What is the worst drug to have withdrawals from?

[phoeski]

xanax, valium and etizolam fucked up two straight months of my life.the bars were bought not perscribed. so was the etizolam. the 60mg a day valium script wasnt doing it for me after a while so i got on xanax. i went from 4-6mg a day to 18 almost every day. after the bars stopped smaking me in the face i started ordering the MD etizolam and those were just straight candy for me. that went from 10mg a day to almost 30mg a day.
started shooting dope and od'ed every time i used. i went to detox, which was not bad because i was given ativan every day 3x a day. then when i got tot the treatment center the wd really hit.
i had 4 seizures in the first 2 days off everything. when i finally stabilized i had tremors to the point i couldnt write or hold a food with a spoon. double vision to the point where i couldnt read or write for over two weeks.
benzo wd made me feel like i was going insane. id compare it to being plugged into a light socket. constant shaking, mood swings, hot/cold sweats. tired but you cant sleep. the only way to know i slept was i would remember something from the dream that i knew couldnt actually happen.
fuck that noise. ill never get on that shit ever again. id 100% rather have a panic attack and just white knuckle it thru.
dont do benzos folks.

 

[dopemaster]

Benzos wds are the worst IMO. I have had a few seizures when I was not able to get to my rx. Once due to weather and the others due to arrests.

Opana I find to be pretty nasty to WD from.

Subs are bad to come off of because wds last a month for me.

 

[Methacodone]

I voted for Heroin.
I have W/D from Methadone, Oxycodone, Hydrocodone, and Heroin.

Although the Methadone W/D was completely insane, it just wasn't as hardcore as the Heroin W/D.
Heroin W/D is SO intense. My legs would start flapping like jello in so much PAIN.
I would almost literllaly crawl on my knees when I W/D from heroin.

Heroin W/D = more intense/shorter
Methadone W/D Less intense/longer

 

[kaosisallwesee]

I've only ever had to deal with WD's from codeine (and weed, but I don't feel it counts, a few nights where its hard to sleep, nothing major).
But the few times I've come off codeine was pretty rough. I was using about a gram or so a day back then, not a huge habit but still enough to give me killer stomach/muscular pains for 3 ish days.
Then the 2nd time, cold turkey again, and almost no WD's at all due to loperamide and a fuck ton of weed.

 

[Sprout]

For sheer Universe shattering awfulness: polysubstance WD is terrible. Going CT from massive doses (2kg+) of Poppy Tea (26+/- opiates in one), 20 units of alcohol, 300mg Methiopropamine and 5mg Diclazepam a day is the single worst experience of my life.

 

[Parabolan]

Quitting diazepam cold turkey after consuming large amounts for prolonged period

 

[aroma borealis]

Heroin felt the worst for me, but I got seizures from benzo withdrawal, which is more serious medically. I've had friends who got off methadone and that seems worse than heroin.

 

[SirTophamHat]

Probably benzos

 

[Leegrow]

Never had benzo/alcohol withdrawal. It sounds terrible.

As far as opiates go, precipitated withdrawals kicked my fucking ass.

 

[TheRapperGoneBad]

Have to say for missing one dose at 45mg a day methadone last night sucked ass.
Got threw the day on long half life only noticing minor things
Once I was tryna sleep to this morning shit was bad tho.
Neck back pain restless limbs maybe an hour sleep. Such a shit drug methadone got me physically hooked as fuck had no problems fighting cravings.. Cept at one point I was wanting to boot some done syrup but I know better, +1 H.R.

 

[method own girl]

You r lucky

IME methadone WD was the worst ,lasted 3 weeks instead of the 1 week it took to get off heroin, kind of counter productive in my mind.

Jeez, if u got off methodone in three weeks you are super person or not even human. I was on 90 mls for 7 plus yrs. detoxed slowly to 20 and quit with psych care and suppport. It was close to 3 months before i could sleep more than 20 min and a year before i could even think about work. Not as severe as heroin or even benzos but it lasts the length of a bible. I experienced WD from heroin, valium, and dilaudid and I would rather do em all at once than kick methode again. Still on the done patrol but hope to get low enough to try the suboxone thing. Had a friend do it and he recommends for sure. Aanyway "the spice must flow"

 

[lolwhatzdrugs]

Jeez, if u got off methodone in three weeks you are super person or not even human. I was on 90 mls for 7 plus yrs. detoxed slowly to 20 and quit with psych care and suppport. It was close to 3 months before i could sleep more than 20 min and a year before i could even think about work. Not as severe as heroin or even benzos but it lasts the length of a bible. I experienced WD from heroin, valium, and dilaudid and I would rather do em all at once than kick methode again. Still on the done patrol but hope to get low enough to try the suboxone thing. Had a friend do it and he recommends for sure. Aanyway "the spice must flow"

There are quite a few people who have cold turkeyed high doses of methadone due to incarceration. I can't even fucking imagine - as if being locked up wasn't miserable enough. What is really fucked up is the lack of care given in jail to acute gabageric withdrawal, I know the main county jail in my city has encountered lawsuits due to their lack of compassion and damage they cause by treating people worse than mere beasts.

He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you.
- Friedrich Nietzsche

The worst drug is whatever you're currently experiencing discontinuation symptoms from

I've never experienced benzodiazipine withdrawal and am very careful to take 1-2 week breaks after a week or so of use in order to prevent dependency, but it seems that benzodiazepines (and by extension other gabagerics I.E. alcohol/GHB/barbiturates) seem to induce the most fucked up withdrawal symptoms. This thread is a primary reason why I'm so careful with this class of drugs - having experienced opioid withdrawals I have no intention of finding out whether it is truly worse. You benzo dependant people have my sympathy, I can't even imagine the W/D symptoms in combination with rebound anxiety! Opioid withdrawal may be fucking miserable but at least you can tell yourself you are in no mortal danger. With benzos you get all of the nasty symptoms + rebound anxiety (not that opioid withdrawal isn't anxiety inducing) + the possibility of hardcore seizures.

Even though I have only other people's subjective reports I still vote gabagerics.

 

[Professer]

I might get a chance to compare if i fuck this up

 

[lolwhatzdrugs]

I might get a chance to compare if i fuck this up

Lol what an opportunity! A spelunker of the caves of human misery!

 

[THCified]

Suffering WD from Uppers, in my case MPH (Extended Release) and PV (as fast-acting Medication; yes, it works if dosed correctly!). The sheer feeling of ones body being 2-3x more heavy as it actually is, which makes every movement feel like shit, RLS and inner tention and not the slightest bit of Motivation. To me, being diagnozed ADHD and suffering chronic Pain (for which i'm taking Oxycodone), those WDs are the worst - especially because all of the once vanished symptoms seem to have multiplied.

WD from Phenibut is also not the nicest, even though it doesn't have a Buzz that's strong enough making it worth suffering the Psychological/Physical Pain.

Btw, even though it's not really something to discuss here, how does Oxy compare to Hydromorphone, i.e. pain-killing properties, duration of action etc.? I'm thinking about switching, that's why i'm asking. PM me if you don't wanna post it in here!

 

[theedeadmau5]

for tramadol to be such a weak opioid, it will kick your ass harder than any other opioid. this is because of the simple fact that it releases serotonin and norepinephrine in the body just like an SNRI. so in addition to the physiological withdrawal associated with the opioid side of tramadol, you also have to deal with the psychological withdrawal associated with the SNRI effects.

 

[lolwhatzdrugs]

THCified (I was gonna PM it... but whatever, clear your messages!):

Hydromorphone is more powerful by weight when IVed - I don't know about plugged or if it has OP like safety features though there is an IR hydromorphone. Hydromorphone is to hydrocodone (and it is a minor metabolite of hydrocodone) as oxymorphone is to oxycodone (and a minor metabolite of oxycodone).

Most *morphone users are IV unless they're taking it legitimately and orally (or intravenously in terminal care settings...) for pain management. The reason is both of them have very high first-pass metabolism (through the hepatic portal vein directly from the digestive system through the liver instead of into the blood stream) much like heroin or morphine, however I plug both (h and M) and it's stronger though not the bang of IV. I bet hydromorphone is stronger rectally as well. Oxycodone and hydrocodone are both very well absorbed orally - you only IV if you're an IVDU and are chasing that rush (I see no point when plugging it is safer and has a quick onset).

 

[THCified]

THCified (I was gonna PM it... but whatever, clear your messages!):

Hydromorphone is more powerful by weight when IVed - I don't know about plugged or if it has OP like safety features though there is an IR hydromorphone. Hydromorphone is to hydrocodone (and it is a minor metabolite of hydrocodone) as oxymorphone is to oxycodone (and a minor metabolite of oxycodone).

Most *morphone users are IV unless they're taking it legitimately and orally (or intravenously in terminal care settings...) for pain management. The reason is both of them have very high first-pass metabolism (through the hepatic portal vein directly from the digestive system through the liver instead of into the blood stream) much like heroin or morphine, however I plug both (h and M) and it's stronger though not the bang of IV. I bet hydromorphone is stronger rectally as well. Oxycodone and hydrocodone are both very well absorbed orally - you only IV if you're an IVDU and are chasing that rush (I see no point when plugging it is safer and has a quick onset).

I'll do so... didn't notice my inbox is full! I just asked because Oxycodone, IR and XR, are both not long-lasting because even the XR Oxy releases 1/3 of it's dose within the first 20-30mins., hence the overall duration of analgesia isn't long enough, i.e. tolerance raises very fast and so dosage regimen is going straight trough the roof! I heard/read that Hydromorphone, being 7.5x in terms of painkilling properties while Oxy is "just" 1.5-2x, making it a possible better Med which is why i thought about switching to it as the XR-Formulation of HM seems to last way longer (which i don't know from experience but read online, so...) and the dose needed, obviously, is also a fair bit lower - letting aside the fact (which i think is great) of HM being almost completely free of interaction with other Medications.

Bupe, on the other hand, was another thing i had in mind but it's way stronger from what i heard when it comes to killing pain, but it seems too long-lasting and as i heard that the WD are said to be hellish, i think HM could be a viable option, but i've to discuss this with a medical specialist. What i like is that Oxy is not as sedating as Morphine or crappy Tilidine and had, to my surprise, after stopping HRT, much less impact on T-Levels compared to my former medication. So even though taking it, Oxy/Gabapentin, regularly, my T-Levels went from nearly 1.0 (which is damn low!) to 5.8 within 6 months, just by switching to a new Medication and of course, trying to live/eat etc. more healthy as i did beforehand (and i wasn't living too unhealthy, just to point that out!).

Sorry for the Off-topic, it'll be the last time - i swear

 

[edgewise1]

for tramadol to be such a weak opioid, it will kick your ass harder than any other opioid. this is because of the simple fact that it releases serotonin and norepinephrine in the body just like an SNRI. so in addition to the physiological withdrawal associated with the opioid side of tramadol, you also have to deal with the psychological withdrawal associated with the SNRI effects.

For me also tramadol for all the above. Especially with a 30 a day addiction.

 

[buddhistchick75]

I completely agree. Tramadol is by far the worst withdrawals I've ever had! I don't have WD's from Xanax or Narcs but Tramadol, ugh!