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What makes us crave opioids so much out of any other drug(s)???

Opiates are often my drug of choice, but I don't "crave" or obsess over them like I do with stimulants. Even during withdrawal, there is no jones-ing. But the opiate high has elements of all my favorite drugs. It's relaxing like benzos and boosts imagination/creativity like psychedelics or weed and even has a slight stimulant effect during the peak. Then there's that lovely opiate warmth that is unique to this wonderful family of drugs.

Damn. Now I want some hydro.


Yeah the "cravings" for opiates and stimulants are quite different. Usually opiate urges don't come with the incredibly strong, almost compulsion, to use like in the case of stim cravings. This is why the mental aspect of IV coke addictions, crack, meth, etc, is so powerful.
 
Depends on the person, just like with any drug. But it opiates do cause a spike in dopamine that is not possible for the brain to do on it's own. So that's obviously a huge factor. But so do stims and I do cocaine on occasion but I don't really like it. I feel awake and euphoric for a bit but then it just makes me feel really anxious and almost like I'm having a panic attack, then on the come down I turn into a bitch haha. It helps me wake up though and it goes well with opiates.
 
you obviously have not tried opiates or experienced the warm blanket and rush it gives. removing all anxiety from social situations, making everything shitty in life just OK. but you defintly wouldn't know because you have literally the exact opposite of opiates, taking unheard of doses of nalterxone for what? a placebo effect? now i know the warm nods are just temporarily and you have to deal with your problems at some point, but opiates have been just short of a miracle to some people with actual pain.
 
i was in bed in WD earlier when i read this post. i couldn't even respond to it, though i read all the responses. i got a small of H at 7:30 this evening and did half (saving the other half for tomorrow morning) and now i can respond.......and that pretty much sums it up for me... 8(
 
I think it really comes down to personal body chemistry. Euphoria is only one possible side effect of opiates.

From Wikipedia:

Common side effects (of hydrocodone) include dizziness, itching, lightheadedness, disturbing nightmares, nausea, sweating, drowsiness, constipation, vomiting, and euphoria.

Like any side effect, not everyone will experience it. My friends look at me like I'm crazy when I describe how perfect and complete opiates make me feel...all they get is sick and dizzy.

It's not as simple as endorphins = opiates = happiness. People have argued with me about that, but it's just not true that opiates are THE pleasure drug. But those of us who enjoy them tend to REALLY enjoy them :)
 
i agree with that... this gonna sound ridiculous but i originally thought that you couldnt get addicted to weed because i could control how much i smoked. but now that i have to quit because of legal issues im like "holy fuck, im not invincible to addiction".
 
Opioids produce feelings which I can describe as divine and wonderful. When I have dosed an opioid other than my normal regimen of 100 mg tramadol three times daily, I feel like all of the bad in the world cannot harm me, like anything but the great feelings of the opioid and enjoying those feelings is not important for me to be well. They have a way, too, of making the beautiful in the world to seem even better, yet make the bad seem harmless in a subjective sense. They make me feel as if I am at the best place I could ever be - a feeling of complete peace. They kill discomfort, whether it be physical pain or emotional pain of whatever sort. For example, they will obliterate, in a way so different than any other drug, the anxiety that I might otherwise feel, even if warranted. They do provide a sort of a protective blanket feeling, because pain just does not register as pain, and to know one will just feel great is so comforting within itself. Opioids make me feel so special, too, which I know must sound odd, but they make me feel truly okay; they feel to me to be 'where it's at'. It is as if opioids are the best thing in the world, from how my personal feelings work. They also give the great ability to nod - so placid a state, sometimes with nice and vivid imagery, all of which tie back into their appeal for me. Opioids are probably the only drugs I would say I love, and I would be right. I 'love' many others, but I have the wonderful love one has for another person for opioids, and those are the only drugs I feel quite that way about. One will never quite understand why a junkie is a junkie until he tastes the love of an opioid - opioids are just different, I feel. This is not my best description, but I am tired and worn.
 
On opiates and opioids, life is ''lighter'', a problem that I'm willing to tackle. When not opiated, problems intimidate me, people are evil, my body is kind of ''in the way'' and hinders my mind. I don't ''crave'' opiates, but most of the time I feel like I need them - if it makes any sense.
 
Opiates, specifically heroin, were just the drugs that happened to reach in and grab me deep. For some it's meth or crack that does that, whatever.

I just fell in love with H and that's that. We were magnets on collision course.
 
Not all of us use opiates or heroin to cover up life problems. For some people, they are used to cover up pain, and find that the lovely opioid molecules also have great recreational value. There is no risk-averse response for those of us in pain, as cessation would be worse than the side effects of the medications/H. It is possible to have your cake and eat it too..till your tolerance increases, anyway.
 
I think it's because opioids mimic natural endorphins that are released during feel-good activities like sex, accomplishing shit, and positive social interactions. Not to mention it exites dopamine (greater effects of dopamine), like so many other drugs(amphetamines, coke) at the same time that it saturates your opioid receptors.

Good luck to you man
-Chief Treef

opiates/oids do not mimic natural endorphins and other inert chemicals, they instigate and release an exuberant amount to create a warming euphoric feeling. what is so goood about this, is that with practice meditating/praying and doing yoga those very same chemicals and then some are released, free of charge and harm!

i swears it, once i discovered this for myself, i was able to kick a prescription to clonopin and oxy for severe legitimate chronic pain cold turkey. the point of acquiring that state of mind besides the pleasurable sensation is the insight into life and yourself that comes with it.


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it is your natural state of being when allowed.
 
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