What is your favorite opiate?

[Gaz_hmmmm]

Are stronger opiates/opioids really needed (I know their trying to synthesis opioids that aren't addicitve), isn't heroin strong enough for pain management or is it just pharm' companies wanna to patent shit so they can get richer?

 

[tathra]

heroin (diacetylmorphine) is schedule 1 in the US, which makes absolutely no sense... but anyway, the biggest downside to the morphine/morphinones is that they are extremely ineffective when taken orally; this is why the codinones are nice, because you can eat 'em and get off great.

as for stronger opioids, like fentanyl... i find i the pain reduction better and less side effects, plus less nodding so i can be productive as i go about my day. and the transdermal system is rather nice too.

and the research into stronger ones? well, we'll do that just for the sake of research. knowledge > all

 

[Tri-nity]

Hell

Fentanyl for me is a weird opiod.
2.5 mg of fentanyl only felt like 45mg of methadone and seems more speedeier than others.............

 

[SteveElektro]

I suspect something like oxymorphone woul get a lot more votes had many of us actually tried it (I certainly haven't), and I suspect oxycodone would get a lot less if more oxy users had done heroin.

 

[twominds]

^^^Alot of people who have voted for oxy etc would have because its the only one they use. Heroin is still feared and has a stigma about it, that goes for IV drugs in general.

 

[Tri-nity]

^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yep, a lot of people who do oxy's have no proplem snorting OC's, but bring up heroin, and they think your trash....

They don't realise and Opiate is an Opiate is an Opiate, heroin has this huge stigma to it, bring up heroin and it has a huge "shock Factor".

I havent tried smack yet, but if i did i'd propably like it alot.........just havent ran into it yet

 

[PapaverPrisoner]

The difference btwn strong opiates are less than the difference btwn our different body chemicals, if we shoot it/eat it/snort it, if we take it when we are tired, happy, sad etc. Etorphin is many times stronger than heroin, as is fentanyl, but that does not mean that the euphoria is greater, only that you need less.

Longtime junkies like myself (had my first shot 1974) have always had to use pharmaceuticals when the H is bad or scarse. But when heroin is good and plentiful ppl tend to prefer that over all other stuff. I am of course talking about i.v. use. I know that many in England was said to actually prefer Diconal to heroin, and I myself would perhaps prefer Ketobemidon if it wasn't so wildly addictive and the WD so agonizing. But otherwise heroin rules.

I have never tried oxymorphon or levorphanol, but almost all other stuff several times, and my opinion is that Heroin is number one among almost all junkies that I know. Hydromorphone gives a wonderful high for a couple of minutes after the shot, but after that the euphoria is not as good as morphine. I have never met anyone who actually prefer fentanyl to i.v. heroin. Methadone and meperidene - or pethidin as we say in Europe - are underrated; they are good when you shoot'em. Only times I take codeine is when I am sick and cannot get anything else - luckily that isn't very often. Oxycodone is much better than codeine but not as good as morphine. Tramadol isn't even worth mentioning.

 

[smakaddict]

Heroin.... by far

 

[Tri-nity]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


I have never done Heroin, sorta want to though, can't say if thats a good or bad thing, but is it really more euphoric than pharmy's and how does it kill pain to say, hydrocodone or oxy????????

 

[geographic99]

although once you start down that road, its hard to turn back... the act of injecting is more addicting than the drugs.

I'm having problems with this statement. Is this a known "fact", or is it one man's opinion? I am aware that some IV drug addicts fetishize the act of shooting up, and in the absence of drugs some junkies will supposedly shoot water. But speaking from personal experience, I was addicted to the heroin, not the needle. There is no doubt in my mind about that at all.

 

[stuffed]

^^^
word

 

[Tri-nity]

^^^^^^

I injected Oxy once, only once, and have no desire to go back to shooting.
I can see were the idea the neddle would cut down on abuse or morphine, for me it does,i dont like having to poke myself to get high when i can just crush and snort it up

 

[stuffed]

you don't have a high enough tolerance yet, eventually you will have to use needles or you won't get high, this is a fact

 

[edarrin]

I have never tried herion but I have a question for those who have. My concern is that as an occasional opiate (1-2 x/week user) that if I snorted or smoked heroin that it would render all other opiates obsolete and then would want only herion. Currently I have a low toerance and get a nice high from Oxy/benzo mix. Is this true?

 

[gablona]

I have to give hydrocodone my #1 for enjoyment purposes, there is a little extra glow others opiates dont have, but APAP sucks. Oxycodone comes in second, it is better for pain management but i dont enjoy it as much

athough tolerance does make for large doses of hydro to reach noticeable level but that doesnt remove it from the top of my list

 

[tathra]

Is this a known "fact", or is it one man's opinion?

just my opinion, i suppose, but quite a few people seem to agree with me.

 

[Gaz_hmmmm]

Why is it that the benzodiazepine poll gets closed but this stays open?

I think both should be open!

 

[Tri-nity]

^^^
ditto

 

[deviate]

i've only had hydrocodone, codiene and heroin. out of those i liked heroin the best.

 

[Sphinx]

I once synthesized Carfentanil for personal use and amongst my friends. Before I let anyone else test it I used it myself.

Started with .01mg dosage buffered with 150mg of Inositol. Worked up to .05mg dosage buffered with 150mg Inositol and found it to be the most euphoric experience of my life.

The dosage:effect ratio is out of this world. The euphoria is superior to heroin, fentanyl, and oxycodone.