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What pisses you off when your rolling?

Orpheus420, have I pushed a button for some reason? Not feeling the love anymore huh?
"Check your drugs or your headspace" refers to the fact that without testing your pills many people taking "ecstasy" are highly likely to be ingesting many chemicals other than MDMA, thus may be less likely to feel "loved up" and empathetic towards others, not unlikely, just a possibility of less likely.
Seeing as the most widely reported experience is the psychological effect of entactogenesis and empathogenesis, and the very promising results in the psychotherapeutic tests conducted with MDMA all point to people experiencing a state of mind where themselves and others are accepted instead of judged and rejected, maybe if your finding yourself more annoyed at your surroundings or the actions of others, then maybe there is a possibility your drugs or your dosage ain't what they could be.

Should you like a dj you normally wouldn't or have no hangups when pilling?

That is up to you, which was the whole point of my post, your point of view is your own creation, you have the power to make it what you choose. I was trying to inject some balance into what started out as a light hearted thread, which has at times turned into people getting shitty with others who don't share and follow a particular unwritten cultural behavior, and even gone so far as to stating contempt for people who choose to use other forms of drugs.

"I appreciate a good conversation and even some disagreement man, but calling me slow-witted or getting bad drugs does little to further that convo and respect what I know about the drug.."

I appreciate good conversation as well my friend, I do not recall calling you or anyone else slow-witted.
I have the utmost respect for all beings free will, everyone has the right to do whatever they wish, my wish is to share idea's and thoughts that assist people in realising their unlimited potential to create whatever it is they choose and not feel disempowered.
You may know plenty about your drugs, there may be many here who don't.
I did get the impression from some posts that there were some people who saw some things outside of themselves as possible to make or break their night. Again, just trying to inject some different thought into the mix, maybe give people a different idea they may not have had before which they can then use to enhance their enjoyment.
I'm just sharing my idea's like everyone else, I don't see you pulling anyone else up in this thread for pushing their point of view. Is that because maybe they share the same perspective as you?

Everyone has different idea's matey, and I'm quite used to it!
Use your drugs however you like, I never tried to tell you or anyone else it had to be any particular way, after all... its your experience, made completely unique by your own mind. Its always your choice! ;)
 
^^^^ i get that one too - Music is enhanced so much on Es and when im wrecked after so much dancing i like nothing more than to sit down and just take it all in; listening to the music - its great!
 
Personally, I've never felt anger or frustration while under the influence of MDMA. However, there are a couple of things that can get a little annoying, although they don't really affect me in any way worth bothering about.

The first is when people ask you if you're OK. I can understand where this is coming from; if you're sober and see someone lying on a sofa, their eyes rolled back into their head and gurning like a madman, it's justified. But I like to tell these people not to ask that question, as I'm about as far from OK (in the positive direction) that you can get.

Here's an example of the second:

Me: "Helllloooo :)"
Them: "You shouldn't be taking drugs!"
Me: "Why not? :) :) :)"
Them: "They'll KILL YOU!"
Me: "Mmmmmmmm, I love you :)"

I basically try to ignore what these people tell me, although I do feel a bit guilty because they're worried about me. I want them to have a good night, and don't want them worrying about what I'm doing. They cannot give me advice, having followed government 'facts' about drugs, and also having never taken ecstasy themselves.

The third would have to be going out into the cold, to look for some girl's friend because she's just had a fight with her boyfriend. It doesn't help when she's a huge drama queen and I can't understand why people are having arguements; they should be loving each other! I had to waste a peak like that.

tathra, I get that too! But it's because my friends don't take drugs, and they won't listen to what I say to them either. I admit that most of it's just E-tarded gibberish mixed with "I love you!", but it's nice to actually have people to talk to when you're feeling all sociable.

But in saying that, I'm not that bothered; they're missing out and if they ever want to try something then I hope they'll come to me. I actually enjoy spending time all cabbaged and lying in a chair, eyes closed and just feeling the music beating through my entire body, as though I'm actually moving backwards and forwards rapidly with every beat.

One thing that annoys me, is my own behaviour. I really need to stop talking complete shit, and doing crazy things that need explanations in the morning. I almost feel weird about it, but after reading a few threads in Ecstasy Discussion, I realise that it's OK.

Damnit, now I'm even more excited about the next time I'll be dropping. Must try to act relatively normal, must make it a useful experience! BLARGH!! :)
 
  • I HATE when your trying to dance your arse off and some fuckwit is standing there in the middle of the floor, invading your space, not even dancing. Just being in the way of everyone who wants to dance hardstyle. That annoys me so fucken bad.
  • When I'm rolling mega hard and then all of a sudden someone keeps interfering with my roll. IE: They keep asking me questions when I'm trying to be in my dream world - Annoying!
  • If I'm with friends and one of them doesnt look like there having fun but says they are! - Thats annoying! - Because then I keep thinking they arnt.. Hehe.

shals :D
 
I thought about this some more....while I was on 2 White Ladies and a Power Symbol :) ........ When I'm truly and categorically FUBAR....as I like to be sometimes....NOTHING pisses me off - EVER! Peace....
 
"I was trying to inject some balance into what started out as a light hearted thread, which has at times turned into people getting shitty with others who don't share and follow a particular unwritten cultural behavior, and even gone so far as to stating contempt for people who choose to use other forms of drugs. "

That's fine...Originally what I thought what you were trying to do was tell anyone going over your line that they were wrong and should just be happy...I was more under the impression that you believed everything and everyone should be loved whilst under the influence of MDMA..I am also a strong believer in people's freedom to enjoy what substance they want in what kind of environment they want, so it seems we see evenly on that..

"Seeing as the most widely reported experience is the psychological effect of entactogenesis and empathogenesis, and the very promising results in the psychotherapeutic tests conducted with MDMA all point to people experiencing a state of mind where themselves and others are accepted instead of judged and rejected, maybe if your finding yourself more annoyed at your surroundings or the actions of others, then maybe there is a possibility your drugs or your dosage ain't what they could be."

And I can totally see your point on this as well, I just feel it can vary strongly from person to person...For someone like me, who is very into and dedicated to the music at an event, having preferred specific genres or dj's playing greatly enhances my enjoyment and fulfillment levels...Hearing music I don't like in length can do the opposite and decrease my euphoria..I think many people have a specific thing(s) that could fuck with their mood no matter how empathetic they might be..Whether or not that bothered them long depends on the person..
 
I hate it when people bump into me, and just ignore the fact I was standing there.

I can't stand drunk people if I'm not drunk. Like when rolling.

I don't like those people that just stare at me. Girlies are ok, but the dudes staring just weird me out.
8(

I don't like it when people just keep talking to me. I like to be alone, and feel the roll, not talk about something I really don't care about.

I like having room to dance.

I hate it when I'm not at a party, and I forget what I was just thinking about. Especially when I'm in the middle of a conversation.

I hate talking to cops. 8)

I know there's more, but I try to limit my anger.
 
Orpheus420, dude, I really really enjoy seeing how far I can push my mind in any way I can, I really enjoy experimenting on myself with lots of drugs of many kinds and observing the different perspectives.
Wether or not for this or some other reason, or a combination of these and many others, I get very excited and passionate about anything that really takes my interest.
My biggest interest and what I feel happiest doing in my life, the thing that motivates and drives me, is the constant attempts, partial successes and often complete failures, to try and convey idea's which cannot be conveyed within the boundaries of spoken or written language.
I look at the world and I see that so many creatures capable of creating any reality they wish, all equally capable of infinite joy and loving acceptance, always repeating the experience of feeling isolated and alone from the greater part of themselves, always struggling, and only ever as far away from true freedom as a single choice to decide to stop living with the illusion of separation, and simply widen the way they choose to perceive life. Just making the choice to at all times be aware of your own thoughts and actions and observe their effects with nothing but total subjective honesty, being willing to give up the concepts of right and wrong, and thinking purely in terms of what works, or what doesn't work for you as an individual, as right and wrong is always a subjective judgement and exists only as a limiting man made idea which can be changed at will.
So, as you can see, I get excited when having a flow of idea's I feel sometimes need to be let out or I'll explode.
I do understand that this can make my writing at times appear very blunt and lacking in sensitivity, sometimes coming across as sounding like I am dictating how things are to people, leaving no room for their free will.
I apologize for coming across like I was having a go at people, I like to think that everyone who uses drugs like mdma should in all likelihood of having a total life changing and liberating experience.
Its not that I think people have to, it is, (just forgive my seeming cheesiness) what I honestly and sincerely wish all people have a chance to experience. After feeling connected to all life, feeling true love, my (not so hidden) agenda has been to always be looking out for ways in which to connect with others in the most meaningful ways I can, and if possible in any way help out in assisting their own journey of self discovery, and simply remind people they are not alone, we are all one big human family.
Blah blah blah... sorry for going motor mouth on you, have been up all night on some damn fine Shaboo....
This is all a round about way of saying that I'm glad we butted heads mate, because through a little misunderstanding, we worked on refining the message to get to the true meaning, and in the process we got to share a little of our thought about who we are as individual self creations.
If you were here with me I could just say all the above through a non verbal communication with more meaning and give you a hug.
I really could go on all night you know.... PLUR, my friend thanks for sharing this thought process with me. :)
 
I hate when some person I was just introduced to starts tell me his life story like it's the most interesting shit in the world. I have no interest in listening but I am way too polite to hurt the person's fellings by telling them to scram. Total Piss Off #1!
Another thing that bugs me is when i am sitting around chillin' and people asks "why aren't you dancing?" Maybe because i don't want too? do I need a reason? ERRRR!:X
 
the only thing i dont like about rolling is rolling i hate rolling but i love the come down at a party i cant dance the whole
time im rollin but as soon as i start to come down i cant stop i mean i love to eat illz but never liked rolling only the comdown kinda strange heh but yup thats iit
 
nobody has mentioned the obvious so far....COPS.

MAny times, they just come in to break up fights in clubs on SOBE, but it still gets to me. Its about the only thing that does (or used to, Im an old fart now and havent pilled in a couple years) get to me.

Just read this thread for nostalgic reasons. Im actually thinking about coming out of retirement at my buddy's bachelor party, well see.
 
This thread was amusing. Almost makes me wanna post more often in here again :)
 
When you are glowsticking with a 1' in mouth glowstick and a broken electric glowstick and some girl who has never glowsticked is just holding onto a $20 tri colour photon (it's in her pocket, she takes it out and stares at it every 30 min or so).
So she holds on to this thing until i come down and then she wants me to say please and i'm sorry for wanting the glowstick that I helped my friend order. She will give it to me if i only say i'm sorry.
So i drink some alcohol because i can't afford any more pills to redose. When the buzz kicks in i find it funny to just flick her and her boyfriend off and throw bottle caps at them.

They ruined the whole roll party with their fighting, her freaking out, her almost having an orgasm to glowsticking (I am not exagerating or kidding at all 8o ) and her telling everyone every single detail of her life starting at age 5.
Her boyfriend went around and wanted everyone to fix her.

When the sun comes up my friend figures out that he had like 6 electric glowsticks in his leather coat 8(
 
I hate it when someone is right by you and just keeps blowing there whistle as loud as they can right by your ear. You just want to take that shit out of there mouth and crush it.
 
dr. greenthumb said:
i wouldnt put glowsticks in your mouth man. what happens if they explode.... they glow dude.
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nah i had it in a mouthguard... i meant it was a 1 inch glowstick from a mouthguard thing and i was using it to glowstick... It was a pretty pathetic excuse for a glowstick but it looked cool to me at the time :)
 
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