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Whats that super common alprazolam analogue called again?

Pickledlemons

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I have a drs appt first thing in the morning to talk about a taper and I'm so stupid I can't even remember what I'm addicted to. Its an alprazolam analogue. Its usually expressed as (xxx prefix) alprazolam. I'll know it when I hear it. Its probably the most common one, or at least was a couple years ago. Search engines are becoming harder and harder to find this stuff out with and I'm too tired to get on the darknet and look at my purchase history, like I'm about to pass out. Can somebody please tell me this painfully obvious answer before I wake up? Thank you!
 
If you don't know this doctor well you might freak them out by saying you are addicted to an obscure RC that he has never heard of. The result may be that the doctor will refuse to assist due to fear of liability. You might be better served converting your dose into an equivalent amount of alprazolam and say you are hooked on X quantity of alprazolam.

But if you know the doctor and the doctor is cool/understanding you might not need to do this, and instead can be direct with him.

How many mg/day of flualprazolam are you hooked on?
 
Yeah we pretty much already agreed to it on the phone and she already knows its not actually alprazolam. I just.., hate sounding like the junkie who doesn't even know what he's taking and was having a momentary brain fart/panic attack. Sorry :(

And... I don't know, they are pressed bars. Advertised as 8mg equivalent of alprazolam. I dont know how true that is but I was satisfied with their potency and I have a moderate tolerance at least. I thought I was taking around 3 a day, its always little bits but frequently so hard to keep track of. I've nearly exhausted my bag of 300 in just a couple months so it may actually be a fair bit more than that.

With my last doc we did a successful taper. But at that point I was not quite as deep in and probably could have cold turkeyed. But i can't anymore. And if she gives me 15-20mg of diazepam, it practically will be cold turkey.

This doc is more strict than my last one unfortunately. I asked once before and she wanted me to go into the pharmacy every day to get it I said f that at these doses it wont be much more than a placebo so I'm gonna be bed bound for 2 weeks at least, no state for leaving the house. So one day I got kinda mad and called and said you're basically forcing me into trying cold turkey again and again which is dangerous. I need real doses and I need time to be in bed. And surprisingly, she was receptive. So we'll see how it goes. A year has passed since the last time I asked so maybe she trusts me a bit more idk.

The worst part of my withdrawal is always chest pain so I've realized this time I just have to quit caffeine and nicotine at the same time. Its gonna be rough.
 
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Just want to say good luck PL. Oddly enough a few days ago a friend said that their daughter was using street xanax and they are trying to help her. I am not sure she is appeasing the parents or will actually try to taper off. So I went back to the BL history in benzos just a few days ago to research. I do not even know if they are going the taper route. I mentioned it as important but then they mention rehab. But rehab won't help with the acute withdrawal. So I think I may suggest the exact thing you are doing. Go to a doctor, say tolerance is sky high and get a decent dose of diazepam to taper off. But I also said be stern with the doc (like you were).

In that history research I was doing you were posting and were so careful for a while PL. :) Other people had the issues. But stay well, hopefully it goes smooth. I do think these posts help people dependent on benzos or for people doing research for others like me. I mean even a lot of doctors don't take benzo withdrawal seriously. (that burns me up) But a successful taper by a BL member speaks volumes. And there are plenty of success stories here for sure.

The other issue with the street stuff is who knows what she is taking.
 
Yeah we pretty much already agreed to it on the phone and she already knows its not actually alprazolam. I just.., hate sounding like the junkie who doesn't even know what he's taking and was having a momentary brain fart/panic attack. Sorry :(

And... I don't know, they are pressed bars. Advertised as 8mg equivalent of alprazolam. I dont know how true that is but I was satisfied with their potency and I have a moderate tolerance at least. I thought I was taking around 3 a day, its always little bits but frequently so hard to keep track of. I've nearly exhausted my bag of 300 in just a couple months so it may actually be a fair bit more than that.

With my last doc we did a successful taper. But at that point I was not quite as deep in and probably could have cold turkeyed. But i can't anymore. And if she gives me 15-20mg of diazepam, it practically will be cold turkey.

This doc is more strict than my last one unfortunately. I asked once before and she wanted me to go into the pharmacy every day to get it I said f that at these doses it wont be much more than a plbacebo so I'm gonna be bed bound for 2 weeks at least, no state for leaving the house. So one day I got kinda mad and called and said you're basically forcing me into trying cold turkey again and again which is dangerous. I need real doses and I need time to be in bed. And surprisingly, she was receptive. So we'll see how it goes. A year has passed since the last time I asked so maybe she trusts me a bit more idk.

The worst part of my withdrawal is always chest pain so I've realized this time I just have to quit caffeine and nicotine at the same time. Its gonna be rough.

Good luck, female psychiatrists are notably more conservative in their prescription patterns for controlled substances. Coming from a 6mg xanax habit, plus 30mg/day of temazepam (at night), I once consulted a female psychiatrist for help tapering, and she wrote me script for 5mg of diazepam, which I was instructed to take 1 pill every other day. She could have killed me if I had listened and followed her protocol.
 
Just want to say good luck PL. Oddly enough a few days ago a friend said that their daughter was using street xanax and they are trying to help her. I am not sure she is appeasing the parents or will actually try to taper off. So I went back to the BL history in benzos just a few days ago to research. I do not even know if they are going the taper route. I mentioned it as important but then they mention rehab. But rehab won't help with the acute withdrawal. So I think I may suggest the exact thing you are doing. Go to a doctor, say tolerance is sky high and get a decent dose of diazepam to taper off. But I also said be stern with the doc (like you were).

In that history research I was doing you were posting and were so careful for a while PL. :) Other people had the issues. But stay well, hopefully it goes smooth. I do think these posts help people dependent on benzos or for people doing research for others like me. I mean even a lot of doctors don't take benzo withdrawal seriously. (that burns me up) But a successful taper by a BL member speaks volumes. And there are plenty of success stories here for sure.

The other issue with the street stuff is who knows what she is taking.
Yeah... well I always knew the risk of benzo dependence. I think thats why I was able to avoid it for so long. I took it, as needed for years. But it only took one traumatic event to change that though, and thats also when I started vaping (after being nicotine free for 10 years). Anyway, I wish your friends daughter the best of luck... she'll need it. Bad place to be stuck at young age, even compared to something much scarier sounding like coke or even meth. At least those you can bounce back from relatively quickly. Benzo withdrawal... just never fing ends!!!

Good luck, female psychiatrists are notably more conservative in their prescription patterns for controlled substances. Coming from a 6mg xanax habit, plus 30mg/day of temazepam (at night), I once consulted a female psychiatrist for help tapering, and she wrote me script for 5mg of diazepam, which I was instructed to take 1 pill every other day. She could have killed me if I had listened and followed her protocol.
Thanks. Well at least my doc doesn't have the dea to worry about. I think some of her hesitancy comes from me also being on bupe. But I don't think she really conceptualizes that I've been on it for 10 years so my body has found equilibrium. I really don't think its much of a factor, at this point. idk maybe I'm wrong on that. But if taking 32mg of alprazolam (Ish kinda drug) doesn't kill me, I don't see why 100mg of valium would.
 
I wish your friends daughter the best of luck... she'll need it. Bad place to be stuck at young age, even compared to something much scarier sounding like coke or even meth. At least those you can bounce back from relatively quickly. Benzo withdrawal... just never fing ends!!!
Yes this is info the regular street guy does not have. Also the street ones seem stronger than regular prescription benzos but who knows what they contain. I did respond to friend and told them to do what you are doing. Go to a doctor, get one that can help with tapering and get on whatever dose of diazepam. I also emphasized this is not an opinion as withdrawal from benzos and other sedatives should be taken seriously and slowly. It makes me wonder if a younger person can bounce back quicker but it is still a bad place to be for anyone.

Good luck, I did read that some people that went nice and slow had an easier time.
 
I got 120mg diazepam a day. Which is still not enough but thats 20mg more than the max I figured I'd walk out of there with, knowing her. Plus, I don't want it to be completely painless. Need to remember why I dont want to get back here again.

The harder part was the dispensing schedule. She wanted to do the pick it up every day thing again when I thought we already agreed that was stupid. But I just kept pushing and kept pushing kept pushing, fell my knees and begged ... she finally gave in. Pick up once a week :)

Thanks for the support guys.
 
Excellent news PL. Now you got this. And I believe I also got through to my friend and the seriousness of this so they will make an appointment with the family doc for the daughter. Also alerted them that street stuff is usually stronger and not what is it purported to be. See, you already helped others. This stuff branches out, which is why I am a PITA when I keep asking people to update. You'll be fine. But I wonder whatever happened to the guy Joeypress that was on 100 mg of clonazolam a day. Bluelight likes success stories. It for sure helps people. And if people backslide we get to see that we are all human. No judgement.

So thank you for the support and throwing this out there. It is not easy being vulnerable but it helps in the recovery.
 
Excellent news PL. Now you got this. And I believe I also got through to my friend and the seriousness of this so they will make an appointment with the family doc for the daughter. Also alerted them that street stuff is usually stronger and not what is it purported to be. See, you already helped others. This stuff branches out, which is why I am a PITA when I keep asking people to update. You'll be fine. But I wonder whatever happened to the guy Joeypress that was on 100 mg of clonazolam a day. Bluelight likes success stories. It for sure helps people. And if people backslide we get to see that we are all human. No judgement.

So thank you for the support and throwing this out there. It is not easy being vulnerable but it helps in the recovery.

This is something that scares the absolute shit out of me. I have a child and the thought of her going down any road I ended up on in my early years, sends shivers down my spine.

It took a while, but I finally understand what my parents have gone through with me. That never ending worry and fear.
 
I got 120mg diazepam a day. Which is still not enough but thats 20mg more than the max I figured I'd walk out of there with, knowing her. Plus, I don't want it to be completely painless. Need to remember why I dont want to get back here again.

The harder part was the dispensing schedule. She wanted to do the pick it up every day thing again when I thought we already agreed that was stupid. But I just kept pushing and kept pushing kept pushing, fell my knees and begged ... she finally gave in. Pick up once a week :)

Thanks for the support guys.

I’m very happy your appointment went well.
You’re facing some real challenges.. but at least you’re facing them.
I wish you nothing but success.
:)
 
It took a while, but I finally understand what my parents have gone through with me. That never ending worry and fear.
My wife and I do not have kids. Although Uncle Jack got picked 3 times for Godfather. I said no to the 4th. :) But I am a worrier, and I can not even imagine laying awake at night when my kid is out with his new license. And yes, I look at me, I would worry if I had a kid like me. Add in the crap streeet drugs we have today. Very worrisome. But your kids sound like they have a very present parent that will guard and guide! We certainly know about drugs.

But the fact is people are naive when it comes to certain drugs. It is good to put all info out there. It helped me. And for some reason people come to me and ask questions. (is it written all over my face?)

I am glad PL got this squared away. A total relief I bet. Yes work to be done but probably more comfortable.
 
I have a few more years before I have to really worry about it, but it’s in my head… and it doesn’t go away.

I think my past could be helpful in guiding her to the one she feels is best for her. Also I can do is my best with all the information between I’ve been given.. through personal experience, or things I read about on here (I thought I knew about drugs.. holy shit did I ever learn fast that I knew very little).

I love seeing success stories as well. I like knowing people are on good paths.

Sure I have some struggles, but not like I used to.. thank god.

I believe in open, honest communication. It’s something I’ve been trying to show her from the beginning. Letting her know she can always come to me is the most importsnt piece of knowledge I feel I can give her. The rest.. will be up to her, ultimately. Just as it was for me. My parents are amazing and I’m not really sure where I’d be without them.

:)
 
take it seriously. 3mg a day flualp withdrawal tried hard to stop my heart at around 2 weeks cold turkey
 
take it seriously. 3mg a day flualp withdrawal tried hard to stop my heart at around 2 weeks cold turkey
Could you elaborate? What do you mean? Because like I stated, my worst withdrawal symptom by far is chest pain... constantly feeling like I'm any second away from a heart attack.
 
well i could feel these micro moments where i could swear my heart locked for a moment, it was a sharp super brief pain, enough to scare me into curling up on my recliner and trying to pool blood around my heart area with the way i sat... i didn't really know what else to do other than try to saturate that area with more blood etc. anyway, i would not do that again, personally if i were you i'd probly get some alcohol and low dose... they're both GABA drugs, and alcohol eased my withdrawal from bromazolam when i took a trip to texas. i wouldn't get drunk, just have ethanol in you to help bridge the way easier. don't mix benzos and alcohol tho.
 
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