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What is killing the rave scene in America?

CloudyHazeD said:
The RAVE Act of 2000 sort of scared most promoters off...........
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That was nearly 7 years ago and it's since been defeated in a lot of places.
I think one of the main issues(speaking from experience) is that fact that there is too much competition among promoters and so a lot of events lose money due to too many parties happening on a single night.
 
imo,hippies have done nothing but good fo rthe scene....its the gangstas and thugs who are fucking everything up with their bad attitudes and getfuckedaspossible mentality.
 
I'm not trying to get flamed here, but isn't a discussion such as this one helping in the killing of the rave scene? I mean, I've honestly only been to a handful of raves, but I always went with an open mind and a positive attitude. If you go into something thinking that it's going to be awful, then it'll probably end up that way.

I mean, a few posts back somebody was judging the people at a rave by the clothes that they wear. Is that really what the rave scene is about? I wear polos and khakis, but I have more love in me for my fellow man and woman than most other people I know. And I'm sure as hell not going to judge somebody at a rave because of the type of clothes that they are wearing.

The rave scene is like anything else. When you discover it, it seems like a magical place. The more used to it you get, then the slightest deviation in what you perceive in that scene will piss you off because you aren't comfortable with it. Then you become jaded to that scene/drug/anything because it isn't what it used to be.

If you really want to change things, I suggest you go to a rave and be nice to everyone you see. So what if there is a white kid wearing baggy Fubu pants and an Enyce jacket... maybe he's confused and is trying to fit in. Not showing a person love because you think that they're a prep or a jock or a gangsta isn't part of the PLUR/rave culture, and I think if you're judging someone on looks and not actions than you are the problem with the rave scene.
 
The internet killed the rave scene, at least up in the bay area. The line between the people who throw the events and the people who attend events is all blurred now. Cross-bookings have also put a hurt on the scene up here. Though there is still a thriving underground techno/breaks scene here for the older people, you just gotta know how to find 'em.
 
Offer some candy raver sacrifices to the Gods,................. only then wiill the scene come back.
 
the prepster said:
I'm not trying to get flamed here, but isn't a discussion such as this one helping in the killing of the rave scene? I mean, I've honestly only been to a handful of raves, but I always went with an open mind and a positive attitude. If you go into something thinking that it's going to be awful, then it'll probably end up that way.

I mean, a few posts back somebody was judging the people at a rave by the clothes that they wear. Is that really what the rave scene is about? I wear polos and khakis, but I have more love in me for my fellow man and woman than most other people I know. And I'm sure as hell not going to judge somebody at a rave because of the type of clothes that they are wearing.

The rave scene is like anything else. When you discover it, it seems like a magical place. The more used to it you get, then the slightest deviation in what you perceive in that scene will piss you off because you aren't comfortable with it. Then you become jaded to that scene/drug/anything because it isn't what it used to be.

If you really want to change things, I suggest you go to a rave and be nice to everyone you see. So what if there is a white kid wearing baggy Fubu pants and an Enyce jacket... maybe he's confused and is trying to fit in. Not showing a person love because you think that they're a prep or a jock or a gangsta isn't part of the PLUR/rave culture, and I think if you're judging someone on looks and not actions than you are the problem with the rave scene.
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This is the best post in this thread so far. And yeah, whats wrong with my polo shirts?? How else can I pop pop pop my colla=D
 
wow, I never thought BL could be so judgemental. who cares if you are gangsterish, wear polo shirts, or are a hippie? please don't let me down, DC crew :(
 
Well does someone wanna point it out to me? I have a few friends who throw parties and run a site for aiding in promotion(chicago and surrounding) and I still don't know where the scene is.
Unless this is it, in which case we need to start working harder.
 
the prepster said:
I'm not trying to get flamed here, but isn't a discussion such as this one helping in the killing of the rave scene? I mean, I've honestly only been to a handful of raves, but I always went with an open mind and a positive attitude. If you go into something thinking that it's going to be awful, then it'll probably end up that way.

I mean, a few posts back somebody was judging the people at a rave by the clothes that they wear. Is that really what the rave scene is about? I wear polos and khakis, but I have more love in me for my fellow man and woman than most other people I know. And I'm sure as hell not going to judge somebody at a rave because of the type of clothes that they are wearing.

The rave scene is like anything else. When you discover it, it seems like a magical place. The more used to it you get, then the slightest deviation in what you perceive in that scene will piss you off because you aren't comfortable with it. Then you become jaded to that scene/drug/anything because it isn't what it used to be.

If you really want to change things, I suggest you go to a rave and be nice to everyone you see. So what if there is a white kid wearing baggy Fubu pants and an Enyce jacket... maybe he's confused and is trying to fit in. Not showing a person love because you think that they're a prep or a jock or a gangsta isn't part of the PLUR/rave culture, and I think if you're judging someone on looks and not actions than you are the problem with the rave scene.
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You have definitely hit the nail on the head.

I was never really into the rave scene (living in northern new england you don't see much action ;) ) But the first rave I did attend I probably didn't look like I belonged there...khaki cropped pants and a tee shirt. I definitely wasn't all "candied" out. No one made fun of me and I didn't see anyone giving me weird looks. Everyone was there to just have a good time. That's what it is all about.

It's kind of sad that people are so judgemental, ESPECIALLY when it pertains to the rave scene.

Long live PLUR!! =D
 
It seems as if everyones egos are destroying the sceen. A rave should be (insert YOUR opinion), and I'm gonna sulk and bitch if you think otherwise. Or maybe it's the soul-crushing, mind-numbing, din of the Tv telling you to fuck everyone else because it's all about you and how much you can get. Grab the brass ring and while your at it grab this fuck and that fucks brass ring as well.
 
the more people that know about things, the crappier they become. everyone interprets shit differently so the more people that came the more the scene changed. then people became jaded because they didnt like what was happening, how the scene was changing.
so all in all the scene is not dead, its just a sock that has been patched so many times that there is no longer any more of the original sock left. you know your jaded when you start thinking the scene is dead. oh btw BRING ON THE MOTHER FUCKING D AND B
 
This isnt really the scene i come from so i dont really know much abot it but im willing to bet that drugs played a big part in its decline.
(i know this is a drug message board but i will still blame them.)

Iv seen the same thing happen with the jam band scene.
Started out as a tight nit community of dead heads. With Phish came the younger crowd but it was still mostly about the music. Then as the scene started to grow more people became involved that didnt care about music and were really interested in selling drugs and making money. Because of this more people started showing up to just get fucked up as opposed to listen to the music.
And now the scene that i loved so much has turned to shit.
Oh well, the music will always be there.
 
After the rave I went to on the weekend, I'm further convinced that the parties reflect the personality of their organisers. There was killer music and a total lack of fights, junkies, sluts and other assorted rave scum. Or at least they weren't a problem. This is in stark contrast to parties put on by people who really shouldn't be in the scene anymore.

The scene's not dead. It just needs a kick in the arse from people who care about it.
 
I didn't even know there was a scene rave still in America.

I quit DJing a year ago.

Shit got old, quick.

You should've been there in '97, much better. And there was still acid!

EXPAND YOUR MIND - TAKE DRUGS AND STAY HOME. MASTURBATE. FUCK RAVES.
 
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