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What to expect at rehab?

Chain smoking cigs is like the official rehab pastime I think. I don't smoke in normal life but by the end I was smoking half a pack a day. Ironic. Both rehabs I went too where less than useless if I am being totally honest. Like I wasn't totally committed to sobriety but if that's a pre requisite for it working then there should of been about 3 people there. I would say 25 percent of the group had become institutionalized in the sense that they would leave rehab go get strung out for a couple months piss off there family and come back. I am talking 8 or 9 rehab trips at age 22. Its hard not to see that and not get cynical about the treatment these places are selling. I really believe that community based treatment is the way of the future. Housing, supervising, and feeding the clients is where most of the operations budget for these places go. If you cut that out things treatment would be much cheaper and more resources could be spent on giving 1 to 1 attention.

The lack of 1 to 1 attention irks the shit out of me.
 
I find that smoking is so prevalent at rehabs and psychiatric facilities equally because people are bored and desperate for whatever fix they can get (very unhealthy motivation) and, it would seem more importantly, a lack of developed social skills - it is way easier to bond for ten minutes over the shared experience of smoking a cig when you think you do not have anything in common than it is trying to actually make the effort to try and find out if you have anything in common, because it requires putting yourself out there and a tad vulnerable
 
Perhaps toothpastedog. Maybe a smoke just a smoke. I just smoked cause i was bored, so fucking bored. You cant lay on your bed and read or listen to muuic so this last time my room was at the end of the hall near the door out to the smoking porch. No shit, i coud tell which drug each person was in by the way they put out theyre cigs. Itntersting sociialogical queston for manyboychef for his book. I really could. Opiates users would just dab them barely put them out. Coke guys would squich spelling that butt like ir stole from him and the stoners wanted to play with their cigs. Roll um around the astray. I learrned s lot of shit about those fuckers from smoking cigs. How ofen? How mwny in a row? Def learned a lot. So thank goodness we smoked or i wouldnt have had this insight, lol. CJ i agree with you man. Treatment facilities sre gonna get bugger ansd is alll gonna be about feeding and housing and all they have to do is have one meeting a month thete, bam, you got yourself a recovery center. Its scary. Needs to go the other way where 19 people go and each gets not know eachother and get into some good emontional sessions. And smoking. Cant ever makevrehab smoke free. You could but uoud have fights on you hands every hr. Mofos trying tobkick drugs and alcohol and cant smoke? Shit. Im flippin on somebody. All the aggressiion and guilt from my use is gonna bottle up and explode in some dudes face. So yes, cigs in rehabbs are good. Maybe if you ho to a impatient diet center you can get to know eachother instread of smoking. Tootpastedog that ain a diss on you bro just saying in rehab a smoke is just a smoke and it keeps people camp and nboth time ive been at this rehab im the first responder to s fight. I hated it. I just eanna go smoke and real this book that will set me free. But thats the job if get. Do when shit popped off...Mike fight. Shouldnt this shot be the staffs job? Im trying to recover here. Aint got times for stupid games. It was always the little prison fuckers. Or jail kids. Aint graduated to prison yet. I never had to dovshit but bresk then up but one was my buddy from high school. I don t see him in 20 years then at same rehab. That was cool. There was this littlevfuckervnamed Matt who was a rich boy herion sddict snd would try to dell all this shit he brough like iphones and ipad. Just reeally annoying and even brought his scales to rehab. We had to go to Dr wiyh him one day me and my buddy by thr time we got bsck we both knee we were gonns get kicked out for bestinh thid boys ass. Chad my baddy got ud cigs from a nice young lady and came came forr a smoke for me and then matt comes out hey where you get those cigs? Chad said they fell outs the sky mothuf. Som im watching this dude snd hes cheeing sunflowet seeds anf was spitting them all over chickc car we got the cigs from. Yeah all over her hood and he dodint know she was snd i went to get chad and he was already halkway here and be put him up on the window and said this is how it is. Matt was real chill for a few days then the fight. Matt slams the smoking door open ssaying piece of shit and sll this and i even said dude what happened. Then Chris my buddy from high achool saying call me a peice of shit? They got op in the faces and thats ok and im like thinking hit him chris hit him and Matt said something about his mom or something snd Chris pounded him. I didnt do shit but go get a counceler. Crazy shit. Im just trying to recover.,what a shit ass place and its a shame bc a man fromr here in Durham nc got guys out of jails and sentances and their work would be build the place during thrvday and gio thru big book at night.and it worked. Those fellows recoveted all from a kind mans heart. Theres a bridge here in Durham that he ised to sleep under and if you go under there the serenity prayer was erched in perfectly. Must have took him 5 years to do that about the time he was down there. Thats his rehab ive bren talking sll this shot about but how people can also destroy. They kicked out the coordinator caude he wad missing a letter at the end of his nsme and he was a great guy. Nee crap managament. Stsrtinh hiring all those boys who graduate rehab but ainy got shit so they hire them as stiff. Joke man. Well ive written thrvlongest post wityhout s paragrapg and im sure the delling with the misspelling hasnt been easy but considering my mind its the best i can with my mind the way it is. Hoe ysll enjoyes reading it. Peace
 
Nice long wall of text there Mike. Perhaps next time you may take the time to go back and reread your post before actually hitting the post button, especislly in the case of the longer ones.

Anywho, how are you doing buddy, everything going okay with you at your house? How are the drugs treating you these days? Please try and go easy on the DXM if you are not already doing so. I care about you my friend.
 
I cant believe I read that wall of text. Anyway that sounds like one of those fly by night Christian rehab places I am always hearing about out in the sticks. Having clients break up fights is beyond insane man!
 
I liked the fights, but then again, I also like to fight. I don't fight anymore because once you get to a certain age the consequences are pretty harsh.

Yeah you can tell a lot about a person with how they smoke a cigarette. I always leave an inch on mine when I stub it out. Never know when that will come in handy.

Something else I was thinking about is rehab romance. There was this young kid in the last rehab. He was you know, primping, wearing cologne...talking about what girls were hot. My other bunkie and I had to sit him down and give him the talk. "Yeah we know...if you have been riding a horse through the desert when you finally get off your privates are going to need attention. These girls here are like a bear dipping its paw in the cesspool hoping for salmon but only getting turds." He couldn't draw the comparison that we are all broken people just like him trying to get better and yeah if you used opiates for any length of time your sex drive is going to be crazy. It is not a reason to say "I like my women fresh out of rehab, still shaking." We basically just told him to keep it in his pants and wait till he gets out. The stable you had using is going to be drastically different from the stable you will be choosing from when you are healthy.

It seems like they do lump institutionalized guys in with people trying to recover. I had a guy in Syracuse Behavioral Healthcare get mad at me for holding my tray above his at lunch. I told him to fuck off, mind his own business or sit somewhere else. I explained to him that this is not jail. If you want to stay in jail do so for yourself. I hate being there, and I choose not to let the way things were be the way things are. It actually helped him understand that he didn't have to be so tough. There is the king making that goes on in jail but to a much lesser degree. After that he chose to look at rehab as a little vacation and thanked me.
 
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It seems like they do lump institutionalized guys in with people trying to recover. I had a guy in Syracuse Behavioral Healthcare get mad at me for holding my tray above his at lunch. I told him to fuck off, mind his own business or sit somewhere else. I explained to him that this is not jail. If you want to stay in jail do so for yourself. I hate being there, and I choose not to let the way things were be the way things are. It actually helped him understand that he didn't have to be so tough. There is the king making that goes on in jail but to a much lesser degree. After that he chose to look at rehab as a little vacation and thanked me.
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Why was he mad you held your tray above his? That's a weird jail thing I haven't heard.
 
I apologize about the wall text. No more of those. Plus the spelling eas horrendous. I coildnt even resd what i wrote. I didnt hae my with about me yesterday, well just say that. It wasnt really a christian place i went to but was in the mountains and we had to pray before everymeal. They brought in an oldvtrio of christian singers for us and that was uncomfy. I guess it is what you make of it like anything else. Overall i had no choice i had to go so it was fucked from the begining. But, i did squeeze a little it of help out of it. Mostly looking at the guys who were on 5th 6th trip to rehab and i vowed that wouldnt be me. And it hasnt. My desire to dribk has been lifted so now its cleaning up some rough edges and ill be hgood. My daughter was 6 months old when the split happened and they went to Wyoming and i went to rehab. Ive seen her tons since then but last 2 summers havent worked out so its been too long but im moving there clean and sober and im gonna live my life. Ive been caught in recovery a long time but i think recovery is a lifelong process. Thats all from me, lol. Still long but hopefully legibale
 
No worries my friend, I just glad to hear you are okay. How sre things going for you with your living arrangements these days? Is it as shitty as it was a little while ago when we exchaged those pms?
 
Yeah, there shitty alright. No water for almost 3 months. My touet is clogged. I worked on in today but to fush you have to carry a bucket of water up fr tank. 3rd one starts t hurt and i give up. Whenever the umbers come their gonna have to look at it. My ostomy is lquid and just tp which i dont use a lot of. 2 new guys in the house. One is n couch and he was staying in sober house and all the sudden hes on cuch chugging a bear at 9:30am. Other dude just got out of prison. Great days here. Im so glad my buddys letting me come over and shower. I went over to help him work and he got closr and said go grab some clothes and come take a shower...you stink, lol. I did too. Ridiculous im paying same rent but that might change. This prison guys got his shit together. He says shes gonna knock off rent for this water shit cause i work 12 hr days and i earned a shower so well see. She shuda dipped rent a long time ag but shes a crook. Says she has like 2300$ in bils and ony has 900$. Bullshit. She gets disability and wrks ceaning nice huses like 300$ jobs. Plus our rent. Shit. I never thought a pipe busting could take this long. It shoulda been fixed that week at the latest. Anyway, another long one but my typeboard isnt in fish lens anymore so hopefully it was legibale. Im looking for a way out of here but everythings in the ghetto. Ill find a way, i always do??
 
Sorry to hear it man, I hate fucking shittu ass landlords like that. Scum of the earth I tell you, preying on whomever they can and whining and bitching and moaning desperately tryin to manipulate the fuck out of people who really don't have any other options. It is fucked up. People like deserve, well, you know :\
 
toothpastedog said:
I have so come to understand why they tell you not to date anyone in your or their first year of recovery. . . Oy vey! 8) ;)
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Here here. I waited seven years since my ex fucked my life up beyond recognition emotional, relationship with my son wise, self worth wise, and finally intense bitterness. I didn't want to bring a girl into a life that she would be dealing with a cold distant person with little care for the feelings of women, especially those that cry wolf and lie to cops in order to get you kicked out of your house for "unfounded domestic violence" which led to her taking my son. That sent me on a downward spiral real quick. I am finally sober and waited a year to get my head straight before I started dating, and I must say I am very happy with the woman I am with. She is so good to me.

Yeah Its a prison thing, I guess its like a sleight of hand that lets you steal off their trays. I kept telling him if he is hungry there is always seconds. It is new York rehab...they make you get foodstamps in order to feed you while you are in.

Ive been caught in recovery a long time but i think recovery is a lifelong process.
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Closeau this is so true. It took me a long time to accept the fact that I am going to have to work at this for the rest of my life in order to change my behaviors enough that I may not have to be on guard on my deathbed. I also had a pipe burst in the middle of winter in syracuse. I went away for a weekend and asked my neighbor to come by and run all the faucets and showers for ten minutes twice a day. I came back and I had a skating rink in my basement, and Icicles dangling from every faucet.

Sorry to hear it man, I hate fucking shittu ass landlords like that. Scum of the earth I tell you, preying on whomever they can and whining and bitching and moaning desperately tryin to manipulate the fuck out of people who really don't have any other options. It is fucked up. People like deserve, well, you know
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There are so many slum lord landlords out there. I hear its really bad in arkansas because you can be put in jail for not paying rent, and there is no real advocate for renters.
 
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