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What is the most common mescaline anologue?

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I just received to standard gelcaps, each filled nearly to the brim with a white powder from a *really* reputable source, but I haven't been able to find out what exactly it is because my middle-man connect lost is cell and is on vacation. Does anyone know what this is most LIKELY to be (I realize these are all speculations, but I want some intelligent input since I know nothing of analogues of mescaline

Thanks!

~ vaya
 
You should consider ordering them yourself, you'll save a lot, but we can't go into price discussion so I won't give specifics.

Anyway, chances are it's one of the 2Cs, most likely 2C-I or 2C-E, as those are - of the more common ones, the closest you'll get to Mescaline really. 2C-B is also a possibility but less places sell it so I'd imagine 2C-I or 2C-E would be more likely.

In future I'd recommend asking what you're getting beforehand, an "analogue" or "homologue" of something can be VASTLY different from the chemical itself, and you really need to know what it is. After all, if you have say 2C-E, and you went for a mescaline dosage of say 400-500mg, you'd end up in hospital or worse, since 2C-E is highly active at 10-20mg.
 
I just received to standard gelcaps, each filled nearly to the brim with a white powder
If the capsules are filled to the brim, I would hope that it's not a pure 2C-X. That would be overdose territory.

I would assume it's something less potent, if each dose is a couple hundred mg's.
 
Powders are diluted when capsule decks are used so every cap can be filled easily at the same level and same strength. Could be anything at all.
 
Powders are diluted when capsule decks are used so every cap can be filled easily at the same level and same strength. Could be anything at all.
That's if a capsule deck was used. I've never used one.
I just received to standard gelcaps
I assume by "to" that he meant "two". So it is quite possible, that if the distributor only gave him 2 gelcaps, that he wasn't using a capsule deck. Capsule decks are generally used when filling like 20+ capsules, I'm pretty sure.

Also, when he gave you the capsules, did he make it so one dose = one capsule? (That's what most distributors do) Or did he just use the capsule like a "bag" and fill it to the brim with something that could be like 10 doses in one capsule?

Also, another question, do you know if it's an actual mescaline analogue (like proscaline or escaline, something very close in structure) or if it could just be any phenethylamine/chemical with a similar "effect" to mescal (any 2C-x, any DOx, anything)?
 
That's if a capsule deck was used. I've never used one.

I assume by "to" that he meant "two". So it is quite possible, that if the distributor only gave him 2 gelcaps, that he wasn't using a capsule deck. Capsule decks are generally used when filling like 20+ capsules, I'm pretty sure.

Also, when he gave you the capsules, did he make it so one dose = one capsule? (That's what most distributors do) Or did he just use the capsule like a "bag" and fill it to the brim with something that could be like 10 doses in one capsule?

Also, another question, do you know if it's an actual mescaline analogue (like proscaline or escaline, something very close in structure) or if it could just be any phenethylamine/chemical with a similar "effect" to mescal (any 2C-x, any DOx, anything)?

If the capsules are "filled to the brim" then you can almost guarantee that a capsule deck was used. Filling a capsule by hand is messy and never results in capsule that appears 'packed full'.

Going solely by the OP's descriptions, it sounds like these are "single dose" diluted 2C-X that are extremely common to find for people who are connected to smartasses with mind for drug business. Probably 2C-I or 2C-E, but I have also seen 2C-P and 2C-C in this format as well (400mg of inert powder with the correct average dose of the particular 2C)

that having been said, if you cannot speak directly with the person who filled the capsules, i suggest you work on the assumption that there is NO way of knowing how much active compound is in them. Use a scale and start with 1mg for an allergy test (who knows what the cutting agent could be?) and work your way up from there. If you have experience with low-dose 2C-X, you might be able to feel threshold effects around 3-6mg. be smart and safe.

regarding the closer "mescaline analogues" like E and P from PIHKAL, i don't think these compounds are economical or popular enough to show up on the grey market internet scene, much less the black market capsule scene.
 
To answer some questions - and express my gratitude for your responses - I did, in fact, mean that I had received two (2) gelcaps. I was told they were "mescaline analogues" (a term I, too, have frequently seen attributed to 2C-B and/or 2C-I), but was told they were not of the 2C-X family. The source providing my friend with these capsules has an apt claim to run a significant current of the East Coast LSD stream in the US, and I'm not likely to take his word lightly. However, since I don't have direct access to the fellow (i.e. his phone number or any other contact information) I have to rely on the somewhat hazy heresay I get from my other friend.

I suppose "filled to the brim" would be a misnomer; in actuality, there are about 2-3mm of space at the top of the gelcap unoccupied.

My closer friend purports that, according to "the" source, each cap is one dose; apparently, the guy has gotten up to taking at least two a day (hardly surprising, given the amounts of L he throws around as if it were standard looseleaf paper). The trip has been described to me as a mixture of LSD and Ketamine; I'm very familiar (to a fault, almost) with what 2C-B, C, D, E, P, T-2, T-4 and T-21 all feel like, as well as true Mescaline itself, and DOC/DOI, and I really cant say (with the *possible* exceptions of 2C-B, 2C-E or DOI) that I've felt Ketamine-like characteristics within any of the aforementioned phenethylamines. Obviously, this has piqued my interested, and I am wholly unfamiliar with "true" mescaline analogues, such as proscaline and escaline that were mentioned several posts above this one (never even heard the terms prior to this question, TBH).

That having been said, from the same middle-man source I received the 'analogues' from, I've just received two capsules of 2C-E - weighed to the milligram at 22.5mg/capsule - obviously a standard acceptable dose. They are also from this so-called "upper-level" source, so I'd be confused to imagine him taking the time to drastically dilute one batch of 2C-X, whilst distributing other doses in perfectly quantified amounts.

Since I trust the intranasal route at being the quickest to display the nature of any research chemical (the onset, the burn, the drip/taste, the visuals and tactile sensations, the level of psychological introspection) I think I shall be bumping a very small quantity of one to determine what it really is. I posed this question knowing full well that "it could be anything" would be the most appropriate response, but if we assume that it is a "true" mescaline analogue (proscaline or escaline, as mentioned above), and NOT of the 2C-X class, are there any immediate and/or obvious differences in the nature of the sensation I might do well to be aware of?

For instance, most 2C's burn like the devil when insufflated. Is this true of proscaline or escaline? Has anyone tried these mescaline analogues and found them to be in any way dissociative as would liken them to a dissociative psychedelic like Ketamine or PCP? If not, I understand, and the vagueness with which I pose this question has me equally as frustrated as it must be to some of you who replied 'must be 2C-I' or 'no way of telling.' Those are legitimate responses. But, with this newfound clarification... well, any thoughts?

I must say there is no other place on the internet I'd feel as comfortable asking such a sticky question. Regardless of the feedback I get from this, I know I must start small - as one can always take more, but can never take less.

Namaste

~ vaya
 
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With mention of dissociatives, there's a possibility it could be one of the 2C-Ts, T-4, T-7, or T-21. This is mainly going from what others have said about the alkylthio 2Cs being somewhat dissociative, rather than my own personal experience.
 
i suppose jimscaline would be a possibility, though its exceedingly rare & don't think you'd wanna take a capsule full of it. also, what size capsules? There's a significant difference between a size 1 or 2 capsule full & a size 00 or larger full
 
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could it just be mescaline HCL?

if you didn't take any of them - how would you know that the effect is a mix of LSD and K? - I understand somebody told you but what meaning does that really have?
 
visually speaking, I would say 2c-e is the most alike to natural mescaline
 
The only actual mescaline analogs, in the sense of 3,4,5-alkyloxyphenethylamines, that I've seen for sale are proscaline, NBOMe-mescaline, and jimscaline. Proscaline is definitely the most common of those.

However, there's no reason to believe your capsules contain any of those, or anything in particular at all. I wouldn't take something that I don't know what it contains, personally.
 
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