what psyche's can fit in a sugar cube?!?

[Psyke]

I've recently ingested 10 sugar cubes interspersedly over the period of around 4 months. They were said to be LSD. I think not.
Every time i tripped it was like this peculiar, light trip never with any visuals. There was never really much mindfuck with whatever was in these cubes, even though one friend proclaimed amazing visuals.

So obviously it's impossible to ask you guys to start making guesses at what RC or psych i've been ingesting but that's not what i'm asking.

My question is what psyche's can possibly be in sugar cubes?
LSD obviously, except it just isn't LSD.

WHich also leads me to the question, why would people choose sugar cubes as a LSD vessel? if it was acid it would've been simpler and more legitimate to just use blotter.

I'm guessing any water-soluble RC like 2c-e/i could easily be dropped in but i had absolutely no visuals every time using these.
Any suggestions?

 

[mollycoddled]

if these are regular sized sugar cubes you could put all kinds of chemicals that are totally different from eachother in there. If it was lsd in there, 4 months is a long time to just hold them without proper storage. Did you have them in a freezer sealed up away from light and oxygen? Cause lsd degrades really fast when exposed to heat light and oxygen. But much more likely somebody found a cheap deal on an RC and just made a bunch of sugar cubes cause people have seen lsd on sugar cubes before and you can fit a lot of shit in there if want to.

 

[Solipsis]

DOX is a possible suspect, but with the right solvent you can make very concentrated solutions of other psychedelics. Where to draw the line I do not know but the bigger the dose is of a compound the less likely you are to get it on a sugar cube that is not half-dissolved.
If the cube is pretty intact then it is LSD in low dose or degraded or DOX, I would think.

 

[Psyke]

thanks for the reply,
By 4 months i meant i made multiple purchases from him, spaced out over those months. Whenever i was waiting on them i had them tin foiled, then put in a air-proof plastic container, then placed in the freezer.
Yeah i agree a lot of rc's could've been placed on the cubes....
A little specificity would be nice though,
i.e can DOx compounds be dissolved in water and placed on a sugarcube?

edit: nevermind, you just answered the Dox thing; and yes the cube was completely intact and solid

and personally, i'm highly doubtful of LSD unless it was really only like 20 mics each or less..... I took 4 cubes one time and all i got was like this buzzing tripping feeling for 8 hours and definitely a change in thought processess, but not LSD-like.

 

[Solipsis]

I don't see why not, in fact the DOB that I have is on sugar cubes.

 

[Sega420]

well considering DOx's arent really all that common on the street, and sugar cubes have to be the WORST method for storing acid,
as it degrades faster,
along with the fact you'd most likely taste an RC in the cube, as well as it would be a pointless hassle getting an RC, breaking it down into solution, and dosing sugar cubes with it.

it sounds to me like you just got shit acid/was degraded to a lower dose when you ate it/ your friend got fresher cubes. you may never know.

maybe ingest more next time, closer to the time you bought it at?
no offence OP but this is in league with "OMG I WAS SO HIGH, MY WEED MUST BE LACED".

from this thread you dont seem to me like the type who has enough experience with acid to be able to tell the difference if i was to give you lsd one day and psilocybin the next.


theres a reason people prefer blotter and liquid to sugarcubes as a means of distribution.
not just the legal one of weight when caught.

 

[helium-4]

These type of threads are not allowed. Please read the rules. No one can tell you what substance was on your substrate besides a lab with chemicals analysis machines.

Sounds like they were just low potency cubes to me. Buy from someone you can trust next time, or find some blotter.

 

[Solipsis]

This thread is indeed very borderline. As a disclaimer it should be made perfectly clear that we can't tell you what it was, especially not conclusively...

but for general knowledge I don't find it such a rule-breaking question to wonder about what the biggest doses would be that can fit on a sugar cube. There has to fit more on it than on a regular blotter hit so DOM becomes a possibility while DOM blotters are - I think - rare to absent (unless there are multi-play huge blotters?).

But I doubt that a 2C-X would fit on a sugar cube, it would be a little silly to put one on them but much more silly things than that happen.

Why is a sugarcube the worst method of storing LSD? I would be interested to hear a reason why it differs from blotterpaper as a carrier.

 

[Psyke]

my question is not whats in it, but What psyches can possibly be stored on a sugarccube? and why would they be on a sugar cube?
As usually i deal with blotter. I guess it was somewhat of a crap shot question and i will take down the post immediately, especially seeing as i apparently can't tell the difference between LSD and a goddamn tryptamine.

sorry for the inconvenience

edit: and thanks solipsis for actually discussing the question, maybe i won't take down the thread yet? tell me if i should though mod

edit2:

it would be a pointless hassle getting an RC, breaking it down into solution, and dosing sugar cubes with it.

why would it be pointless? RC's are cheaper and easier to obtain. A dealer trying to make some cash could easily dissolve some 2c-i in some distilled water and dose out a couple of cubes for sale

 

[3rd_I_blind]

Why is a sugarcube the worst method of storing LSD?

- Sugarcube contains/attracts water
- Sugarcube is essentially a bacteria's wet dream...bacteria degrade acid like nothing else!
- Sugarcube always contains tiny amount of air, so more prone to oxidation
- It's just shitty
- Blotterart rocks! %)

 

[Psyke]

^happy 50th post bluelighter!

Yes i agree, what is with people using sugar cubes these days? it's just suspicious as to what they are trying to hide if they can't fit it on just a normal flying pig blotter!

wonder about what the biggest doses would be that can fit on a sugar cube. There has to fit more on it than on a regular blotter hit so..

precisely why i decided to post my original question.

 

[3rd_I_blind]

^happy 50th post bluelighter!

Thnx!
Not sure how to celebrate...
Ah hell, just opened up a 7yr old Havana Club, should be plenty of celebrate inside.
Anyone wanna join?

As for the topic and the sugarcubes.
In the Netherlands it's 95% blotter, 4.95% liquid and 0.05% pure crystal.
No cubes here, thank god.
I do know that empty sheets (blotter) can be pricey if you are not connected.
So perhaps it's just the cheapskate way of producing hits of acid.
...as it is also cheapskate to make hits worth 25 mics instead of the real deal.

Seems like somebody got fucked with a sugarcube, now that's a whole new fetish alltogether.

 

[Sega420]

it's just suspicious as to what they are trying to hide if they can't fit it on just a normal flying pig blotter!

unless you are involved with a lab, you wont be laying lsd onto blotter sheets.
it doesnt work the same if you simply drop liquid acid onto individual blotter paper squares on blank sheets.

3rd_I_Blind, whats the lucy like in holland?
i should be travelling there within the next month or so so it would nice to know what to expect

 

[Psyke]

Count me in on the Havana

Sugar cubes are averaging about 50% of the dose around here...

Thats why good ole fashioned mushrooms always treat me best, you can't really fake psilocin/psilocybin mushies!

LSD is just generally getting worse and worse as this years go on IMHO,

5 years ago even it seemed like it was a whole lot easier to find legitimate sized doses.

ehh maybe i should just move on out to california,
where the blotter is serene,
and the sugarcubes are no-where to be seen

 

[3rd_I_blind]

3rd_I_Blind, whats the lucy like in holland?

Currently, the market is somewhat flooded with medium dosed hits.
Think about 60-100 mics per hit, often sold as 150-200 mics.
Of the last 6 sheets I bought, only three were satisfactory and only one was actually decently dosed (150-170 mics per hit).

Hypothetically speaking, if you already found Lucy, you could always contact me.
That way I could let you know what that particular print should contain, I am usually well-informed about the most abundant designs.
This is in no way meant to imply I could supply anything for you, but I do have access to test results from the official laboratory.

 

[3rd_I_blind]

where the blotter is serene,
and the sugarcubes are no-where to be seen

On the Q.T. and very hush-hush.

 

[Solipsis]

Well sugarcubes may be a bad carrier - I agree with the negatives, but it became popular (if I am not mistaken) as a short-term carrier for a liquid dose.

I think there shouldn't be much of a problem if the cube is wrapped in aluminum foil and put into a baggy which is often what is done with blotter as well. I also heard that putting LSD on candies doesn't result in a noticeable degradation, so the negatives are not that heavy.

Another thing is that blotter is not casually laid hence carriers like candy or even bubblegum.

I don't see why you can't drop a hit of liquid on a piece of normal paper and let it dry and I am not trying to defend anything, but I can see how it does happen and how other compounds are put on similar carriers (like 4-AcO-DMT in gummybears, that I have heard of).

Then again I have to agree with sega420 that there is little basis to go on that I read in the OP that it is not just acid. No mindfuck can definitely be an effect of LSD (especially a weak dose) and the same for lack of visuals. You would more to go on like an amphetamine like effect and definite bitter taste.

Now that we have discussed possibilities and plausible motives as well as the (un)likelyhood of you having acid, a DOX or highly improbably other things... I don't see a point left to the thread.
If anyone else does, shout.