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What is your favorite stimulant?

Favorite upper?

  • Methamphetamine (crystal, glass)

    Votes: 496 25.4%
  • 4-Methylaminorex (ice) -- yes, I know, I'm a freak.

    Votes: 72 3.7%
  • Cocaine! or Crack!

    Votes: 588 30.1%
  • Amphetamine (adderall, dexedrine, base etc)

    Votes: 611 31.3%
  • Methylphenidate (ritalin)

    Votes: 112 5.7%
  • RC's (Mephedrone, MDPV etc..)

    Votes: 76 3.9%

  • Total voters
    1,955
I dont know if it's just me, but after taking Dexedrine everyday, Meth doesn't really fuck me up like Dexedrine. I know the maker of it and he gives out "presents" to like everyone he knows, so I know it's very good stuff (white, ice-like rocks that break down into small little crystals) ,but I'll smoke some every now and then and it just seems so clear-minded compared to d-amphetamine, anyone else get this?
 
Negro-kitty said:
Also, if you can get CNBr, the 4-mar synth is RIDICULOUSLY easy, and better yielding than meth synths.

uhhuh, too bad you cant exact get CNBr, as it isnt suitable for storage, so you have to make it yourself, but if you dont build yourself a fume hood first, you will most likely die while making it or the 4mar :)

the risk of death while making meth is a whole lot less (i dont think you can die using the HI Reduction, unless you're really really stupid and careless), plus there's a fuckload more products available OTC that contain Pfed, while i cant think of anything offhand that contains PPA :\
 
^--- that is what i was referring too...the cyanide bromide synth step, or what ever it is, like you have to be like 150%sure you can properly do it, or you're gone.....

but we came across some 4-mar a month ago, with cleaning it we noticed a difference in the mixing of the two chems, and my buddy said that reaction was 4-mar's reaction to distilled acetone......

i had a half of that shit last like a week...........hollllllly fuck..

i duno if the first paragraph makes sense or not..not sure on the cyanide shit i was talking about either, i just know its too fuckin risky to try.
 
Let's just say, that 4-mar has been made with cnbr wihout a hood before, without causing death or harm. That's not saying it should be encouraged...but it's not as impossible as it may seem.

But like I said, I don't believe that people are using the cnbr route....because of the majority of 4-mar that I have encountered.
 
I chose amphetamines and have never tryed meth nor would I ever try meth.Just the shit I've seen used to make it doesn't seem like what I want going into my brain.

I don't know why I just love adderall.It makes me feel great I think clear I get energy and all that good shit.I've done coke but that also wasn't for me.I don't think it was that good of coke though.It made me a little paranoid it was kind of wet too I think it had a little tint of blue in it i dunno that was a while ago. well that was only my first time but it was also the only time I did it all night.Ive taken one bump here and there.One time it was real good but I came down and it sucked.So i chose never to do it.

And ya why isn't E on there.If all the rolls out there were as good as the first roll i've taken I would choose that.But the rest after my first one were never that good.so I don't roll either.
 
^^^E isn't considered a stimulant, although it does have some stimulating effects.

I would MUCH rather do Adderall or pharmaceutical amphetamines than street meth. I have atypical reactions to most substances, though, street meth has absolutely no euphoric effect on me and just makes me feel chewed up (for lack of a better way to put it). The few times I have used meth I snorted it, and I'm sure the high is substantially different when it's injected, smoked or eaten.

My vote went to cocaine... as long as it's good cocaine and doesn't reek of airplane fuel.
 
Dopamine related to "fav stimulate"

"The results of our study suggest that the DSD2 locus in involved in sex dimorphism of amphetamine dependence liability."

{1} K. Blum et al., JAMA, 263: 2055-2060, 1990
2{2} E.P. BNoble, Addiction Biology, 1:333-348, 1996
\\\\\one of many JAMAs supporting this evidence/////

SO BASICALLY,
Anytime you start dumping out a crap load of dopamine
in those pleasure/habit-forming/reproductive parts of the
brain.. i.e. the hippocamus you're going to "rush harder,"
that is to say you'll have a better body high as well as
a longer, harder experience. It's not just that people just
like stronger amphetamine-backboned drugs.. use of them
program the brain to "prefer them" and crave "need them."

TO BREAK IT DOWN FURTHER,
Meth - releases massive amounts of dopamine at many sites, triggering other reward neurotransmitters.

4-Methyl - releases less dopamine at specific sites resulting in less pleasure-seeking behavior and perceived preference.

Coke - not related to the amphetamine family but still dumps a lot of it
out. Specific sites, but sites having some of the highest habit-forming roles.

Amphetamine - just like it's relative Meth, it releases a lot of dopamine.. but alas w/o a methyl group to potentiate it's receptor ambivilance it's not as strong.

Methyphenidate - amphetamine like drug, although it does not contain a full chemical amphetamine backbone. Much less dopamine overall BUT.. activates the brain stem in very specific ways that the others do not as effectively or at all in some cases, thus
producing its trademark, smooth and concentrative effects.

The favorite stimulate poll was easily predicted. All drug use is related to brain structure, and as we know structure is related to function, drug behavior is statistically correlated with the organization of our brains.

MY PERS. FAV,
Methylphenidate/Ritalin - why?
1. less addictive potential
2. less cracked-out situations
3. can be used for school/work in a responsible manner w/o that "OMG,
I'M ON DRUGS @ WORK, ETC." thing. this does not apply to our friends at
Mickey D's or Taco Bell
4. does not almost always statistically produce "chronic abuse," a disease, premanent reprogramming almost always resulting in death
5. fun, euphoric, and available from yo' doctor

BUT, that don't mean that back in day, I wasn't the SPEED ANGEL.
 
Re: Dopamine related to "fav stimulate"

burntorangeblood said:
MY PERS. FAV,
Methylphenidate/Ritalin - why?
1. less addictive potential
2. less cracked-out situations
3. can be used for school/work in a responsible manner w/o that "OMG,
I'M ON DRUGS @ WORK, ETC." thing. this does not apply to our friends at
Mickey D's or Taco Bell
4. does not almost always statistically produce "chronic abuse," a disease, premanent reprogramming almost always resulting in death
5. fun, euphoric, and available from yo' doctor

BUT, that don't mean that back in day, I wasn't the SPEED ANGEL.

I just had to critisize some of your reasons for choosing Ritalin. All stimulants "don't" work in the same fashion depending on potentcy, people do react differently as you have proven.

Response to #2
I have NEVER heard anybody else say this before. Ritalin makes me so cracked out, it is insanity. Amphetamines make me feel the least "cracked" from the feeling. Methylamphetamine obviouslly does the most depending on dose.

Response to #3
I can study and work much better on amphetamines (Adderall, Dexedrine) over Ritalin. It doesn't make me go "OMG I'm on a drug!", nope Ritalin does that to me...especially when I'm spacing out drooling from the lip.

Response to #4
Really??? You think so? You are aware that methylphenidate is worse on the body than amphetamines resulting in a quicker death from addiction?

Response #5
So are amphetamines
 
It's basically just Meth with all it's power shoved into making you feel completely euphoric, instead of having the effects spread out all over making you hyper. So, yes MDMA is a stimulant but just a very different and special kind...
 
fav. stimulate critic

kdoudtinaz-

your experiences are subjective (as well as unusual) and so is my opinion.
it's my favorite, not yours.

do some research on method of action. please.
 
ritalin is just as addictive as dexies, adderall etc. you can abuse them just as easily and they will have the same detrimental effects on your body over time(especially if you dont eat/sleep/hydrate yourself)
 
i do agree on its unique 'smooth and concentrative effects'. the cracked out feeling from any upper regardless i think is majorly influenced by the sleep deprivation it produces.
 
Adramin -

Adramin -

Ritalin is not addictive as are amphetamine, amphetamine salts, meth, 4-MAR, etc. Swallowing it allows methylphenidate to reach the brain in
full concentration in about an hour, preventing "addiction."
Up the nose is another story.

See my post on definitions concerning addiction, withdrawl, and emotional dependence.
 
Ritalin is not as addictive because it is not as fun, but orally CAN be addictive.

burnt, you need to STOP spouting out misinformation...
 
Re: Adramin -

burntorangeblood said:
Adramin -

Ritalin is not addictive as are amphetamine, amphetamine salts, meth, 4-MAR, etc. Swallowing it allows methylphenidate to reach the brain in
full concentration in about an hour, preventing "addiction."
Up the nose is another story.

See my post on definitions concerning addiction, withdrawl, and emotional dependence.

you tell me how that prevents addiction. please. i'll be waiting.
 
It's less neurotoxic too. The only Methylphenidate I'd do is Focalin, but I've yet to hear of anyone getting it. Amphetamines are time-tested and 9 out of 10 junkies prefer them over Ritalin-based medications (just kidding!).
 
Voted for pure amphetamine, though I haven't tried meth - it isn't obtainable in my region. IMO cocaine is too expensive for such short high.
 
Negro-kitty said:
Ritalin is not as addictive because it is not as fun, but orally CAN be addictive.

burnt, you need to STOP spouting out misinformation...

backing the quote above, and the truth it contains:

first hand, i can say that ritalin is NOT additive at all, unless, you like feeling ultra depressed, then thats you......
i hated ritalin, and ill never take it again.
dexedrine, meth or 4-mar.......either, or.
 
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