What's going to happen to Amsterdam?

[Jackal]

Then use less. The sweet taste of herbs should not be ruined with the acrid taste of tobacco.

I have never heard of a cigarette referred to as a "stogie". Stogie is slang for cigar. As far as the size of papers...well, perhaps that's why you Europeans need add tobacco to your joints. Use a smaller paper and leave out the tobacco.

I disagree. But why the fuck get uptight about it? If most Americans want to smoke tiny spliffs in a small skin they can

But don't tell me how I "should" roll. Or the way weed was "meant" to be smoked

In a nice joint I use king size slims, maybe half a gram of bud and a quarter of a good tobacco ciggy ground up and skinned. Usually four, maybe more of us will get a few turns each on iit. It stays burning and burns more evenly than on it's own.

It's pure personal preference, and I can have it both ways so I really don't care to dispute it.

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As for the Dutch smoking legislation- It won't cause as much disruption as you might think. It's going to be difficult to police whether a spliff is pure or not!

And like in other countries in Europe where it has been introduced many bars and clubs and cafes have made nice outdoor areas and smoking gardens with heaters and canopy's for bad weather.

So you can always smoke your spliff there.

I need to smoke%)

 

[squirrel_master]

Then use less. The sweet taste of herbs should not be ruined with the acrid taste of tobacco. Hash...well...I can see the need for that in a pinch, but it smokes fine in a pipe on its own. I'm not opposed to hitting a jay rolled with some tobacco, but it sure as hell isn't my preference.

agreed. we smoke homegrown over here as strong as your genetics and you don't see our pansy asses sprinkling in that crap. like finder said, just roll a smaller j.

 

[Jackal]

agreed. we smoke homegrown over here as strong as your genetics.

bs

 

[Johnny1]

This law will improve coffee shops, just like it improves bars and clubs.

I would hate to make a trip to Amsterdam only to have the person next to me on the coffee shop couch smoking tobacco. They can smoke tobacco outside, which should be the policy worldwide for tobacco use.

What other drug than tobacco does everybody else have to breathe, smell, and wear? Fuck tobacco. Coffee shops are about weed.

 

[The_Idler]

so long as it's GOOD baccy (i.e. Drum Gold), i don't mind if it's joint.

still, i much prefer a silver rizla kingslim of just pure, well ground, sweet, hydro ganjaaaaaaaaah =/


oh but, the USA homegrown is rarely as good as the local genetic hydro here.
sure there's some really shit weed in some places in Europe,
but in my town, in the UK, at least, the local hydro is always fucking top notch shit.

There's a hydroponics shop on one of the main shopping streets, with all the lamps, fans, ferts, enclosures, books and seeds (FUCKIN GOOD STRAINS) that you'd need, to set up a fuckin warehouse operation in a day's work.

they even custom build farms to any size and spec.

its like fucking riiiiiidiculous,
there's houses filled with farms and warehouse ops being busted all the time here,
but there's so many, and it's so easy and quick to set up another,
that we just keep churning out AA grade ganja all year round.


but yeh my preferred MOI is via long glass pipe (9").
i have occasionally had wooden longs as well, which were good (had nice big bowls)-
but the smoothness of the glass was badass.
and no way would i put tobacco in the pipe.

like, i would not even let anyone smoke tobacco through it, it would ruin it.


then, after that, i'd have silver rizla king slim cone of pure ground hydro.
that's good, but one would have to share.




man the Opium makes me talkable....

 

[The_Idler]

This law will improve coffee shops, just like it improves bars and clubs.

I would hate to make a trip to Amsterdam only to have the person next to me on the coffee shop couch smoking tobacco. They can smoke tobacco outside, which should be the policy worldwide for tobacco use.

What other drug than tobacco does everybody else have to breathe, smell, and wear? Fuck tobacco. Coffee shops are about weed.

Q.F.T.F.T.

 

[Ilfirin]

Q.F.T.F.T.

Agreed

 

[squirrel_master]

bs

where do you think we get our genetics from, dumb ass. 8) you think growers over there are using some super secret technique that makes their smoke 10 times more potent. get a life.

 

[Johnny1]

My guess is "Quoted for the fucking truth."

 

[ChemicalSmiles]

I don't understand why Europeans love to ruin good herb by rolling one up with tobacco anyway.

I think part of the reason they do this is the pot is of such high quality, and there not used to smoking it, or NEVER really get USED to smoking it that they do this....

 

[mik82]

Maybe the tobacco thing is historic?

I think that perhaps it's because the "traditional" smoke in the UK and Europe was Moroccan hash. This obviously needs tobacco to build a joint.. As the habit is to build in this manner it means that skunk gets rolled with tobacco too .Anyway, back when I used to smoke I couldn't imagine rolling most skunk without tobacco. It doesn't really fit in with a good smoking session as you'd just get battered too quickly. It's all about slowly getting stoned and having a good laugh/conversation rather than monging within 10 mins because you skinned up a pure white widow right at the start of the night.

I assume in the states the traditional smoke was Mexican bush weed. Perfect for rolling pure and hence the tradition is to roll pure joints.

 

[pr0ficient]

i just got back from amsterdam.

the coffee shop i was hanging out in was almost all locals and every single one of them rolled their joints with tobacco.

they were all tripping out on me because i rolled mine with no tobacco.

weird-o's.....

haha, I was the same way when I was visited. I was always rolling with pure bud, while all the Europeans would mix it with tobacco.

I had conversations with several Europeans about this practice of theirs. They all seemed to be shocked that anyone would smoke pure marijuana joints. They felt that bud didn't burn properly by itself and that smoking it alone would get them too fucked up.

 

[The_Idler]

Maybe the tobacco thing is historic?

I think that perhaps it's because the "traditional" smoke in the UK and Europe was Moroccan hash. This obviously needs tobacco to build a joint.. As the habit is to build in this manner it means that skunk gets rolled with tobacco too
...
I assume in the states the traditional smoke was Mexican bush weed. Perfect for rolling pure and hence the tradition is to roll pure joints.

this is true,

until a few years ago with the hydro explosion,
moroccan hash was most prevalent.

hydro is very strong, and to smoke a kingslim of that would get me pretty fucked tbh.

 

[Jackal]

where do you think we get our genetics from, dumb ass. 8) you think growers over there are using some super secret technique that makes their smoke 10 times more potent. get a life.

Look, you can't go around making sweeping statements about the strength of genetic bud in the US vs the strength of bud in the UK based on some picture in your head of life outside the US border

I have smoked a lot of weed grown in spain, the uk, holland, canada and the states, and honestly, some of the most potent shit of the lot has been here in London and England.

Obviously anybody anywhere can cultivate a very potent strain, regardless of where in the world they are. It just seems that in the UK most people who grow for profit want to bang out this shit which gets you crazy fucking high and makes you sketchy as fuck.

This is a fucking pity, because there are so many nice fucking strains out there that people would go nuts for, if they were not just being bombarded with this skunk all the time.

You can smoke it alone, I do do it sometimes (I'm not as fucking dogmatic on my views as our transatlantic cousins seem to be on theirs ) but it is just too strong. You would only need a few pulls to be high as hell.

I don't know about you but I FUCKING LOVE TO SMOKE, INHALING THAT SMOKE, BLOWING SMOKE RINGS, EXHALING THROUGH MY NOSTRILS, BURNING HOLES IN THE BEDSHEETS, HOT ROCKING ALL MY CLOTHES . . .

I mean, how could you not love something as not right as that obviously is?

I rest my case%)

 

[phr]

Settle down, spaz.

 

[Mr_Fluffykins]

smoke bong hits, grind that shit up, until one hit is one bowl, and take a hit every five minutes until reached deseried high,

 

[Finder]

oh but, the USA homegrown is rarely as good as the local genetic hydro here.
sure there's some really shit weed in some places in Europe,
but in my town, in the UK, at least, the local hydro is always fucking top notch shit.

Source? This is such a bullshit claim.

Look, you can't go around making sweeping statements about the strength of genetic bud in the US vs the strength of bud in the UK based on some picture in your head of life outside the US border

Uh...pot

I have smoked a lot of weed grown in spain, the uk, holland, canada and the states, and honestly, some of the most potent shit of the lot has been here in London and England.

Meet kettle. 8)

There is great weed everywhere. If you think otherwise you are kidding yourself. Bottom line is some people like to smoke theirs with tobacco. I am not one of those people and never will be. I'll leave it to you Europeans.