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What is safe to take for someone with mental illness?

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Barzan

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I have suffered mental illness which is anxiety+ panic attacks and hallucinations. I had been on marijuana about 10 years before my mental illness. I want to know what legal highs/psychedelics are safe to try out.

I am is no longer having hallucinations and panic attacks but i am scared to touch drugs again, fearing the symptoms might come back if i touch drug again. I am is looking for safe legal highs. If you know of any please let me know. I have been looking in to Indian Warrior but i am not sure if it is safe.

I am currently on anti-psychotic medication and SSRI.
 
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Sounds to me like you could be able to enjoy more about life if you were to stay clean. NO SWIM also.
 
These drugs you should not use: Stimulants (antipsychotics don't mix with them, serotongergic stimulants don't mix with SSRIs) NMDA antagonists (mental health issues), Psychedelics (won't work because of the meds, also the obvious mental health issues).

Cannabinoids/Cannabis I don't know but I guess it's not too good a choice of drugs if you have mental health issues.
 
I would highly recommend NOT taking Cannabis/Cannabinoids, those cause paranoia, anxiety and/or even hallucination which is what cause you illness in the first time.

Benzodiazepines or Opioids are what I think of that should not cause illness because they are not dangerous for your brain but wait... they are very addictive and withdrawal from them are very severe.

You better stay off drug honestly for your sake. I know its hard but it for the best.
 
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I would highly recommend NOT taking Cannabis/Cannabinoids, those cause paranoia, anxiety and/or even hallucination which is what cause you illness in the first time.

Benzodiazepines or Opioids are what I think of that should not cause illness because they are not dangerous for your brain but wait... they are very addictive and withdrawal from them are very severe.

You better stay off drug honestly for your sake. I know its hard but it for the best.
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I am looking specifically for something that has mild relaxing effect and doesn't act upon dopamine receptors. I have no knowledge which legal herbs are good for relaxation. Thanks for advising me to stay off drug.
 
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please edit swim out of your post we all know and so would law enforcement if they really wanted to deal with you over something so trivial would know it's you
 
No legal herbs are going to do much more than relax you a bit, but they are not going to get you high. Maybe something like Kratom or Kava Kava, both of which are legal depending on where you live. But Kratom can be as addictive as weak opiates like codeine, so its not magic either. We really don't know what "high" you are seeking, but the internet has tons, loads, bevies of information on these things, so do a google search.
 
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No legal herbs are going to do much more than relax you a bit, but they are not going to get you high. Maybe something like Kratom or Kava Kava, both of which are legal depending on where you live. But Kratom can be as addictive as weak opiates like codeine, so its not magic either. We really don't know what "high" you are seeking, but the internet has tons, loads, bevies of information on these things, so do a google search.
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Yep.

OP: Go to Erowid.org. I used Kava frequently for a few months and I think it made my acid reflux worse. Kratom is mildly addictive but less addictive than most any other drugs you could do.

And dude we don't know your mental illness, we don't know the meds you take, your medical history, physical health, personality, etc. How are we supposed to tell you what drugs to take. You've got to research about the different drugs and learn these answers yourself. If your going to be a drug user and you don't want to end up dead, in jail, or in the state hospital then read about what your using.
 
The only two things I can think of that are both legal and safe (coming from a schizophrenic here) is Kratom and Coedine. Most research chemicals are designed to be psychedelics which act on serotonin and dopamine receptors, which you don't want. Stimulants like MPDV (Is it still legal?) do the same, and would do the exact opposite thing your antipsychotics are designed to do.

If you are going to take kratom be sure not to take too much as I find it can trigger panic attacks in high doses (It can become very confusing to when you have extreme stomach pain, mental stimulation and physical sedation all at once).
 
I would abstain from drugs until you can feel confident that you are more under control.
There's a lot of beauty in life besides drugs, never forget that
 
Since GABA wont cause you psychotic effect, something like Baclofen or Phenibut might be something to look for. They are not too strong sedative as far as I know, I never took neither of them but they are GABA-b agonist which make them "long-acting/mild effect" drugs.

You should not only avoid Dopamine agonist drugs but pretty much all monoamine agonist drugs which include; Dopamine, Norepinephrine, Epinephrine and Serotonin. Those will be bad for you.

GABA agonist are going to sedate you to a peaceful state of mind but watch out for tolerance and withdrawal.
 
^ yeah, I agree with this. Phenibut is good, but tolerance kicks in quickly, I can't find a definitive answer about how soon actual dependence occurs, but I've heard WD's compared with benzo withdrawal. Also, how about nitrous oxide?
 
Nitrous might be risky, its pharmacological action is very large. Source from wiki, it bind to; NMDA, beta2-nACh, AMPA, Kainate, GABAc ??? (do that exist, or they mean GABA-rho), 5HT3, GABAa, Glycine, K+channels. Interact with Endogenous opioids, Norepinephrine and Dopamine.

It can also cause neurotoxicity via strong NMDA antagonism.

I would not recommend it.
 
That makes sense since alcohol also have a large pharmacological profil that is similar to N2O.

Alcohol is a positive allosteric modulator of GABAa, it also antogonise nACh, AMPA, NMDA and Kainate, it agonise 5HT3 and Glycine, Have action on K+, Na+ and Ca2+ Voltage gated channels and also have indirect action on Dopamine.

Though, I wouldnt recommend Alcohol neither, this shit is poison for neurons and I cant believe its legal and not Benzodiazepines.
 
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It depends upon the mental illness, someone in your shoes... possibly benzos.
But you should honestly stay sober, especially since you've dealt with hallucinations in the past.

I have a relative with schizophrenia and I would never give her any drugs whatsoever.
 
if you have a mental illness any drug will be more addictive, but putting that aside (big fucking thing to put aside BTW) i would say opiates, preferably kratom which is probably the mildest.
 
What about Etizolam that's legal as a research chemical, I think it's a theiobenzo or something which acts like a bezo... Intermittent use will calm you, just be careful, I thought benzo's like valium where the answer to my probllems when I was younger and I didn't know they would be so addictive....I think weed and benzo withdrawal is what has caused my anxiety so be careful fella...
 
Etizolams a bad idea as it has snri effects and could interact with psych meds.
However proper benzos would proberly be ok in small to moderate doses (not in large doses as a blackout while on anti-psychs could be messy and be aware of the extra sedation) and z-drugs like zopiclone or zolpidem should be ok (again, be careful of dose and complusive redosing).
Another option would be low potentcy opiates/oids like codeine, dihydrocodeine or hydrocodone, avoid tramadol, tapentadol or pethidine as they have anti-cholinergic or snri effects and may interect with your meds.
Thats all I can think of right now, except be very careful about dependance or addiction with these substances as addiction will have a terrible effect on your mental health and given your history, you are more prone to addiction issues.
 
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