What is your favorite opiate?

[kapheen']

My original vote went to oxycodone, But as of late I've decided to switch it up.

And my new vote goes tooooo...... (drum roll) POPPY TEA!!

I find it very euphoric, And the high just don't stop.

Thank you bluelight for turning me on to this wonderful high.

 

[ebeneezer_geeza]

pure diamorph 30mg amp (pharm amps) or phy 50mg amps not really sure cause they both cause different highs although the amps last way longer. both are just too nice for a short while then like most drugs they become banal and too predictible

 

[silverfucked]

and it was also reported to be used in the moscow theater raid because of its ability to cause the least deaths out of all the opioids and its extreme potentcy.

If we are talking about the same Moscow raid(terrorists took over a theatre), all the sources Ive read/heard said that fentanyl was used(which of course means shit since my sources are the news and Maxim).. Also, I thought quite a few people died/ODed because of a miscalulation or some shit.

 

[Dexter666]

It is known now that carfentanil mixed with halothane was used in the moscow raid not fentanyl as the death toll would have been much higher if it was which was why carfentanil was used as its LD-50 is much higher. It was'nt a miscalculation it was plain and simply the only way it could have worked was to use enough to knock them out before they even knew it which even if there was something even safer than carfentanil would still kill some people who are sensitive.

 

[K'dOUTinAZ]

OxyContin...haven't tried heroin, not going to.

 

[anafagodma]

Back in the day when I did do heroin, it was such crap that I always preferred the good old reliable MsCOntins our friends stole from the pharmacy truck he drove every THursday.

I remember it being different then, like even having defeated the time-release, it would last for hours. Nowadayd, I shoot and I'm absolutely loving everything for about 5 minutes, but then it's back to business as usual. With oxycontin it lasts for hours. Of course, now that I have a script for morphine (knock on wood) that could explain the difference in my experience.

 

[MattPD]

"OxyContin...haven't tried heroin, not going to."
-Just because it's a pharmie, doesn't mean it's safer. Just more standardized.

Any who, definetly junk (heroin.) Especially Chi-town junk. Economic, delicious, and always with the little bitty tiny pink flecks of God knows what. (Any Chi-town BL'er ever speculate on what the hell those are?)

Ah, I still miss that crap.

M

 

[sb twelve]

Just because it's a pharmie, doesn't mean it's safer. Just more standardized.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by this statement, but I think OxyContin is alot safer then heroin purchased on the street.

Is pure oxycodone any safer then pure diacetylmorphine? No.

Is pure oxycodone safer then the smack you buy on the street? Your goddamned right it is.

I don't think street heroin is much of a danger at all if you smoke it or snort it, but IV'ing steet drugs is just asking for trouble. I don't have any problem with IV drug use, assuming you have a nice pretty vial of some pharmaceutical dope.

 

[PGTips]

"Shit...I've only done codeine, but I liked that!"

Its cheap and cheerful :D

 

[blahblahblah]

I'm not quite sure what you mean by this statement, but I think OxyContin is alot safer then heroin purchased on the street.

Your referring to oral administration of oxy, correct?

IV usage there is no comparison... heroin is much safer hands down. Lots of the OD's associated with oxycodone involve young kids that aren't aware of the dangers involved with using strong opiates and they end up pop'n benzos along with it and then they wonder why when they are crying over there friends coffin.

People just assume that because it is legal its safe...8)

When was the last time you heard of somebody OD on a bag of street dope because of the cut. Thats what I assume you are referring to when you say oxy is safer than street dope. Both drugs are potent and can kill, it dumb people that don't know the limits of there body or simple aren't educated on drugs. i've been very familiar with heroin and the lifestyle for over a decade and I am still alive (knock on wood) Speaking from experience I have seen allot more 'physical' damage done to peoples body from oxy IV than heroin IV. They only thing that would make it less safe than oxy would be the cut, when you deal with people that sell dope for a living why would they want to harm the people that but food on his/her/their table. Granted there are unscrupulous dealers that deliver a 'hot' product but that is far and few.

I am speaking strictly about white dope, tar is a different story and is IMO dirty.

*waiting to hear, that I am babbling bullshit


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MATTPD-

Those red/pink specks are a common cut for the chicagoland area, it is a pill called Dormin (sp?). I have seen that cut pretty steadily for the past 5 years. It is just the coating of the outside of the pill cap. It dissolves readily, and most likely when you see those flecks in your dope you know everythings going to be ok i.e. good dope, with a heavy nod from the cut. i've never seen a large cutting and baging operation using Dormin, but an old hook-up used to sell grams of Karachi (Nigerian dmuggled dope, yellow rock) and with each gram he would give you Dormins to cut it with. This dope needed to be cut, it was just to strong and tell you the truth I liked the cut dope better. There is also dope floating around with blue flecks instead of red. I have heard of no health problems associated with that cut. If you are that worried about it, its ssimple to pick out the gelatin like flecks.

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In a rank from 1 to 10 how does heroin compare when snorted then injected?

its all relative to the grade of H. IV use doesn't make it more potent but it delivers a strong rush and immediate effects where snorting takes a few minutes. Snorting your heroin will actually last longer IV use tends not to hold you aka 'the sickness' as long as snorting. If you are looking for the rush IV definitely ranks much higher.

I never understood why people seem to always want something stronger than heroin, fent., i.e. super potent analogs. I mean really there is plenty of insanely strong heroin, I myself am happy with that. jl;tr'ji

 

[Dodger]

For monetary reasons I prefer hydrocodone, the others are just too much per pill........If I do have a few extra dollars to waste I opt for 3-4 demerol pills at a time. The demerol feels great and also doesn't cause me to nod off like fenatyl/oxycontin/morphine do. Having been through one withdrawl from opiods I have no desire to take opiods more than twice a week.

 

[JuniperStar]

I love them all!

 

[Tri-nity]

i dunno if anybody like me who used Opiods frequently find that at the right dose they all do the same thing, satisfy that craving and anxiety you had before.


Like I said before.....I think....LOL


Methadone,Fentanyl, and hydrocodone are my favorite.

They give me the euphoric yet slightly calmed/sedated doped up feeling............at high enough doses nodding occurs, which is not unwelcomed.......

 

[raoulduke]

Oxy is very nice sometimes when you need it. What more can I say 20mg does me good and I can stay happy on the couch for about 2 hours if I chew it.

 

[Jumbo]

My experience is strictly pharmaceutical and mostly post-surgical at that.

Several years ago, I had a hip replaced due to trauma. I've seen one of those done on cable surgery programs, and I blanched at seeing the joint literally forcibly dislocated and the patient hoisted up like a side of beef ready to butcher. When I came out of my surgery, I wanted to just about die. The pain was the most all-over, deep and intense as any I've ever had, and I've had fair bit of orthopaedic (that "ae" is for our British friends ) injuries and trauma. I had a bolus of IV morphine immediately after being put in my room, which I think was 30 ml, but whatever dose it was, the pain tore through it and kept on laughing. Pre-surgery I had requested (God I love modern medicine!) an on-demand morphine drip, which eased drop or so into my IV as quickly as every 5 minutes upon my punching a button. That was hooked into my IV and I started pushing the button like crazy.

It took about 4 hours, but gradually the pain eased, although I was pissed they didn't hit me with a larger bolus. But after my pain got under control, I could think about what a Godsend the IV morphine was. I was lucid, even stimulated, but not loopy or goofy. It was marvelously relaxing and euphoric, and I was still sharp enough to carry on pleasant conversations with several visitors only 6 hrs after they quartered me like an Angus beef. I was afraid and anxious about nothing. I began my rehab 18 hours after my surgery, using a walker to just about run down the hallway. I was truly a morphine hero and loved working my rehab hard. My family could hardly believe I'd had surgery.

I was on the IV for 48 hours, and then to IV Demerol for 72 hours. It's my own personal reaction, but that stuff is like witch's brew to me, and gives me startling and disturbing dreams, even hallucinations. But the IV morphine made me understand why people become needle junkies: it was that good.

I've also had a number of minor surgical procedures in which I was hit with Sublimaze (fentanyl) pushed in my IV. WOW! So THAT'S what a rush is like! But it's over in about 30 minutes to an hour. It's a good thing I don't work around fentanyl; I doubt I could keep my hands off it.

I'm may be having some problems with failed back surgery now. I have an interventional pain management specialist, but I have limited his work (other than some Norco 10/325s over a 4 month period) to some cauterizing of spinal nerves. I can tell from my discussions with him that I could proably ask him, and he would let me choose between Duragesic patches, methadone, or oral morphine. I'm not ready for that; I've enjoyed the so-far necessary pain therapy too much to blithely put the hammer down. But I understand the attraction of the needle and the rush.

 

[blahblahblah]

Here's one way to think about the opioid hierarchy:

Following the trend toward groups named after opiates--Codeine, Laudanum, Morphine, Opium Den--

Let's say I put together an alternative rock band. Oxycodone and Hydrocodone are okay, I guess, but this band is loud and fast so we call it Dilaudid. If we really bit the big one, a likely outcome, I'd shift the name to Demerol, a synthetic opiate 60 times less potent than Dilaudid. If we rocked the rafters, though, I'd rename the group Oxymorphone. If Oxymorphone became an overnight, arena-filling sensation like Nirvana did, I guess we'd have to switch the name to Etorphine. Synthetic dope 10,000 times stronger than morphine, etorphine's only apparent use outside the laboratory is in darts to stun elephants and hippos for capture.

 

[Gaz_hmmmm]

Synthetic dope 10,000 times stronger than morphine, etorphine's only apparent use outside the laboratory is in darts to stun elephants and hippos for capture.

Etorphine's 100x stronger.


You say outside the lab it's used to stun large animals, but what's it used for inside?

 

[blahblahblah]

When given subcutaneously M99 is 1,000 - 80,000 times more potent than morphine as an analgesic

Potency rates vary from 500 - 80,000 times more potent than morphine
http://bigfive.jl.co.za/legal_r.htm

Got me what they use it for... studies on um animals, to kill people...?

The knock-out gas used by the Russians in the Moscow theater siege (10-29-99 close date) has been identified as M99 (Etorphine) is widely and commercially available. The Russian's "secret" is that they made an aerosol spray out of M99 (normally a powder dissolved in water), converting it into a gas. Their grave mistake was that they guessed too high on what they effective dose would be.

Too much M99 causes respiratory paralysis. The muscles of your lungs and diaphragm can't move. Death from hypoxia — no air, no oxygen — comes quickly. And that's what happened to the hostages: They stopped breathing.

 

[anafagodma]

blahblahblah:
Somewhere in your post you mention 5 years. Is that how long you've been doing dope?
I ask because heroin is stronger now than it was ten years ago, and that's nationsiwde, dateline grade knowledge. Afew years ago I read an article about it, that dope had become strong enough that you could actually get off by snorting it, therefore attracting a wider circle of fans (hey, your dumb highschool kids don't exactly stop at the pills) and there was a "tragic scourge" of heroin deaths. . . OD's. From snorting.

I don't know if I'd find heroin now anymore appealing than I did back then. Chances are, it sounds like, I probably would. 10 years ago the street dope from DC and Baltimore couldn't hold a candle to the morphine and dilaudid caps we were getting, especially at the price.

ANYWAY. . .I'm not inclined to go looking for dope nowadays. Sometimes it tries to come to me. But I'm in pain management now and having to suffer while the doctor waits and sees if "15mgx 2 /day MS Contin" will help, or my generous reup to ""30mg x 2/ day"

I kind of sympathise with those who say they got into dope (I use the term broadly, including all sorts of high-grade opiates) because of the pain. Not that I believe that most of these characters weren't "medicating" to begin with, but it is really tough when you are hurting from herniated discs and spinal degeneration and the doctors don't understand that you need at least 200mg a day just to get out of bed. Because the pain.

And at the same time, you know you're addicted. Now, that sucks!

 

[blahblahblah]

Yea ana its been just about a 12 years since I first tried H, and 10 years pretty much solid on the needle. Except for 2 years on methadone and random months in rehab or jail or geographical cures (ha!). Now thank god I am having great success with Suboxone (buprenorphine) maintence treatment with a slow detox built-in.

The dope scene was slightly different back than, I haven't noticed that big of jump in potency through the years. Although the last 5 years the usage of younger kids has gone through the roof.

I think you mistook the part of my post where I said I was 'in pain', the pain in my life was just that life.

Dope fiend thru and thru.

I still have the natural urge to sample the goods and the goods are just that good...

Sorry if I confused you

I bet alot of you picture me as down and out street kid sick and ill but quite the contrary the term junky is not always 'stereotypical'.