taking into a trip with you. I wonder if the guy had given you cubes and said "These are azurescens" you would have had the same experience.
I've seen mushrooms grow on the body of a giant tree (is this mushroom type considered wood lover then?). It was on the lower body of the tree going towards the roots. Not sure what breed of shroom it was but it looked like it grew from the body of the tree itself, not the ground or soil. Anyway, I have the P.azurescen spore in syringe. I hope to grow this. Any advice? There are hardwood substrates out there for wood loving mushrooms. Can it be grown in one of those grow bags?
If the portion of the wood they grew on was dead, like perhaps bark or a piece on trunk, then yeah they would be woodlovers, but if they grew more like on the roots and forming a sort of symbiose then we're talking (ecto)mycorhizzal I think.
DoorsofPerception
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Actually no he didn't tell me the strain until after the trip and I had inquired...he did tell me that they were really good before I took them but what dealer/grower doesn't tell you that?
Shroomanator
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The smartest man on this page lol
There are not only already many threads on mushroom strains, there is even one on the first page! You don't even need to use the fucking search engine to find it. (face-palm)
Set and setting are going to have a bigger impact than strain. Even within a single strain, or even a single batch there tends to be quite a bit of variation in potency. That said, some strains will generally be stronger than others. This is more of a question of dose, set, and setting than anything else.
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wow just wow. there is no difference in mushroom?
Some of you guys are almost dangerous to advise around here.
THERE IS a difference between strains in the effect result. different shroom can give a totally different experience: different hallucination. different body high.
This place is FILLED with misinformation or just kids trying to see UFOs.
Maybe you need to be a sensible person to see a difference but for me theirs clearly a difference
Some of you guys are almost dangerous to advise around here.
THERE IS a difference between strains in the effect result. different shroom can give a totally different experience: different hallucination. different body high.
This place is FILLED with misinformation or just kids trying to see UFOs.
Maybe you need to be a sensible person to see a difference but for me theirs clearly a difference
Have you any proof they were azurescens apart from the dealers word? They're next to impossible to grow. You need to grow them outside and getting a big enough yield to sell is pretty unlikely.
They were probably just standard cubes.
I have the P. Azurescen in syringe. I will be injecting this into a hardwood substrate bag. The substrate bag has select saw dust and wood chips from Alder and Oak tree's. I bought this ready made to inject. I'm not sure I could grow P. Azurescen in this "grow bag", but once the bag is colonized, should my next step be is to dump it on hydrotons? My HydroShroom came with hydrotons that I have not used yet. I'm assuming this can work with a wood lover since it looks and feel like a type of wood (hydroton is), or it could be in the rock family? are hydrotons good for wood lovers? This will be my casing then right?
mjshroomer
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Xic was referring to Copelandia cyanscens, a species in manure with 8 binomials and a dose of 7-10 fresh med sized shrooms. 200 shrooms can get 20-30 people high when they are fresh.
Cubes are generally, as noted above, a cube is a cube is a cube.
go to http://www.mushroomjohn.org.species.htm
scroll down and on right side of page is a link to my cultivation cube strains, a few I personally developed, like the 22 inch tall Orissa, India strain. The majority of those in the list above are bs names and non-existing. The most potent are fresh Psilocybe cyanescens. Those can have 20 doses in a fresh ounce of baby specimens, or 4-6 large Psilocybe cyanescens that weigh one fresh ounce. They are actually more potent that Stamet's Azures, a species Gartz and stamets wrote up behind my back, I do not need to get into that. I do have a page from another website of the major strains of cubes that are awesome. Penis Envy for instance, are potent as they are thicker in the stipe and not hollow usually so are solid shrooms, while many home grown cubes have definite hallowed stems, meaning more water, loss of content and less weight than a solid Penis Envy shroom. I will see sometime this week, if reminded to post the list of cubes that are popular to growers. I grew Tak mountain Cubes from Thailand, South African Transkei Cubes, and a few others that produced large fruiting bodies of P. cubensis with wavy caps just like Psilocybe cyanescens and Psilocybe stuntzii have in age. Even the Wasson May 13, 1957 magazine water colors of the magic shrooms by noted dead French mycologist Roger Heim who drew Stropharia (Psilocybe) cubensis with wavy caps. And wavy caps are one of the many characteristics of the Genus Psilocybe. Galerinas, the deadly ones also get wavy caps and have been found growing under clusters of Psilocybe cyanescens. So if someone emails me later and reminds me, I will post the master list of the real developed strains of cubes now popular by me and friends and other friends of friends from my collections.
mjshroomer. My site is about educating those on magic shrooms, their histories, over 15,000 photos, and 60 of the more than 200 known species of psilocybian fungi are presented, dozens of my published shroom articles from all over the world, several of my books, articles by other scholars, and fantastic graphic psychedelic surreal art and shroom art, etc. Plus a record I recorded with the Beatles in 1964/
have a shroomy day
Cubes are generally, as noted above, a cube is a cube is a cube.
go to http://www.mushroomjohn.org.species.htm
scroll down and on right side of page is a link to my cultivation cube strains, a few I personally developed, like the 22 inch tall Orissa, India strain. The majority of those in the list above are bs names and non-existing. The most potent are fresh Psilocybe cyanescens. Those can have 20 doses in a fresh ounce of baby specimens, or 4-6 large Psilocybe cyanescens that weigh one fresh ounce. They are actually more potent that Stamet's Azures, a species Gartz and stamets wrote up behind my back, I do not need to get into that. I do have a page from another website of the major strains of cubes that are awesome. Penis Envy for instance, are potent as they are thicker in the stipe and not hollow usually so are solid shrooms, while many home grown cubes have definite hallowed stems, meaning more water, loss of content and less weight than a solid Penis Envy shroom. I will see sometime this week, if reminded to post the list of cubes that are popular to growers. I grew Tak mountain Cubes from Thailand, South African Transkei Cubes, and a few others that produced large fruiting bodies of P. cubensis with wavy caps just like Psilocybe cyanescens and Psilocybe stuntzii have in age. Even the Wasson May 13, 1957 magazine water colors of the magic shrooms by noted dead French mycologist Roger Heim who drew Stropharia (Psilocybe) cubensis with wavy caps. And wavy caps are one of the many characteristics of the Genus Psilocybe. Galerinas, the deadly ones also get wavy caps and have been found growing under clusters of Psilocybe cyanescens. So if someone emails me later and reminds me, I will post the master list of the real developed strains of cubes now popular by me and friends and other friends of friends from my collections.
mjshroomer. My site is about educating those on magic shrooms, their histories, over 15,000 photos, and 60 of the more than 200 known species of psilocybian fungi are presented, dozens of my published shroom articles from all over the world, several of my books, articles by other scholars, and fantastic graphic psychedelic surreal art and shroom art, etc. Plus a record I recorded with the Beatles in 1964/
have a shroomy day
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really its a very good thing...................
phatass
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i've heard very good things about "hawaiains", apparantly extremely potent
The trouble is that the same mushroom from the same batch can give a totally different experience - that's what psilocybin is like.
IamMe90
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It would be simply ignorant though to claim that the average variation in potency between say, p. cubensis and p. azurascens isn't greater than the variation in potency between p. cubensis and other strains of p. cubensis. Taking a LOT more of one drug is going to make it qualitatively more intense on average, even if that drug has a propensity to vary in intensity based on set and setting.
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Psilocybin Varieties
I was just looking at photos of 24 distinctly different varieties. I'll attach several examples. Variety names corresponding in same order as photos - Golden Teacher, Mazatapec, Hanoi, Panama, PES Hawaiian and Koh Samui.
Tasty!
I was just looking at photos of 24 distinctly different varieties. I'll attach several examples. Variety names corresponding in same order as photos - Golden Teacher, Mazatapec, Hanoi, Panama, PES Hawaiian and Koh Samui.
Tasty!
You don't call that ^ variation Iamme90, variation isn't between e.g. Cubensis and Azurescens but within a species or strain: the distribution of differences. What you are talking about is either just the difference between the species or the difference between how much variation there is within these species.
The difference between Cubensis strains / variation within Cubensis is mainly about tendency to produce many small fruits or few big fruits and whether colonization is aggressive which may also involve small differences in preferences for conditions. All in all though I think that the total yield is limited by genetics which don't seem to vary too much between races while exceptions are mutants instead (like Penis Envy). Maybe it's fun to pick a Cubensis strain with a certain heritage / origin and perhaps some tendencies, but even those are not set in stone... for the rest it is a marketing ploy. I have Albino A+ spores now, while not a true albino and the difference being in appearance, of course there is that small difference which is funny.
All that variegation means that there is a lot of genetic diversity and two specimen of what should be equal strains may be quite different. Some may be properly selected when propagated. (You get a proper culture by isolating a monoculture from a good and strong specimen, but you can water down a culture by just randomizing multispore). So it's a crapshoot, but there is a real limit to how different varieties can really be within a species unless there are genetic mutations.
You cannot compare with Azurescens, another species and like Cyanescens and others considerably more potent than Cubensis. (see 'hawaiians'). In my opinion those small fragile mushrooms have lovely effects!!
However it really does seem like Azurescens / Cyanescens are so much less variegated
The difference between Cubensis strains / variation within Cubensis is mainly about tendency to produce many small fruits or few big fruits and whether colonization is aggressive which may also involve small differences in preferences for conditions. All in all though I think that the total yield is limited by genetics which don't seem to vary too much between races while exceptions are mutants instead (like Penis Envy). Maybe it's fun to pick a Cubensis strain with a certain heritage / origin and perhaps some tendencies, but even those are not set in stone... for the rest it is a marketing ploy. I have Albino A+ spores now, while not a true albino and the difference being in appearance, of course there is that small difference which is funny.
All that variegation means that there is a lot of genetic diversity and two specimen of what should be equal strains may be quite different. Some may be properly selected when propagated. (You get a proper culture by isolating a monoculture from a good and strong specimen, but you can water down a culture by just randomizing multispore). So it's a crapshoot, but there is a real limit to how different varieties can really be within a species unless there are genetic mutations.
You cannot compare with Azurescens, another species and like Cyanescens and others considerably more potent than Cubensis. (see 'hawaiians'). In my opinion those small fragile mushrooms have lovely effects!!
However it really does seem like Azurescens / Cyanescens are so much less variegated
yepyepwoah
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Ive only had cubes and pan cyanscens aka blue meanies (i think).
I went hunting a few years ago when I hadnt tripped in years and didnt give a fuck about trespassing and potentially running from cops. Saw these lil fellers and looked em up. Apparently only 2 psychoactive strains in my area...
The pan cyans were active at 1g=3.5g cube levels I believe. I dunno if it was cuz I hadnt tripped in a while, but they seemed more "visionary" to me. Also, thats what I have read most others experience. Kinda wanna go back to that field, its so fun finding free trips. I like mushrooms. I want to get more into mycology.
I go hiking and see weird/randomly beautiful mushrooms I cant identify all the time. I remember some guys experiment where he basically implanted a colony of mushrooms on a pile of trash, and the mushrooms recycled/cleansed/etc it all. Mind blowing. Feels like I must have imagined it, cuz otherwisr we would be using mushrooms to eradicate our waste problem. Then again the rich elite care nothing about ruining the planet so.... Yah.
Mycology fuck yes
I went hunting a few years ago when I hadnt tripped in years and didnt give a fuck about trespassing and potentially running from cops. Saw these lil fellers and looked em up. Apparently only 2 psychoactive strains in my area...
The pan cyans were active at 1g=3.5g cube levels I believe. I dunno if it was cuz I hadnt tripped in a while, but they seemed more "visionary" to me. Also, thats what I have read most others experience. Kinda wanna go back to that field, its so fun finding free trips. I like mushrooms. I want to get more into mycology.
I go hiking and see weird/randomly beautiful mushrooms I cant identify all the time. I remember some guys experiment where he basically implanted a colony of mushrooms on a pile of trash, and the mushrooms recycled/cleansed/etc it all. Mind blowing. Feels like I must have imagined it, cuz otherwisr we would be using mushrooms to eradicate our waste problem. Then again the rich elite care nothing about ruining the planet so.... Yah.
Mycology fuck yes
Bigazznugz
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Penis envy