Whats a good strain for general pain relief?

[brokedownpalace10]

in some ppl thc increases pain overall r/chronicpain on reddit attests to this.

My experience is weed only works once or twice if I haven’t used it in weeks on pain…then a vicious rebound happens where thc or any other cannabinoid increases pain all the time using it.


It’s not the way opiates increase pain either via hyperalgesia…like the increased pain is while peaking on weed not when it wears off

My experience with back pain and any other type of pain and weed

I love weed as a drug but the only thing that has ever got me to stop using it for extended periods is chronic pain

I'm finding your experience illuminating. I remember a few times I had heard of people saying that pot made bad toothache pain a lot worse. I've also had that experience myself once. My theory has been that pot can make you focus more on extreme pain, but now I think there's more involved than just that.

I have myofascial pain disorder(slash, we don't know what the fuck it is) centered in my neck but causing pain throughout my body. Neck pain is notorious for referred pain. I have had what I thought was bad tendonitis in my elbow which wasn't responding to treatment, which then alleviated when my neck got modified treatment. Muscles get knots (trigger points) which can press on nerve bundles and cause all kinds of weird issues. (you can actually feel a knot and it physically goes away with treatment, they're hard to track down) I've lived with this a few decades.

Anyway, pot is very effective for this type of pain (in me). The fact that it has muscle relaxing as well as it's pain relief and anti-inflammatory properties is likely part of it. It also can get you in touch with your body and give you patience to find and stretch knots. I usually can't stretch effectively at all, needing to treat with moving exercises or massage, but I can do stretches well while high.

We can surely say that YMMV with pot for pain. In my not so humble opinion, it depends on the type of pain as well as the severity. My condition is known for pain that is certainly formidable, but not excruciating. What's bad about it is that it is *always* there. You wake up with it, go to bed with it, and there is no position you can get in which alleviates it.

Hang in there mon, and good luck. Your posts are interesting data points for me.

 

[LucidSDreamr]

I'm finding your experience illuminating. I remember a few times I had heard of people saying that pot made bad toothache pain a lot worse. I've also had that experience myself once. My theory has been that pot can make you focus more on extreme pain, but now I think there's more involved than just that.

I have myofascial pain disorder(slash, we don't know what the fuck it is) centered in my neck but causing pain throughout my body. Neck pain is notorious for referred pain. I have had what I thought was bad tendonitis in my elbow which wasn't responding to treatment, which then alleviated when my neck got modified treatment. Muscles get knots (trigger points) which can press on nerve bundles and cause all kinds of weird issues. (you can actually feel a knot and it physically goes away with treatment, they're hard to track down) I've lived with this a few decades.

Anyway, pot is very effective for this type of pain (in me). The fact that it has muscle relaxing as well as it's pain relief and anti-inflammatory properties is likely part of it. It also can get you in touch with your body and give you patience to find and stretch knots. I usually can't stretch effectively at all, needing to treat with moving exercises or massage, but I can do stretches well while high.

We can surely say that YMMV with pot for pain. In my not so humble opinion, it depends on the type of pain as well as the severity. My condition is known for pain that is certainly formidable, but not excruciating. What's bad about it is that it is *always* there. You wake up with it, go to bed with it, and there is no position you can get in which alleviates it.

Hang in there mon, and good luck. Your posts are interesting data points for me.

The myth that cannabis decreases inflammation is so widespread it’s shocking to me how it’s some accepted fact.

The truth is that certain academic papers have found reductions in certain inflammatory cytokines but if pot decreases one inflammatory cytokines while increasing 100 inflammatory cytokines (which the articles outside of research never mention)…is it really a net anti inflammatory effect.

For example here just one paper showing pot increases pro inflammatory cytokines. Literally thousands more papers do conclude pot raises certain inflammatory signalers while decreasing others.

Google Scholar

scholar.google.com

As very as being a muscle relaxer I haven’t read the actual science on that but I find the complete opposite. Being high causes me to tense up and clench muscle groups involuntarily…even twitching if I’m using heavily

 

[brokedownpalace10]

The myth that cannabis decreases inflammation is so widespread it’s shocking to me how it’s some accepted fact.

The truth is that certain academic papers have found reductions in certain inflammatory cytokines but if pot decreases one inflammatory cytokines while increasing 100 inflammatory cytokines (which the articles outside of research never mention)…is it really a net anti inflammatory effect.

For example here just one paper showing pot increases pro inflammatory cytokines. Literally thousands more papers do conclude pot raises certain inflammatory signalers while decreasing others.

Google Scholar

scholar.google.com

As very as being a muscle relaxer I haven’t read the actual science on that but I find the complete opposite. Being high causes me to tense up and clench muscle groups involuntarily…even twitching if I’m using heavily

Interesting stuff. Skimming a few articles, it seems the total anti-inflammatory effect might be contoversial (but not dissproven).

This was interesting.

"Tumor necrosis factor alpha, interleukin (IL)-1β, IL-6, and interferon gamma were the most commonly studied pro-inflammatory cytokines and their levels were consistently reduced after treatment with CBD, CBG, or CBD+THC, but not with THC alone. The association between cannabinoid-induced anti-inflammatory response and disease severity was examined. In 22 studies where CBD, CBG, or CBD in combination with THC were administered, a reduction in the levels of at least one inflammatory cytokine was observed, and in 24 studies, some improvements in disease or disability were apparent. THC alone did not reduce pro-inflammatory cytokine levels (n=3), but resulted in improvements in neuropathic pain in one study.

Conclusions: This review shows that CBD, CBG, and CBD+THC combination exert a predominantly anti-inflammatory effect in vivo, whereas THC alone does not reduce pro-inflammatory or increase anti-inflammatory cytokines. It is anticipated that this information could be used to inform human clinical trials of cannabinoids, focusing on CBD and CBG to reduce inflammation across a range of pathophysiological processes."

https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/abs/10.1089/can.2020.0105

So, THC by itself might be much less effective.

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Pot makes me relaxed as hell. My muscles can be extremely tense and I can feel that melt away.
I have to be in a comfortable situation like home with my peeps on the couch, though.

MARIJUANA AND MUSCLE SPASTICITY - Marijuana as Medicine? - NCBI Bookshelf

 

[LucidSDreamr]

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Pot makes me relaxed as hell. My muscles can be extremely tense and I can feel that melt away.
I have to be in a comfortable situation like home with my peeps on the couch, though.

MARIJUANA AND MUSCLE SPASTICITY - Marijuana as Medicine? - NCBI Bookshelf

I’m a downers user so thc feels like a stimulant to me basically. Jaw clenched muscles clench etc.

Benzos and opioids are what I’m used to and they relax you way more and turn your mind down too…wee ramps everything up on my case

 

[SpiralusSancti]

Weed can make me feel more comfortable in my body and in a such a way kind of acts as pain-relief. When combined with meds that clearly help me with pain (opiods and muscle relaxants) it potentates pain-relief properties.

But weed making pain worse ain’t that rare, I know couple of people irl who sense more pain after smoking weed. Does it simply make them more aware of pain or is there something else to it, idk..

 

[Psykoton]

I tried Green Crack at the Greenhouse coffee shop in Amsterdam a couple of years ago. Best strain for my pain.

 

[Jeebis2]

Larry burger. Was introduced via the ny med system and its top tier

 

[Jibult]

Larry Burger?

Sounds super niche.

Definitely got my interest...

Strain Review: Larry Burger by High Larry US - The Highest Critic

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Larry Burger (Skunk House Genetics) :: Cannabis Strain Info :: SeedFinder.eu

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I've never heard of either one of its parent strains and that surprises the hell out of me... but there's Cookies in its lineage, so I think this might a must-buy/must-try if I ever come across it.

 

[nepalnt21]

pain…then a vicious rebound happens where thc or any other cannabinoid increases pain all the time using it.

interesting... a similar thing happens to me with g.i. issues... it really helps my nausea when i use it seldomly, but the effect is minimal if i start using it every day for a week or so, and then if i do it all day every day it actually makes my g.i. problems worse.

 

[foodcrisis]

But weed making pain worse ain’t that rare, I know couple of people irl who sense more pain after smoking weed. Does it simply make them more aware of pain or is there something else to it, idk..

i think some people might breath funny after they smoke and that change can increase the pain. i'm just guessing from my experience where i have nerve damage in my back and a herniated disk. this caused me to get pins all over my body. it was pretty bad for a while and smoking would increase the amount of pins i would get... i didn't want to quit smoking so i'd try different breathing techniques and as time went on i learnt to breath completly different. my back has healed a bit and i never get pins when i'm smoking now. sometimes when i'm sober i'll get them here and there.

i think mairjuana being psychedelic in nature too can lead some people to experience more pain and others can dull the pain some how. just depends on how the persons mind works i guess... for me drugs like mushrooms and acid helped me with pain and getting less pins in my body even more than weed eventually did. i'm sure a person could have a bad trip though and end up focusing on their pain more if what i hear about psychedelics is true.

 

[jasperkent]

I have sciatica and I'm prone to neck pain.

Personally, I never felt any difference one way or another from smoking any kind of weed or from CBD oil.

However, I've recently been using some locally-made gummies that allegedly contain Delta 9, CBD, CBG, and THCV. I don't know the ratios or exact amounts of these cannabinoids. I do know that just one gummy gives me a relaxing buzz and significantly reduces my neck pain (similar to 800mg ibuprofen). It also helps me fall asleep.

YMMV.

 

[LucidSDreamr]

interesting... a similar thing happens to me with g.i. issues... it really helps my nausea when i use it seldomly, but the effect is minimal if i start using it every day for a week or so, and then if i do it all day every day it actually makes my g.i. problems worse.

Chronic cannabis use is linked to higher chances of developing IBS (irritable bowel syndrome)

What GI problems I particular? Constipation, diahrrea, pain? I would imagine you probably eat differently on cannabis too

There’s a lot of research on that if you put it into google scholar.

Of course ask any pothead or dispensary and they’ll tell you it cures IBS along with cancer aids and bullet wounds

 

[nepalnt21]

@LucidSDreamr

as a matter of fact... yeah, (iirc) it was general abdominal pain and i would have diarrhea in the morning if i smoked, which would make me late for work (one of the reasons i stopped)... the nausea was awful some days, but luckily i never had the emesis syndrome i've read about. and i certainly binged more, compulsive shoving of food up into the ole orifice.

hard to remember all of what i had, but most of my g.i. stuff went away when i quit using all the time.

i find that i value cannabis more as a seldomly used novelty enhancer/ POV shifter.

 

[LucidSDreamr]

@LucidSDreamr

as a matter of fact... yeah, (iirc) it was general abdominal pain and i would have diarrhea in the morning if i smoked, which would make me late for work (one of the reasons i stopped)... the nausea was awful some days, but luckily i never had the emesis syndrome i've read about. and i certainly binged more, compulsive shoving of food up into the ole orifice.

hard to remember all of what i had, but most of my g.i. stuff went away when i quit using all the time.

i find that i value cannabis more as a seldomly used novelty enhancer/ POV shifter.

As a drug addict I would just recommend doing opioids on top of the cannabis to combat the diahrrea with some constipation.



But seriously I totally agree with you about cannabis being used sparingly. It’s such a great a high like that but using it daily for no fucking reason while I’m trapped at home often even busy…I’m like why? I don’t even like this high I like downers and cannabis feels like a stimulant to me.

But when I’m out exploring a new area doing something in nature or a concert or whatever is what I wish I could always reserve cannabis for. But I’m a drug addict and it’s a very forgiving drug to abuse so it’s sort of my go to just to alter myself to a state I don’t even like that much just to get out of reality without the consequences that come with abusing hard drugs

 

[nepalnt21]

As a drug addict I would just recommend doing opioids on top of the cannabis to combat the diahrrea with some constipation.

i do take more kratom than i should... and the constipation is real.

But seriously I totally agree with you about cannabis being used sparingly. It’s such a great a high like that but using it daily for no fucking reason while I’m trapped at home often even busy…I’m like why? I don’t even like this high I like downers and cannabis feels like a stimulant to me.

yeah, i get anxious af with cannabis... until the crash, and then it's hard to wake up.

But when I’m out exploring a new area doing something in nature or a concert or whatever is what I wish I could always reserve cannabis for. But I’m a drug addict and it’s a very forgiving drug to abuse so it’s sort of my go to just to alter myself to a state I don’t even like that much just to get out of reality without the consequences that come with abusing hard drugs

your situation is so much like mine... i just replaced weed with kratom... ugh

 

[paranoid android]

I find hash to be good for pain to. Red Lebanese hash is really good for pain

 

[Jeebis2]

I find hash to be good for pain to. Red Lebanese hash is really good for pain

Oh if you're talking old school, truly medical hash and don't mention mallana cream or true Nepalese temple ball as extreme pain relievers, then you're only scratching the surface, lol.

 

[Jabberwocky]

in some ppl thc increases pain overall r/chronicpain on reddit attests to this.

I've noticed it can definitely make some types of pain worse, like broken bones, cuts or burns. It seems to almost highlight the pain and makes me focus on it.

But it helps me with certain inflammatory, general type pain, or headaches.

 

[crazyhairman]

I know it's not a popular opinion but I kinda prefer hemp based extraction mixed with CBD .

15 mgs D9 15 mgs CBD is actually pretty helpful. I might re-dose after an hour or so.

I really try to keep my tolerance low

I have always had back pain issues, I have had 6 vertebrae fused about 16 years ago. I don't smoke or vape anything these days.

Just edibles, super low dose. It helps me atane a quality of life with pain management without opioids. You still need to do your stretches, or work outs.

Super thankful . You know I really try not to dwell on it anymore but we all know where chronic pain takes you. We've all seen some dark times from it. I am happy to be in a manageable place with it.

 

[Jeebis2]

I know it's not a popular opinion but I kinda prefer hemp based extraction mixed with CBD .

15 mgs D9 15 mgs CBD is actually pretty helpful. I might re-dose after an hour or so.

I really try to keep my tolerance low

I have always had back pain issues, I have had 6 vertebrae fused about 16 years ago. I don't smoke or vape anything these days.

Just edibles, super low dose. It helps me atane a quality of life with pain management without opioids. You still need to do your stretches, or work outs.

Super thankful . You know I really try not to dwell on it anymore but we all know where chronic pain takes you. We've all seen some dark times from it. I am happy to be in a manageable place with it.

I almost exclusively buy 1:1 or 1:4 thc:cbd items at the med dispensary

My favorite is 1thc:4 cbd:2cbn