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What substances can be most comparable, in effects, to these?

zapytanie

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Hi everybody!

I am new on this forums, and actually I'd like to ask you about such a question.

Which substances can be most comparable and similar to the two following stuffs:

1) MJ (I have never done it, as it is still illegal),
2) "standard" serotoninergic psychedelics ?

I mean mostly the legal or even pharmaceutical ones.

The substances I have known to have some sort of "strange", it means some
sort of psychedelic, effects contain:
- dextromethorphan (the doses above 7 mg/kg of body weight aren' tolerated by me),
- zolpidem (it once works, once it doesn't),
- some SSRIs in quite high dose,
- salvia (chewed, rather not much powerful however),
- HBWR seeds (even 2 seeds gave me quite an abnormal state of mind, it's really powerful stuff, but not necessarily pleasant).

All of them were/are totally legal in my Country when I was taking them, although some of them are currently no more legal.

I have not ever done anything illegal.

It is obvious that every substance has its own specific effects. But you know, you can compare some of them to each other. And maybe some combination can give them so (beware on the DXM-zolpidem combination, it can cause lunatism (sleepwalking) and it is surely not a situation you would like you to put in...)..

Ah, the last question:
3) Are effects of the psychedelic shrooms similar to the HBWR effects? I mean mostly the "mental" effects (the change of perception etc). I have read that some ppl do not get any visuals from serotoninergic psychedelics, I am probably among them.

Have a nice day, cheers!
Z. :)
 
why is your user name question? haha...I know where u r from and supposedly possession of MJ for personal use will soon be legal there. Nothing pharmaceutical that I know compares to MJ. Zolpidem is crap unless u use it as an actual sleep aid. Most things u tried are crap. U have to understand that the reason drugs become illegal is because they are good. Most illegal things are worthless for getting high, cuz if they were, guess what, they would be illegal.

I would either drop the whole trying to get high off of legal stuff or take actual drugs.
 
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That is a good one, for cannabis it seems to many users - but unfortunately lots legal herbs just don't come close to the real thing.
LSA-containing seeds are often used as a substitute for illegal drugs but many find there are downsides to it that make it inferior.
In general you would need to look for natural products, though generally those are also made illegal or they are quite mild. There are not that many exceptions to that, Salvia is legal but it's highly atypical. Kratom is also legal but it's hardly psychedelic, it's like a little less strong opium with many nice qualities.

Honestly I had to read your post 5 times to get a clear idea of what you're asking. But what you are looking for is a hard thing to find because most legal stuff is just not as good as illegal stuff. Some come very close, so I'm going to let this thread stay open for a little while longer for people to mention them... but often when a substance is worthwhile it starts drawing attention and can easily become illegal just for being an effective recreational drug.
If you look at the following other threads, there aren't many very effective ones that are also legal, and it depends on where your living what the legal status is. Expect this thread to be closed soon.

read this and this

Remember that there are certainly illegal substances you won't soon get in much trouble for that are also not bad for your health nor addictive. 2C-B comes to mind.
 
I think it's time to try something illegal. Make the step. It's a nice place to be and getting high off of legal shit can be really shitty.

Nothing beats LSD, nothing.
 
Thank you very much for all your answers.

Well, I avoid illegal activities for one simple reason - I don't want to risk anyhow. Generally I think, as you all supposedly too, that that sort of crime is absurd... But nevetheless it's still a crime and it can give you really bad results... :/

But actually, the legal stuff is usually legal due to its lack of the most desirable recreational properties... :/ :(

Well, my writing style can be possibly quite atypical to you, as I'm not a native English speaker... ;) :P


why is your user name question? haha...I know where u r from

Haha, I had expected that I will meet somebody who'll know what my nickname means, but not necessarily so quickly... :D ;)


and supposedly possession of MJ for personal use will soon be legal there

Hope you are right!8) =D


Once more thanks for the answers and links, I'm going to read that content soon.

Cheers
 
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