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What is it with benzo's?

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I really wish I knew how to do a poll, cause this is something that has always stumped me.

I deal with several issues and I am prescribed several "controlled substances" to treat them. I've always had "issues" I guess you could call it with my pain meds, he'll, it seems most people who I know who have needed to be on stronger paid meds usually alway eventually end up with an issue taking them correctly. My issue is when I see a full bottle sitting there and my last pill or 2 didn't seem to work, he'll I'm gonna try to take another one or two in hopes THAT will help the pain go away, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Plus let's be real here, pain meds do also make you feel better mentally, not just physically. Thays where the line gets fuzzy for me, cause isn't the whole purpose of pain meds to help you fell better and have less pain and be able to Get some of your normal abilities back?

Anyways, that's for another day. My question for people here is what is it about benzo's that get people so hooked? What makes people crave them so bad? I get people who abuse pain meds as I stated before. I've felt and know the "high" you get with them. So I get when people would pay to get them just for the fun of it. But Benzo's? I've taken them all in the search to try and find a med to help control my anxiety, something that my doctor and I am are pretty sure is. Made worse by the pretty high dosage of Adderall (20mg IR 3xday, I don't take them every day though so on the days I do I usually just take 4 onetime in the morning and I'm good all day) I have to take due to my life debilitating ADD. I've been seeing this new doc a month now and in that month he upped my dose of the med I was currently on, Kolonopin, but quickly realized even a raise was doing nothing to help calm my major anxiety I have all day as well as my attacks I get. So after a week heat me on Valuim and even taking high doses of that, again, no relief for my anxiety, just would get really sleepy. So after two weeks and taking about how I've tried everything from Klonopin, ativan to visteril. No help. So he said lets pull out all the stops and out you on the highest dose of Xanax and see how that works this week and when you come in next week for your Adderall refill we will see how things are going. I've heard a lot about Xanax before and personally knew a lot of people who got very addicted to them and with my addictive personality (all or nothing!) I've tried to stay away from them since I have4 kids to take care of. That being said, I've been taking the Xanax for almost a week now and there is no way I can take 2mg 3xs a day and not fall into a coma all day! The first few days my dad came over to stay with the kids ( my husband is military and out of the country), which I was so thankful for because I was stupid passed out all day long! And it wasn't a holy shit I'm high as fuck passed it, it was a hard to fight benadryl passed out. Is this normal for people to feel this way? Is this just my body getting used to this drug? Cause I'll tell you one thing, my bop real anxiety is so much lower than its been in a long asstime! Ive just learned I can't take full bars at a time.

It's so funny, this is how dense I was to what Xanax even was, I was always sp confused why people called them "Bars". IV seriously never seen a bar shaped prescription drug before! Anyways, the point of this whole post is to try and understand why and how this drug is Addictive or seemed out for recreational use? I want to ask my friends but out of respect of their sobriety I don't feel that is ok, so that's why I came here. For once in my life I'm not seeking this info to learn how to "get high" off of it, but the exact opposite. I want to know the warning signs so I know when to tell if I'm having a problem. With my husband in another country right now I am all they have and I WILL NOT allow myself to let them down, so since its looking like this will be the medication I will end up on, I want to make sure to know everything's van about the medication, like I did with Adderall, I was worried about that since I had a 6 month love affair with meth and didn't want that to happen again. Thankfully while I LOVE my Adderall and I don't alway ate it as its written for me (I'll skip a few days and then take 4 at a time just once for the day instead of the prescribed 1 pill 3x a day, kinda like I do with my pain meds, although the only times go withou taking anyof those for day is once I end up running out for _ amount of days (doesn't help that my dad is always asking me for two or one here or there and while it didn't used to bother me since he took the same meds as me, he doesn't anymore so it just straight eats at my supply and whilei know it's against the law to share your meds, how do you say no to your dad when you kno his pain is worse than yours and he just spend 6 hours babysitting!!!!


Sorry, I tend to off track (even on my add meds I still have horrible add problems).


Long story short, what is it about benzo's that make people get addicted to them? I just dont get it, they just seem like strong Benadryl to me. can anyone shed any light onto this for me? This is truly for HR reasons. Is this something that could just sneak up on me one day and if so, what would it be?

Thank you! Also, if this is the wrong place for this forgive me, I wasnt sure! Thanks!
 
Some prefer opiates, some prefer benzos. If you can understand 1 addiction it's pretty easy to understand the other

Benzos are more physical addictive, as in, you can go into seizures and even die from serious withdrawals

Also I hear that it takes a long, long time to recover from the PAWS
 
Benzos are addicting because for someone like me who has excessive anxiety they can almost completely take it away with no tolerance. To go from debilitating anxiety to a calm functioning person can be great. Problem is eventually that dose only takes away part of your anxiety. This is where you should try your hardest to deal with as much of the anxiety as you can. Most people don't do that for various reasons and increase their dose. This cycle repeats itself endlessly for some. Also benzo withdrawal is psychologically devestating for some people and can involve serious PAWS. So that is why they are addicting.
 
RedRum OG said:
Some prefer opiates, some prefer benzos. If you can understand 1 addiction it's pretty easy to understand the other

Benzos are more physical addictive, as in, you can go into seizures and even die from serious withdrawals

Also I hear that it takes a long, long time to recover from the PAWS
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I kind of disagree. While benzos do have worse withdrawals, I would have to say opiates are more PHYSICALLY addictive.

^^Lol at seyer (partly because I don't know if he's serious or not...but he's probably not)
 
LOGan1314 said:
I kind of disagree. While benzos do have worse withdrawals, I would have to say opiates are more PHYSICALLY addictive.
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but physical addiction is dependence, the degree of which is measured by the severity of withdrawal symptoms, so that's kind of a contradictory statement.
 
1) They are immensely physically addictive and produce strong withdrawal symptoms upon abrupt discontinuation.
2) They provide anxiolytic relief, better sleep and a carefree feeling, at least initially
3) Their effects are quite subtle so it is easy to get into the habit of just taking one pill every now and then
 
I didn't read through the whole post, so forgive me if someone else before me has already said what I'm about to.

Benzodiazepines definitely IMO are not as euphoric as opiates, and IMO, by themselves they really aren't that euphoric at all. Most people I know that abuse Benzodiazepines combine them with opiates (especially maintenance opiates like Methadone or Buprenorphine) or Alcohol (a combination I've never understood or found pleasurable). It should be noted that combining different CNS depressants IS VERY DANGEROUS! In fact, I believe most (or a hell of a lot) heroin overdoses are actually caused by combining heroin with alcohol or other depressants (like benzo's or barbiturates etc..).

Anyway, though it is dangerous, it's pretty common practice, and it's how I got hooked on the fucking things myself.

I've also always been an incredibly anxiety ridden person, and totally socially awkward. Benzo's also helped me initially with that as well, they made me feel a lot more open and 'charismatic'. I also thought that Benzo's were a much more easily attainable habit and that I could function perfectly on them, as opposed to heroin which always sent me crashing into the ground (even though I knew the physical WD was hellish from the experience of people I knew). However, the subtle buzz grew and grew on me over time-it wasn't like other drugs where I instantly fell in love with 'em, it took some time, but there came a day when I just HAD to feel that sense of calm that benzo's brought me, and of course it led to dependency, which makes things even worse because the withdrawals are just so fucking bad..

Anyway, I apologize as I know I didn't articulate very well what it is about this class of drugs that becomes so 'seductive', and in a way, I guess it's because the effects are so subtle that it's just hard to explain unless you somehow experience it yourself.
 
When you have really bad anxiety, getting actual relief from it is quite euphoric in itself, aside from what most people would constitute the actual "euphoric/rewarding/reinforcing" effects of xanax. So it's important to remember that if you suffer from anxiety, you'll have a higher likelihood of getting "something" out of benzos.

It's also important to remember that if you get into using benzos for that "something" and not for actual relief, and start taking too much, the rebound anxiety/depression is going to be much worse than where you started off. There aren't many people who don't report some form of rebound anxiety or withdrawal symptoms from xanax.
 
anxiety/panic disorder is the biggest reason people get hooked to them. They aren't exactly fun for a happy comfortable person to take, they'll just fall asleep most likely. There's no buzz but they can stop a panic attack in its tracks, like nothing else. They also treat GAD quite well too. If you abuse them then you're fucked though, no real in between if you're dependent. If you take them once a month then you won't get hooked to them, but people with anxiety/panic disorder get attacks far more than once a month.
 
i've never experienced a craving beyond sucking my thumb like i have a minty kpin under my tongue. ever. cigarettes, thumb sucking, kpin under the tongue. i'll lose my fucking goddamn mind without any of them.
 
They are euphoric for people with anxiety disorders. I have sever anxiety, paranoia and panic attacks and i feel euphoric when i take benzos. Its different then opiates, its not the same kind of euphoria in my opinion. And i absolutly love mixing them with alcohol, the mix i loved the most was benzos + alcohol + weed or benzos + heroin + a little of beer. Now i dont reccomend it, it is dangerous actually. I had a few rough times when i didnt know my limiuts very well. But they can be great for people who need them
 
I've had problems with severe anxiety since I was a child. When I discovered Xanax, it was like my dreams came true. But I was taking so much (7-10 mgs per dose) I had to stop. I couldn't remember anything, lost track of days...then started mixing them with Klonopin and vodka. I'd wake up in hospital, sometimes in retraints.

Never again.
 
Been on Xanax for almost 10 years now. Just upped my dose to 2mg BID (2xday) from 1mg. My husband can take one and sleep forever. They even seem to make him depressed if he takes them regularly. If I take a different benzo (klonopin, ativan, valium) it will work once but not again the next dose. When my xanax works, it seems to calm my brain and slow my body. If you are also on Addy, CronicPain, then I have no idea how you are sleeping (but my guess is tolerance) just like you build with any medication.

BTW The first paragraph you wrote about pain meds...just exactly my thoughts. Would love to discuss in more detail.
 
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