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What is your favorite Opiate/Opioid?

Wat is your favorite opiate/oid?

  • Heroin

    Votes: 225 26.0%
  • Fentanyl (duragesic, actiq)

    Votes: 26 3.0%
  • Methadone

    Votes: 15 1.7%
  • Oxymorphone (opana)

    Votes: 80 9.2%
  • Hydromorphone (dilaudid)

    Votes: 69 8.0%
  • Morphine (kadian, avinza, mscontin)

    Votes: 44 5.1%
  • Meperidine (demerol)

    Votes: 10 1.2%
  • Oxycodone (percocet, roxicet, oxycontin)

    Votes: 202 23.4%
  • Hydrocodone (vicodin, norco, lortab)

    Votes: 56 6.5%
  • Codeine (tylenol 3)

    Votes: 20 2.3%
  • Dihydrocodeine

    Votes: 4 0.5%
  • Buprenorphine (suboxone, subutex)

    Votes: 9 1.0%
  • Opium

    Votes: 40 4.6%
  • Kratom

    Votes: 18 2.1%
  • Propoxyphene (Darvon, darvocet)

    Votes: 5 0.6%
  • Tramadol (ultram)

    Votes: 22 2.5%
  • O-Desmethyltramadol

    Votes: 7 0.8%
  • Other Not Listed - Post and I will make option for any forgotten ones

    Votes: 13 1.5%

  • Total voters
    865
I know a couple people who somehow got off heroin using small-medium doses of meth. i’ve also known people to use low dose acid to quit meth.

L has a speedy quality in small doses, and actually contains an amphetamine molecule within its structure (just a fun fact, the amp structure almost certainly has no effect on the psychoactivity of lsd).

I think the idea for getting off meth is to take more than a ‘microdose’ (but less than a fully psychedelic dose) every day, or as needed. 50ug is probably too high, i’d aim for 30-35ug were I ever to give this a try.
 
What are those units of measurement and how do you check them on a tight budget if your using black market? Also do you know much about risks using this technique for people with mental health conditions that make them prone to mania or psychosis? (Bipolar, Schizophrenia, BPD etc.)
 
I love all of those except for the hydromorphone, given its so short-lived.

Great combo I used to enjoy was a shot consistently of actual #4 Heroin mixed in with Hydromorphone...allows you to have that same intense rush but with longer legs. Keep in mind tho I have the habit of a horse and have had an intense Opioid Addiction for twenty years. I'd do like 4mgs of Dilaudid and Two bags of Heroin generally and this was before the Fentanyl epidemic back when NJ had some of the best Dope around. I was real spoiled in my early addiction coming up here, first stamps I used were Fleetwood Mac and I got those same bags the whole first year, stupidly strong Heroin. Back then you could literally do one or two bags and be nodding all day. This is coming from someone that could shoot a bundle in a couple hours now with this FeNTaDoPe...
 
I used to love Demerol!!!! This was like 15 years ago, but I will never forget the high. I dont remember what the dosage was I would take, but it felt like I was on a cloud, walking on air, and just completely relaxed. It also felt like the cleanest high, I have ever had on an opiate.
 
What are those units of measurement and how do you check them on a tight budget if your using black market? Also do you know much about risks using this technique for people with mental health conditions that make them prone to mania or psychosis? (Bipolar, Schizophrenia, BPD etc.)

ug=micrograms, or 1 millionth of a gram. typically acid comes in 100ug ‘hits’ but this is optimistic, good acid is generally about 75ug. some acid (like the very popular rainbow gel tabs available of late) can be up to 125ug.

the way you find out how it’s dosed is to buy a few hits (or more if you trust the person) then cut a single hit into 4 pieces. eat one of the 1/4 pieces with no tolerance and hopefully without other drugs in the mix to cloud your perception.

if you don’t feel it at all then it’s dosed at less than 100ug per hit. if you feel a speedy effect but not really tripping, hits are probably at about 100ug. if you have a legitimate trip from 1/4 hit, you have unusually strong acid (not too likely but you should prepare for the possibility that this experiment could turn into an actual acid trip - so make sure you have about 12-20 hours free!)

this method uses the known, typical threshold dose of LSD (20ug-25ug). obviously there are lots of variables, but in my experience this gives you a metric to start with at least.

as for the mental health concerns, psychedelics are definitely generally discouraged for those with a family history of schizophrenia because they are known to trigger symptoms of schizophrenia in those who would have developed it anyway. I do remember finding some research once suggesting that if schizophrenia does not manifest by one’s mid/late 20s then it is not likely to manifest later in life.

I couldn’t tell you about the safety of taking psychedelics as a diagnosed schizophrenic though. I would imagine if someone is stabilized on antipsychotic meds those could interfere with the effects of a psychedelic, but probably would only lessen the intensity. as far as mania/bi-polar disorder, I really don’t think that acid would be any more potentially dangerous than meth or a number of other drugs.

all of that said, acid has some very unpredictable subjective effects sometimes, even at low doses. it is physically benign, but can certainly cause psychological issues (the most worrisome in my opinion is a condition called HPPD). if psychs are something you aren’t already familiar with, I would tread lightly at first. it’s unlikely to cause you any real problems, but of course be careful.
 
the other way to do this with acid is to spend some time thinking deeply about your relationship with whatever drug you may be uncomfortable with your use of ...then set aside a couple days for yourself, clean your place, make sure no one is gonna come bother you (and make sure you have someone you trust who can come help you out if things get rough) - then take a good dose of acid - like 150ug-300ug (1.5-3 hits).

probably don’t do this if you’re not really comfortable with tripping, or if you haven’t tripped before - but this method is a bit more likely to work I think.
 
What are those units of measurement and how do you check them on a tight budget if your using black market? Also do you know much about risks using this technique for people with mental health conditions that make them prone to mania or psychosis? (Bipolar, Schizophrenia, BPD etc.)
I was diagnosed with BPD once, but I thought the shrink just felt that he couldn't send me off undiagnosed or else he wasn't doing his job. I mean, honestly, what shrink would tell a normal person with normal issues "you're fine. There's nothing wrong with you. Go home"? Anyhow, BPD or not, I think that kind of therapy definitely isn't for everyone--especially given that some of us have to take an opiate or a sedative just to alleviate a bad trip.
 
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ug=micrograms, or 1 millionth of a gram. typically acid comes in 100ug ‘hits’ but this is optimistic, good acid is generally about 75ug. some acid (like the very popular rainbow gel tabs available of late) can be up to 125ug.

the way you find out how it’s dosed is to buy a few hits (or more if you trust the person) then cut a single hit into 4 pieces. eat one of the 1/4 pieces with no tolerance and hopefully without other drugs in the mix to cloud your perception.

if you don’t feel it at all then it’s dosed at less than 100ug per hit. if you feel a speedy effect but not really tripping, hits are probably at about 100ug. if you have a legitimate trip from 1/4 hit, you have unusually strong acid (not too likely but you should prepare for the possibility that this experiment could turn into an actual acid trip - so make sure you have about 12-20 hours free!)

this method uses the known, typical threshold dose of LSD (20ug-25ug). obviously there are lots of variables, but in my experience this gives you a metric to start with at least.

as for the mental health concerns, psychedelics are definitely generally discouraged for those with a family history of schizophrenia because they are known to trigger symptoms of schizophrenia in those who would have developed it anyway. I do remember finding some research once suggesting that if schizophrenia does not manifest by one’s mid/late 20s then it is not likely to manifest later in life.

I couldn’t tell you about the safety of taking psychedelics as a diagnosed schizophrenic though. I would imagine if someone is stabilized on antipsychotic meds those could interfere with the effects of a psychedelic, but probably would only lessen the intensity. as far as mania/bi-polar disorder, I really don’t think that acid would be any more potentially dangerous than meth or a number of other drugs.

all of that said, acid has some very unpredictable subjective effects sometimes, even at low doses. it is physically benign, but can certainly cause psychological issues (the most worrisome in my opinion is a condition called HPPD). if psychs are something you aren’t already familiar with, I would tread lightly at first. it’s unlikely to cause you any real problems, but of course be careful.
My experiences with psychedelics have been horrifying at worst and uncomfortable at best, so it probably would have little to no therapeutic value in my case. I gotta take painkillers just to pull me out of a bad trip. If the goal is to use psychedelics to help overcome addiction without mixing in other drugs, I'd probably go into panic mode when the trip peaks and it would just make me crave opiates--if anything, for the sake of killing the trip. I was also diagnosed with BPD (which I consider a bullshit label that shrinks give people who have normal ups and downs), but I don't consider it a factor as to why I've rarely had good trips.
 
My experiences with psychedelics have been horrifying at worst and uncomfortable at best, so it probably would have little to no therapeutic value in my case. I gotta take painkillers just to pull me out of a bad trip. If the goal is to use psychedelics to help overcome addiction without mixing in other drugs, I'd probably go into panic mode when the trip peaks and it would just make me crave opiates--if anything, for the sake of killing the trip. I was also diagnosed with BPD (which I consider a bullshit label that shrinks give people who have normal ups and downs), but I don't consider it a factor as to why I've rarely had good trips.
I hear you... psychedelics aren’t for everyone! although I would like to point out that using a psychedelic to help with an addiction definitely does not mean you have to abstain from the drug while you are on the psychedelic, at all. I made that suggestion just because other drugs can make psychs more unpredictable, but in a lot of cases deciding NOT to take other drugs during a trip (esp if you are physically/mentally dependent on them) can create a way more dangerous and unpredictable situation.

also I agree that super heavy diagnoses seem to get thrown around quite a bit. it seems unlikely that every single adult human I know has adhd or bpd, or both, except for me. I read once about trauma and ptsd routinely being misdiagnosed as bi-polar, schizophrenia, schizo-effective disorder, etc or some combination of those! just because the psychiatrist never thinks to ask ‘did something fucked up happen to you...?’
 
I hear you... psychedelics aren’t for everyone! although I would like to point out that using a psychedelic to help with an addiction definitely does not mean you have to abstain from the drug while you are on the psychedelic, at all. I made that suggestion just because other drugs can make psychs more unpredictable, but in a lot of cases deciding NOT to take other drugs during a trip (esp if you are physically/mentally dependent on them) can create a way more dangerous and unpredictable situation.

also I agree that super heavy diagnoses seem to get thrown around quite a bit. it seems unlikely that every single adult human I know has adhd or bpd, or both, except for me. I read once about trauma and ptsd routinely being misdiagnosed as bi-polar, schizophrenia, schizo-effective disorder, etc or some combination of those! just because the psychiatrist never thinks to ask ‘did something fucked up happen to you...?’
I completely agree then. I was also diagnosed with ADD along with BPD. I can vouch for having ADD because there's no denying that my attention span is pretty weak, but I still believe my BPD diagnosis is horseshit. Its like they can't let a person leave the appointment without a diagnosis, even if there's really nothing wrong. So sending someone out with a BPD label seems the "safe" option for shrinks, as it implies a grey area between a normal mental/emotional state and Bipolar disorder.
 
Never done heroin, smoked or injected opioids and besides kratom they were all pharmaceutical pills. So the list is:

1.) oxycodone
2.) morphine
3.) methadone
4.) buprenorphine
5.) tapentadol
6.) kratom
7.) tramadol

Would like to try oxymorphone to see the hype. I am dedicated to trying heroin when I am 60+ yo and have none obligations to nobody. Before that trying heroin or IVing anything would lead me into a death spiral very quickly cause of my psychology.
 
Never done heroin, smoked or injected opioids and besides kratom they were all pharmaceutical pills. So the list is:

1.) oxycodone
2.) morphine
3.) methadone
4.) buprenorphine
5.) tapentadol
6.) kratom
7.) tramadol

Would like to try oxymorphone to see the hype. I am dedicated to trying heroin when I am 60+ yo and have none obligations to nobody. Before that trying heroin or IVing anything would lead me into a death spiral very quickly cause of my psychology.
Tried all of those except 4 and 5. Oxymorphone is very similar to hydromorphone in my experience. I honestly think they're both way overhyped. Way too short-lived. Just when you start to enjoy yourself its already over. My advice to you would be stick to what you're accustomed to. Most of the one's you listed are way better than hydromorphone or oxymorphone in my opinion anyway.
 
So:
1: h
2: bupe
3: methadone
4: Dihydrocodeine
5:morphine

I'm talking about if I had a low tolerance and not on 85mg of methadone a day. So nothing touches the fucking sides....bleh
I'd rather have morphine but methadone is a nice lengthy high too. H would be great too if it wasn't so short-lived.
 
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