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What is your favorite opiate?

What is your favorite opiate?

  • Heroin

    Votes: 197 23.1%

  • Oxycodone (percocet, oxycontin)

    Votes: 289 33.9%

  • Oxymorphone

    Votes: 28 3.3%

  • Demerol (meperidine)

    Votes: 8 0.9%

  • Hydrocodone (vicodin)

    Votes: 86 10.1%

  • Morphine

    Votes: 48 5.6%

  • Hydromorphone

    Votes: 40 4.7%

  • Fentanyl

    Votes: 48 5.6%

  • Buprenorphine

    Votes: 16 1.9%

  • Shit...I've only done codeine, but I liked that!

    Votes: 93 10.9%
  • Total voters
    853
vegan said:
erowid says about Fentanyl "is significantly more potent than heroin (~40x)."
does that mean it's about the same high but for a lower dose?
is the high better (40x ?!&%@#)?
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Herion is considered better because fentanyl only lasts about 2 hours.
 
EvMan717 said:
Herion is considered better because fentanyl only lasts about 2 hours.
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Well I dont know about you, but with me fentanyl lasted a lot more than just 2 hours... Heroin lasts less in my opinion.
 
This is a lil' off topic, but Etorphine.

Fen' is 80x stronger then Morphine, Etorphine is 1000x! 8o

Anyway, is it used for anything or available at all? :\
 
Thats fucking nuts!
Is it more Opiate(morphine/codiene) structure or more fentanyl/methdone synthetic opiod structure?
Is it just me or is the main purpose or one of the best is to be sedated and nod HEAVILY!
 
What about Levorphanol, highly euphoric and long lasting a perfect opioid even better than Hydromorphone or Fentanyl and very potent i might add, 4mg insuffulation does me good even less like 2mg is still enough to dope you up nice.
 
Etorphine has been replaced by Carfentanil which if you can get your hands on is even better and is very safe when compared to other opioids in fact you have to take several 100x more than an effective dose to OD and its just as good as fentanyl but much more potent from what i understand 4,000x more potent than heroin.
 
Dexter666 said:
Etorphine has been replaced by Carfentanil which if you can get your hands on is even better and is very safe when compared to other opioids in fact you have to take several 100x more than an effective dose to OD and its just as good as fentanyl but much more potent from what i understand 4,000x more potent than heroin.
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HOLY SHIT!!! 8o


Are these really needed, considering that heroin could just be used for pain management if it didn't have the whole stigma of being a street drug? :\
 
Elaborate! DEAR GOD ELABORATE!!! =D

If I find a steady supply of this drug I can give up all my plans for the future and just buy a nice mattress to put some place and lie around with that stuff in my veins ;)

No OD?? Sounds pretty fiiiiine :)

--- G.
 
Well here's what i know about carfentanil, its claimed to be 4,000x more potent than heroin although i believe it may be less like 2,000x more potent based on what i have read about it but i have not had the opportunity to sample it so i don't know but anyways it has a safety index of 10,000 whereas morphine is around 40, heroin around 30, Fentanyl 112, meperidine(demerol) scores around 6, scary considering how much its prescribed sometimes. Its effects are the same as fentanyl which is strong, fast acting,highly sedating, and extremely euphoric, although it has a shorter duration than heroin its just as good if not better. Its used to immobilize animals like the black bear and yes its used in the US its a mixture of carfentanil and Xyzaline and it was also reported to be used in the moscow theater raid because of its ability to cause the least deaths out of all the opioids and its extreme potentcy. However remember that you don't need to take a lethal dose to die as if you pass out on your back its very easy to choke on your own vomit and die so be careful if you do ever get your hands on any.
 
I'd be really careful with the opiates/opiods if I were you. Herion fucking ruined my life big time. Don't get me wrong, i loved the high very much so. But it turned me into an addict hardcore.

I'm not saying don't do them, but be careful.


PS, my username is stupid, but i've been a member for a long time and don't want to lose my date.
 
heroin......

First time I did it (snorted) blew me away....went to nod land.

I always seem to get oxy but I'm disliking it more and more. I love nodding off and it doesn't really do that....I get the itchiest too on oxy.

I like hydrocodone alot too. More stoning than oxy.
 
When i was in the hospital i had the chance to snag some carfentanyl. Still say alpha-methyl-fentanyl is more euphoric. I have never tried levorphanol, but i heard it had some kappa activity which could affect its desirability. Im sure its good though,
 
Dexter666 said:
Etorphine has been replaced by Carfentanil which if you can get your hands on is even better and is very safe when compared to other opioids in fact you have to take several 100x more than an effective dose to OD and its just as good as fentanyl but much more potent from what i understand 4,000x more potent than heroin.
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Carfentanil was never intended for human use. When you say you have to take "several 100x more than an effective dose" (which is wrong) to "OD" (is taking hundreds of times more than the effective dose not an overdose?) you fail to mention that Carfentanil, being around 10,000 times as potent as Morphine (4,000x Heroin), would only require a dose in the very low microgram (nanogram, possibly?) range to produce analgesic effects in humans. And seeing as how Carfentanil comes packaged in 40+ Milligram vials, I should think it would be unbelievably easy to overdose, with death as a possible result. As little as 20-30 micrograms can be lethal to humans.

You also mention the therapeutic index of Carfentanil is 10,000 (meaning that a lethal dose is approximately 10,000 times the dose required to have an analgesic effect). What you have forgotten to mention is that this index is only for rats, and rats, due to their body weight (and other contributing factors), appear (more or less, falsely) to show a higher chemical tolerance than other, larger animals. Convert this into human terms, however, and you will be left with a much smaller number.

Never, ever take Carfentanil. It is not the "wonder opiate" that some have made it out to be.

Also, negrogesic -- I'm curious as to which hospital you were staying in when you "snagged" Carfentanil seeing as how it is not approved for human use, and thus, would not be in any hospital (save for possibly veterinary ones). I won't insert the joke that could be made here.
 
negrogesic said:
When i was in the hospital i had the chance to snag some carfentanyl.
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Originally posted by DJ ColdFusion
I'm curious as to which hospital you were staying in when you "snagged" Carfentanil, seeing as how it is not approved for human use, and thus, would not be in any hospital (save for possibly veterinary ones).
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Still wondering, negrogesic...
 
I said that it would take several 100x not 10,000x(I am still estimating but usualy in humans the safety index is lower) more than an effective opioid dose that would of course be in micrograms and most definetly could not be used undiluted and could not be found in a hospital unless they are an animal hospital even then i doubt anyone but trained proffesional animal catchers would know where the stuff is even stored let alone have access to it.
 
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Dexter666 said:
I said that it would take several 100x not 10,000x(I am still estimating but usualy in humans the safety index is lower) more than an effective opioid dose that would of course be in micrograms and most definetly could not be used undiluted
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In this case, the consequences for "estimating" could very well be fatal. Unless one has a myriad of expensive measuring equipment (which the average person does not), they would be unable to determine a correct dose in the microgram/nanogram range. Please, in the future, do not advise anything as rash as the ingestion of Carfentanil.
 
If a person is able to get there hands on carfentanil then they should be able to get a microgram scale as just one of those carfentanil darts contains enough for 1000's of doses and if there doing a synth then well i'm sure they know the dangers and it must be diluted heavily in order for it to be safe also i clearly warned that just because you don't take what is considered a lethal dose that does'nt mean that it won't kill you in fact anything over i'd say 20x a strong dose could prove to be lethal.
 
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