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What made you find faith, or what turn against it?

I can’t fully articulate what exactly I want to say about this yet.. but I actually really like this question.
For now, I’ll say this.
During the many times in my life where I have felt completely hopeless, empty, full of rage, or knocking on death’s door (literally).. I always seemed to find strength I didn’t know I had in me. The kind of strength you find when you’re put in one of the “give up or give in” situations.
Where did it come from?
I’m not sure.
Sometimes I feel like it’s my guardian angels. Sometimes I feel like it’s “God” (not the god I was forced into knowing as a child/teen, but a God that makes sense to me). Sometimes I feel like it’s the ocean air. Sometimes I have no explanation.
Either way. I’m always grateful.. even if I don’t always seem like it.
I don’t think I need to label it, personally.
I’m okay with not knowing.
The “feeling” is far more important to me.

❤️
 
pixies+ said:
I can’t fully articulate what exactly I want to say about this yet.. but I actually really like this question.
For now, I’ll say this.
During the many times in my life where I have felt completely hopeless, empty, full of rage, or knocking on death’s door (literally).. I always seemed to find strength I didn’t know I had in me. The kind of strength you find when you’re put in one of the “give up or give in” situations.
Where did it come from?
I’m not sure.
Sometimes I feel like it’s my guardian angels. Sometimes I feel like it’s “God” (not the god I was forced into knowing as a child/teen, but a God that makes sense to me). Sometimes I feel like it’s the ocean air. Sometimes I have no explanation.
Either way. I’m always grateful.. even if I don’t always seem like it.
I don’t think I need to label it, personally.
I’m okay with not knowing.
The “feeling” is far more important to me.

❤️
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Indeed. 'Spiritually' is a very personal concept which is sullied by organised religion.

Believe what you want, but don't push your indoctrinations on me or anyone else that doesn't agree with your world view.

To the Christians out there who believe in the second coming, what do you think would happen these days if some beardy twat turned up claiming to be the son of God?

They'd be sectioned, or accused of being radicalised.


The only Second Coming I'll recognise is by The Stone Roses in 1995...


 
Just a reminder that this is NOT the lounge. It would be much more conducive to conversations and discussions if we didn't resort to making off color comments which obviously insult others beliefs. @lecroute is just trying to have a discussion, not opening the floor to a barrage of sexual innuendos. If you don't believe in any higher power I'm sure it's possible to convey that without insults and base humor.

Don't be "that" person, please.

Thanks in advance.
 
It is depicted in literature and the arts. Just look.

Being Spiritual manifests in many different shapes and forms abstractions.

Thank you Mr. @F.U.B.A.R. Always. ❤️‍🔥:cool:
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Many apologies for being 'that' person. Sometimes, I let my atheism overule my tolerance for others' beliefs.
It just depends upon how much vodka I've had... :\
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An atheists myself, I can see the humor in your comments.
But I can also see how someone might see it differently.

Thanks for the apology, which I extend to users who might feel offended or insulted.
 
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Sputnik ?

 
Monty Python's Life of Brian space ship sequence nailed it.

Too many genuine encounters and sightings , yet people are ridiculed just because it's beyond present day science. Scientists are still at the Flat Earth and Here be Dragons stage, if even that advanced.

👍😎
 
Please contribute to the Spirituality and Faith !!!

It means so much to some and so much to others.

Please let us all know your thoughts and feelings so that we can

come together and all learn from each other and the reason why we

are all here together !!! Please and Thank You kindly.
 
Sorry. I must have read @F.U.B.A.R. 's post and interpreted it in an inspiring yet a bit off of perspective that I felt deeply the passion and the depth of it to explore into.

So beautiful. 🔥

And yes it can be quite alienating also at times.
 
I was a committed athiest in high school, believing the question on the existence of an omniscient, omnipotent, and omnibenevolent God was settled. Now that I'm a little bit older and a little bit wiser I realize the truth is very rarely that clear.

What allowed God to find me is, I'd say, unique. One of my hobbies is philosophy but not the smarmy continental stuff. I enjoy listening to lectures, podcasts and audiobooks and reading papers in analytical philosophy. I was exposed to theological arguments for God such as cosmological arguments, arguments pertaining to objective morals and the biggest for me, contingency arguments. I'd be lying if I said any philosophical argument gave me enough space to "believe" in God as I don't believe this sort of argumentation can actually convince or change someone's mind on the existence of God. What it did do however is lower my barrier which eventually allowed God into my life and heart.

Shortly after I started to "feel" God in my life I started attending an eastern orthodox church in my area. There's no doubt God acts in my life and the lives of all other people.

I still wrestle with many of these theological questions. At times my faith may waiver when I am exposed to a good argument, but I can no longer deny the presence of God. I feel as if I am standing beside him at all times.

I find prompting an athiest with the question "How can something can from nothing?" can start a conversation that is usually fruitful. The layman may assume that there is a scientific question to this question. Laurence Krauss published an influential book on this topic but the sort of "nothing" Krauss talks about is actually something. So ask yourself "How can something, anything at all, come from nothing. Ex Nihilo."
 
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TheFunkeeJunkee said:
I'd be lying if I said any philosophical argument gave me enough space to "believe" in God as I don't believe this sort of argumentation can actually convince or change someone's mind on the existence of God. What it did do however is lower my barrier which eventually allowed God into my life and heart.
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Interesting.

Lawrence Krauss is known to me, but I never read one of his books. I guess you're referring to A Universe From Nothing?
 
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