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What is the most addictive substance?

methamphetamine is the most mentally overtaking addiction one can experience i think..... overall heroin though because of the withdrawal.
 
Demerol was pretty damn bad they shot me up on it at the hospital once and I still sometimes crave that high to this day. I would also agree that IV hydromorphone is very addictive, I've always loved the rush you get almost as soon as morphine enters a good vein but then I was given hydromorphone. I've never had anything that compares to that rush from hydromorphone not even IV fentanyl. I also feel IV midazolam is worth mentioning.

Damn now I wish I had some needles, really wanting to try shooting that pure d-amphetamine powder from the center of those beads inside a Dexedrine Spansule. I hear it has a hell of a rush, can anyone back this up?
 
Without a doubt, Klonopin. I’ve been a chronic anxiety sufferer (not just the type of anxiety many say they have, but straight panic disorder that leaves me debilitated and miserable). This medication works for me in a way that is so helpful, and causes such relief. I can drive, east, walk, and maintain a job without sweating and feeling like I’m going to vomit from a panic attack. It’s rough stuff.
 
SiCc said:
That warm blanket heroin put on me, but opiates in general is what I've most used and abused.
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That memory stays for so long. I have had strong cravings just when I start to forget how bad that ended for me.
 
Erikmen said:
That memory stays for so long. I have had strong cravings just when I start to forget how bad that ended for me.
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I have similar problems just with prescription opiates so I don't wanna even think how bad you former H users have it. Best of luck to everyone struggling with any drug problem. Doing drugs is fun when you're using cause you want to but doing them because you feel you need/have to it gets old quick,

@Roseyrivet : I have the same type of anxiety and panic attacks you describe and am also prescribed Klonopin for it, as well as another benzodiazepine (temazepam for severe insomnia). I'm definitely not saying that I don't believe you to find Klonopin extremely addictive (I don't have a doubt in my mind that you're being truthful) but benzodiazepines are an odd class of drugs, personally I can take my Klonopin on days I really need it then just put it away and not think about it until several days later when I have another panic attack or period of serious anxiety. I find it to personally be the least physically addictive benzo I've ever had excluding Ativan maybe, I definitely wouldn't give it up without a hell of a fight (unless the doc will allow me to try Xanax or Xanax XR, it's bad rep makes it hard to get prescribed) because I know I need it for it's intended purpose but physical dependence doesn't seem quite as serious as the general idea of having to face panic attacks without any help, I have no doubt in my mind that if I couldn't get benzodiazepines to help alleviate my symptoms that I would either turn to alcoholism or go running back to opiates (even knowing how destructive they are for me.) This is my personal list of benzos from most to least addictive and why : IV midazolam (can't speak for any other ROAs, just had IV given once before surgery. The effects were more powerful than any benzo I've ever had and included euphoria, that combined with the nearly instantaneous onset makes it extremely addictive), IV Ativan (completely different than pill form, much stronger at same doses + extremely fast onset), temazepam (when I first started taking it in addition to that classic carefree warm benzo feeling it completely relaxed my muscles and was truly euphoric), Valium (although fairly weak it has nearly the strongest physical effects of any benzo I've ever taken. If I just skipped a single day of taking it my muscles would begin to tighten down and spasm until I took more and it started to kick in) and the last two are extremely close, Ativan has the same type of problems Valium does but much weaker but on the other hand Klonopin is much stronger overall and has a fairly quick onset if taken sublingual. My point is if you like Klonopin that much you should probably be cautious about all benzodiazepines especially midazolam or anything else that's really strong and fast acting.

Also good luck with your anxiety, I definitely understand how bad panic attacks feel. At times I have some bad enough benzos can't even touch, they last for hours, I usually end up curled up on the floor paralyzed with dread, it feels like I have a knife twisting in my guts, feel completely hopeless like the feeling is permanent, convince myself that I've forgotten how to breathe and it takes most of my strength just to prevent myself from vomiting. Sometimes weed helps and others it just makes it a lot worse.
 
ObieWan said:
This is all subjective, but shooting sub and H, and kicking it, but succumbing to alcohol seems to me worse. Alcohol is socially acceptable, but other stuff is not. While I cracked the other stuff, life with or without alcohol seems to me unliveable.
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I'm in exactly the same place. It's an AA platitude that life with or without alcohol becomes unthinkable. I medicate my anxiety with it but it's ruining my life.
 
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CousinCocaine said:
I have similar problems just with prescription opiates so I don't wanna even think how bad you former H users have it. Best of luck to everyone struggling with any drug problem. Doing drugs is fun when you're using cause you want to but doing them because you feel you need/have to it gets old quick,

@Roseyrivet : I have the same type of anxiety and panic attacks you describe and am also prescribed Klonopin for it, as well as another benzodiazepine (temazepam for severe insomnia). I'm definitely not saying that I don't believe you to find Klonopin extremely addictive (I don't have a doubt in my mind that you're being truthful) but benzodiazepines are an odd class of drugs, personally I can take my Klonopin on days I really need it then just put it away and not think about it until several days later when I have another panic attack or period of serious anxiety. I find it to personally be the least physically addictive benzo I've ever had excluding Ativan maybe, I definitely wouldn't give it up without a hell of a fight (unless the doc will allow me to try Xanax or Xanax XR, it's bad rep makes it hard to get prescribed) because I know I need it for it's intended purpose but physical dependence doesn't seem quite as serious as the general idea of having to face panic attacks without any help, I have no doubt in my mind that if I couldn't get benzodiazepines to help alleviate my symptoms that I would either turn to alcoholism or go running back to opiates (even knowing how destructive they are for me.) This is my personal list of benzos from most to least addictive and why : IV midazolam (can't speak for any other ROAs, just had IV given once before surgery. The effects were more powerful than any benzo I've ever had and included euphoria, that combined with the nearly instantaneous onset makes it extremely addictive), IV Ativan (completely different than pill form, much stronger at same doses + extremely fast onset), temazepam (when I first started taking it in addition to that classic carefree warm benzo feeling it completely relaxed my muscles and was truly euphoric), Valium (although fairly weak it has nearly the strongest physical effects of any benzo I've ever taken. If I just skipped a single day of taking it my muscles would begin to tighten down and spasm until I took more and it started to kick in) and the last two are extremely close, Ativan has the same type of problems Valium does but much weaker but on the other hand Klonopin is much stronger overall and has a fairly quick onset if taken sublingual. My point is if you like Klonopin that much you should probably be cautious about all benzodiazepines especially midazolam or anything else that's really strong and fast acting.

Also good luck with your anxiety, I definitely understand how bad panic attacks feel. At times I have some bad enough benzos can't even touch, they last for hours, I usually end up curled up on the floor paralyzed with dread, it feels like I have a knife twisting in my guts, feel completely hopeless like the feeling is permanent, convince myself that I've forgotten how to breathe and it takes most of my strength just to prevent myself from vomiting. Sometimes weed helps and others it just makes it a lot worse.
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. For me, the reason clonazepam is so addictive is because it gives me such relief. I’ve gone thru periods of complete sobriety where I didn’t use any prescription meds or even smoke cigarettes. Klonopin was the one drug that I craved the most because I knew what relief taking a small green pill (which by the way, they taste like yummy mints or candy to me) would give me. Also, I am currently prescribed them but find myself taking too much. And I’ve moved to a new state, have no health insurance, and am scared about what I’ll do when I run out? EDIT: I should mention. I’m also a recovering H addict. 6 years of use and two of sobriety. I thank my lucky stars I was strong enough to pull myself out of that mess...
 
Alcohol. Been to hell and back with it. Hate it to high heavens. Way to many withdrawals. Effects every single part of your body. Mentally and physically has at times really done a number on me. Only for my family I dread to think where I’d be. 41 now, after a few days my body now says no more, my only saving grace I think. Hoping to god (or whoever) I’m finally getting sick of it.

benzos not far off but one goes hand in hand with another I suppose. Mentally they can put you in a really bad place.
 
Speed King said:
Don't knock Valium. That shit does it's job as prescribed. It can easily sneak up on you and black you out. To be fair, every benzodiazepine from weak to "strong" needs equal respect. under the correct circumstances, they can become a problem.

I hope you know Wilson Wilson, I wasn't giving you a hard time. Good time to make a point. I got in trouble taking Xanax.
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No offence taken my man you are right.

In fact re-visiting this thread months later I'll change my answer yet again as I've become bored of Xanax, have many bars just sitting in a drawer and no real urge to use them, but opiates have become my DOC now. I'm able to chip alright to avoid any real trouble with them but they do get a grip on you very easily. Dihydrocodeine is my DOC which has an intense euphoria at the right dose despite not being very potent. Not too hard to get a full on nod from the stuff either.
 
Most addictive substance in my life has been nicotine. Close second = prescription opiates. (*this was bad nuff I committed a felony to obtain some in 2012--- that's all done n dealt with: felony charge expunged. But THAT was when I knew I was NOT the one in control anymore: pills were ).

A note for those struggling with alcohol--- I've heard over in Sober Living a lotta folks talking up gabapentin as a withdrawal aid..... just don't stay on IT too long.

Current Fox Status: reducing my own gabapentin intake (I'm around 1200-1500 mg/ day n sometimes skip a day). That's down from 6000 at its worst (HOLY HELLLLLL).
YEAH the doctors don't know bout each other , supplying me. However--- a few just two or three months past, I was filling two massive scripts each month, the goddam DAY the insurance would cover them. That's how I calculated how many mgs I was actually downing. Well now I'm proud to say these current scripts, one's still at the pharmacy (it was available about 4 nooooo 11 days ago.) And the one here in the drawer I believe I filled November 27 n its still gotta shit ton of pills in it.

In the main, I'm "doin goooood".
In reality, LIFE IS HARD.
I'm in pretty bad withdrawals for a couple days and horrid hateful nights each time I Drop (taper) muh dose down.... ugh the fucking sweats/ chills, body aches, Constant discomfort & a little bit of anxiety I'm thankfully able to talk myself down from.

Jesus ever lovin CHRIST--- WHERE did "i" go ???? Where the Hell is that girl I used to be, buried under all this weirdness all these years???
By God I'm gonna fuggin Find Her !
 
prozac was extremely difficult to wean off of (did it myself), and once i was off, it took rotationally binging on all sorts of illegal and dangerous combos for a few months to get my head back in my possession.

gaba has been my biggest long-term addiction. from alcohol to benzies, from opies to phenibut... i was never an uppers kinda guy.

opioids are probably the ones calling me back the hardest, but somehow my use of dissociatives seems to have swiped me of the ability to deeply enjoy them as i used to (a clear benefit, in my case)

i danced with an everyday habit of cigs, and likewise with caffeine, and find both of them more habit forming, rather than truly physically addicting. the only things that seem to be physically addictive for me are downers.

cannabis has been the hardest to shake, or one of the hardest.

dissociatives are likely the least addictive out of all of the substances that have seriously tickled my fancies.
 
^ Anxiety sucks! I have spent a good part of my life trying to get away from being anxious.

Indeed @CousinCocaine, it's horrible when you have to use drugs because you need. You never know how the day will end up.
 
Erikmen said:
^ Anxiety sucks! I have spent a good part of my life trying to get away from being anxious.
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it has taken the better part of a decade for me to be able to (kinda) control my anxiety. and ive been quite dilligent... 3 part yogic breathing is my savior.
 
Good luck nepaln21!

I did manage to stop using benzos, I had to confront my fears for once and for all. Since I was doing opiates at the time it didn't affect me as much as I thought it would but after being sober from opiates all I wanted was to live under benzos to make me less nervous. I always feel that I would never be as calm as I used to be but I'm better and that's what I hope for my future to be able to live with myself more peacefully, maybe even sleep better.
 
The most addictive drug/drugs for me personally were benzo's. Mainly diazepam, flubromozolam, diclazepam and my favorite but most addictive in my opinion temezepam.. Problem is it depends what you mean by addictive, if you mean the drugs that gets you hooked the quickest i would say mephedrone (m-cat,meow meow, drone) or crack ( because you instantly fiend it after a pipe, not as in your addicted but the fiend will compel you to keep going till you run out of money or the dealer only has brown left) but if you mean hardest to quit after you have an addiction with the worst withdraws i would say any benzo addiction that goes into 3 figure milligrams a day is worse then the worst heroin addiction!
When you get too say 300/400mg of diazepam a day you can quite literally and easily die if you intentionally or forcefully cold turkey but then again with that said i would argue a bad alcohol addiction is arguably the worst addiction/ drug on the planet!
 
I think crack can make you reach rock bottom pretty fast. But the recovery is easier than heroin IME. Everyone is different, I have seen people who totally dislike opiates while others won't take downers, except for coming down from few sleepless nights.
 
For me it was necessary sometimes. Using drugs to function and other to party but at some point nothing works anymore. And taking more and more didn't work out for me. Still we keep using them until we can't do it anymore, physically speaking.
 
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