LucidSDreamr
Bluelighter
∆ sure as long as they build it into thier method it would be easy thing to do. Good luck getting them to do so if they don't currently though.
I will add this information because it may be relevant. I used MDMA for the first time in 2000. Encountered my reliable vendor probably around 2001. What he told me at that time was that the product was all coming in through Asian organized crime. Later, there was a huge bust in the area that involved many restaurants. The drugs were being hidden inside fish and sent to the restaurants. It was all over the news at the time. So, I do not think that the product I was using was being locally produced. I don't know if that makes any difference in regards to how it was being synthesized.
Which begs the question whether the impure MDMA elicits more desirable subjective effects than pure racemic 3,4-MDMA.For Leuckart, it was a product that was unique in its impurities. Not only was the product generated impure, but the impurities have been proven to be psychoactive.
Did you mean "Piperonal" ?As we see the piperanol route was taking over in china by the mid 00's and as we kindly learned from indigo it seems that route produces mdp2p-ol which likely negates the effect while also causing sickening symptoms.
Actually indigo this makes even more sense you got thru Asian networks as your change in product around 2005 correlates perfectly with the change towards piperanol in Asia around that time.
Which begs the question whether the impure MDMA elicits more desirable subjective effects than pure racemic 3,4-MDMA.
I am not convinced that impurities are what made "old" MDMA better. I sincerely doubt that the people being treated for PTSD are getting impurities. But, the state you would have to enter in order to address old trauma would need to be a fearless, safe, mental state. Presumably, the pharmaceutical grade MDMA is still magical. I cannot imagine anyone overcoming ingrained fears otherwise.
I also have way more physical side effects from the "sleepy" MDMA. Sure doesn't feel clean when there are headaches, nausea, and dizziness for days afterwards.
The dutch and canadian rocks are either fused which is done by heating to its melting point and then cooled or rocked with MSM (being the less popular option). To anyone that's even remotely knowledgeable of chemistry, you know that you can't get big rocks with racemic product.
I don't know exactly what's going on with this discussion of mongy MDMA, but I've read several threads, even on this forum that have played out and no one gets close to the truth. Biscuit had some good points in another thread and yet I don't remember them.
My feeling is that the product we are getting IS racemic and I say that because all the *known* syntheses are not stereospecific. That means you're getting a racemic product. I guess it's possible with the big labs that they are doing some novel reaction that utilizes an achiral catalyst producing a non-racemic product. That to me is the only thing that may make sense. This discussion of crystallization polymorphs and precursors to me rings false. A precursor is a precursor and once you get to PMK (from glycidate or from safrole->isosafrole) the known reactions are all non-stereospecific. So the big labs would have to be doing some novel synthesis to break this.
This actually should be testable at home. What needs to be done is to take a quantity and isomerize it with d-tartaric acid as per this TEK (http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads...-structure?p=10894102&viewfull=1#post10894102)
It's not exactly a completely scientific way of doing it because there will be losses, but it'll give you *some* idea.
What are the lab methods to isolate isomers? Someone please enlighten me.