what is the BEST, most reliable testing kit and why, and where can i buy it?

[Bastardizer]

i tried searching for topics related to this, but no threads have had any answers worth a fuck. so.......those who use testing kits, what is the best and most reliable, WHY is it the most reliable, and where do i buy it?
which should i avoid and why?

 

[*Pixie* Stix]

Moved to the Pill Testing forum...

 

[Bastardizer]

?????????????
DOES ANYONE KNOW???????

 

[PlurredChemistry]

Personally i like the new Dancesafe Mecke reagent the best. It can distinguish very clearly the difference between MDMA and DXM. It gives no reaction for PMA... www.dancesafe.org - $25
EZ test is currently "beta testing" a new testing kit to test for PMA, but i don't like it too much (reactions aren't really clear enough, and you run out of one reagent way to fast...)
Most other testing kits contain the Marquis reagent. This is also good, and can test for many different substances, but the reaction between DXM and MDMA can be confused - **but they definately give different reactions**
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[aj]

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EZ test is currently "beta testing" a new testing kit to test for PMA,
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Marquis also detects PMA if the pill contains PMA ONLY.
Mecke does not detect PMA if the pill contains MDMA as well (most adulterated pills contain MDMA and other drugs like PMA). Neither does Mecke detect DXM if the pill contains MDMA as well, will it ?
EZ Test X-TREME is very useful to detect common combinations of drugs in Ecstasypills. For instance PMA and MDMA.
First you determine (with Marquis) whether an Ecstasy like substance is present. If so, you continue to test whether another drug is ALSO present.
No other testkit can do that and the results we observed are validated.
EZ Test X-TREME is definitely not the final solution when it comes to Ecstasy testing but (to me) it seems to be the most useful, cheapest and complete kit at the moment (but I am not objective, I guess).
aj
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[johnboy]

Marquis also detects PMA if the pill contains PMA ONLY

stop saying this. this is a lie. PMA gives no reaction to Marquis, either does a million other things. if you get no reaction to a pill with Marquis it does not mean it contains only PMA. i know what you meant but the way you say it is incredibly misleading. please just drop it.
Marquis is useless when it comes to the detection of PMA. end of story. Other reagents may be more useful, but there hasn't been enough independant testing yet to be sure.
The best tester? a full gas chromatograph. all reagents have limitations, just be aware of them, and cross reference results as much as you can.

 

[aj]

"Marquis also detects PMA if the pill contains PMA ONLY"
Johnboy, I did not want to offend you or something but Marquis is accurate in such a sense that it will test negative with Marquis if ONLY PMA is present.
You are correct when you say that it does not _determine_ PMA. However, the non-colorchange of Marquis DOES indicate it is not an Ecstasy like substance. It could be PMA, it could be many other things.
However, PMA ONLY pills are rare, as far as I know. PMA is mostly found together with MDMA in one pill.
This makes a Marquis test useless and I don't think E2 will be very reliable either.
(We could validate that because we have confirmed PMA/MDMA pills here to validate reactions).
The only way to get an indication of probable PMA in your pill is to perform the primary amine test with EZ Test X-TREME.
aj

 

[monsignore]

Without any doubt, the Xtreme kit from EZ is the ONLY ONE that can detect stange combination.
I use it since few days, but i tested several pills (go to pillsreports.com in france).
Xtreme has confirmed the analysis i made from these pills (i have conserved one superman i bought in disco, and 1 sample of each pill i gave to the lab) : since i always make a lab test before using E, X treme kit gave me the reaction i expected to from all pills i tested.
There are no so many ways to make an amine test ! that's why, i think, all "first instance" testers are marquis, and since now the simon reagent was the only one i know (but i can mistake) which can distinguish MDA from MD(m/e)A !
The robadope agent (XTREME kit) IS the only one that can detect combos like mdma/pma or other products (i would say Saloperie in french = big shit

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As E Z as 1 2 3 !!!
But i agree that DXM is difficult to see, specially in bad light conditions with the marquis reagent.
Advice ??
1 - Xtrem kit for all
2 - dancesafe mecke for DXM, which is, in fact, rare.
[This message has been edited by monsignore (edited 02 October 2001).]

 

[*chaoscat*]

Marquis is accurate in such a sense that it will test negative with Marquis if ONLY PMA is present.

Even if it tests clear you do not know that "ONLY PMA is present".
You may know what you are talking about, but the people than need to know this info the most will definitely be misled by what you say.

Marquis also detects PMA if the pill contains PMA ONLY.

This IS incorrect. As you say, it will give a negative result, but this in no way indicates it is or is not pma. Therefore, it does not detect pma.
Going by what you wrote, that means an asprin contains pma...

 

[easy e]

What he is trying to say, I guess, is that marquis will screen out a PMA Only pill. Since it will not render the desired ecstasy like substance color change, there is in fact no need to test further..
When mixed with mdma, EZ Xtreme is the only tester that will prove a combo of a primary amine(such as PMA) and a secondary amine (such as MDMA). So, when both tests give a positive result, you may deduct it contains a mixture.
I do not think E2 can tell this difference. Also I am not convinced of its capacity to distinguish mda from mdma and meth from amphetamin. Where was this validated? Just curious...