What Is A Speedball?

[acidity357]

Speedball

i like doing speed balls (Black Tar+Cocaine)

 

[Khadijah]

What do you mean, its not that alive? It doesn't evolve at any set rate, and now that international communication is so common, slang changes and new slang pops up left and right.

Look at the term dope. A lot of people consider it drugs in general, while purists consider it just heroin.

What it really boils down to is, do you know what they meant, and how much of an anal prick do you want to be?

Guess what.....you DONT know what they meant. Why is that? Becuause a speedball means IV coke and heroin. If someone calls something that, and they are referring to some kind of lame ass excuse for a speedball, then you dont know what they mean. I dont call a carpet a blanket. I dont call a ice cream cone a popsicle. If you call something by a name that it is not, then nobody does know what you mean. If you tell people you were speedballing and you were sniffin oxy and adderall, then you are the one who is misled, not them. I dont think its being a anal prick to assume that somebody would call something by its actual name.

If there is still clarity in the meaning, why care about the delivery?

Becuz there AINT clarity in the meaning. Clarity in the meaning cant be achieved by calling something a word that it aint. Clarity would be people only calling speedballing what it actually IS. The lack of clarity is BECAUSE of people like you who think that a specific word for a specific thing can be used for whatever the hell you want it to, becuz lord knows why, maybe you want to sound cool, maybe you want to impress people, maybe you just dont know. but if you didnt know, then you would be willing to listen to information ppl tell you to make you aware of the facts instead of defending something that is incorrect....That make sense to you or are you too busy doing a coffee and benadyrl speedball enema?

Recons, thanks thats a pretty good compliment.

 

[narutokun]

You know what, fuck that. I'll employ the term speedball as I wish for the lack of a better term for any stimulant/downer shot at the same time in the same syringe. Words lose/change their meanings, words die, get over it.

 

[LivingOnValium]

To me Speedball is coke and heroin in the same rig.

I might use the term "redneck speedball" for some other cocktails. (eg. buprenorphine + methylphenidate)

 

[Khadijah]

@natrutokon or whatever the hell -Youre just mad that there aint a badass sounding term for your shitty combos.

Now ima go put my shirt on my feet, and get into my boat to go for a drive. Im gonna do some candyflipping on some weed and coffee, and do meth, which is actually just what i like to call PCP. Ill also snort some blow, which is actually smoking a blunt, but thats what i want to call it, so im gonna call it that. Fuck you for tryin to put your stupid white man oppressive words on me!

 

[LivingOnValium]

@natrutokon or whatever the hell -Youre just mad that there aint a badass sounding term for your shitty combos.

LOLz!

 

[narutokun]

@natrutokon or whatever the hell -Youre just mad that there aint a badass sounding term for your shitty combos.

Now ima go put my shirt on my feet, and get into my boat to go for a drive. Im gonna do some candyflipping on some weed and coffee, and do meth, which is actually just what i like to call PCP. Ill also snort some blow, which is actually smoking a blunt, but thats what i want to call it, so im gonna call it that. Fuck you for tryin to put your stupid white man oppressive words on me!

If that's your reasoning I have no problem with it. I wouldn't be needing another term for my 'shitty combos' because if people were to invent a term for each and every stimulant and downer combination IVed together that would just be a complete mess. I love midazolam and cocaine shot at the same time as much as heroin and cocaine, despite that, I don't think coining another term (e.g.: midazolo1337cocalomegaspeedz00omgball) is necessary. Calling it a speedball is much more simplier and if required further explanation, then yes I'd just say "it's a midazolam and coke shot". My position still stands, words change, move on. Oh yeah my sn is "narutokun" btw; if you haven't learned how to read yet. I'm not gonna make any comments on the part of the racist content of your post.

 

[LivingOnValium]

what's wrong with terms like combo and cocktail?

Alllmost every daily drug users deeply into the drugs culture associate the term "speedball" with an H/C-mixture injected simultaneously.

 

[narutokun]

I guess no one's getting my point here, huh?
I'm not a 'every daily drug users deeply into the drugs culture ' if you mean that as another way to say "your average everyday junkie".
What I mean is: everyone's entitled their opinion, if I wanna call it a speedball I will.
Word's meanings change with time, maybe the newer generation will call any upper/downer combo a speedball, which is a process that already seems to be taking place, hence the very reason this thread was started (try dismissing this one bitch).
Things change, if you don't adapt whether you like it or not, don't follow up on the changes and you WILL be obsolete.

 

[Khadijah]

If that's your reasoning I have no problem with it. I wouldn't be needing another term for my 'shitty combos' because if people were to invent a term for each and every stimulant and downer combination IVed together that would just be a complete mess. I love midazolam and cocaine shot at the same time as much as heroin and cocaine, despite that, I don't think coining another term (e.g.: midazolo1337cocalomegaspeedz00omgball) is necessary. Calling it a speedball is much more simplier and if required further explanation, then yes I'd just say "it's a midazolam and coke shot". My position still stands, words change, move on. Oh yeah my sn is "narutokun" btw; if you haven't learned how to read yet. I'm not gonna make any comments on the part of the racist content of your post.

Lemme ask you one thing. How the hell ima be racist to you if i dont even know what race you are? that shit just went right over your head.

Yea, i obviously aint learned to read yet but somehow I can write tho....Pretty cool trick huh? 8)

Nobody gotta come up with names for combinations. Just call it what the hell it is. nobody here is saying that you should have a slang name for every existing combo. just that you use the term for what it is which is a pretty simple concept. You dont call a regular bong a PHX or RooR. That aint what it is. Sure, a roor is a kind of bong, and meth and OC's or whatever is a up+down combo, but that is where the similarities end. If you cant understand this concept then i aint gonna argue with you about it no more, obviously you think you can call whatever you want a wrong name of your choosing so go head with that, make sure to refer to lots of things as speedballs when you associate with real drug users in real life, who will all laugh at you unless they also have the same lack of knowledge about drugs.

 

[LivingOnValium]

What I mean is: everyone's entitled their opinion, if I wanna call it a speedball I will.

To me it seems like you're just trying to win an argument. Sadly to be able to do that one must have a solid reasoning behind the statements beeing made. This is mandatory for the credibility on the board. Person ranting and arguing over nothing will end up as a joke. Do not say you don't care what others think because you wouldn't be now arguing and having such a high posting rate.

Speedball is a historical term like Laudanum (Opium tincture). It's been around enough time to be more than just slang term.

If make poppy pod tea you wouldn't call it laudanum, or at least you shouldn't.

Your posts in this thread indicate you never been involved with people selling drugs for living. If you one day will I advice you not to use term "speedball" for any other purpose than H+C. You wouldn't eaven get ripped off, you would lose all of your possessions while beeing pointed at a gun. And that's the least that would happen if you were lucky.

 

[El Guapo]

My favorite speedball is to crush up an Ambien and put it in Mountain Dew.

J/K by the way.

*this post is dedicated to narutokun

 

[narutokun]

To me it seems like you're just trying to win an argument. Sadly to be able to do that one must have a solid reasoning behind the statements beeing made. This is mandatory for the credibility on the board. Person ranting and arguing over nothing will end up as a joke. Do not say you don't care what others think because you wouldn't be now arguing and having such a high posting rate.

Speedball is a historical term like Laudanum (Opium tincture). It's been around enough time to be more than just slang term.

If make poppy pod tea you wouldn't call it laudanum, or at least you shouldn't.

Your posts in this thread indicate you never been involved with people selling drugs for living. If you one day will I advice you not to use term "speedball" for any other purpose than H+C. You wouldn't eaven get ripped off, you would lose all of your possessions while beeing pointed at a gun. And that's the least that would happen if you were lucky.

If that was supposed to be an argument, I've already won it, period. You're starting a whole other thing with that history shit, something that I never even mentioned. The things I mentioned and the reasons for why I mantain my position will be taken as correct, if not obvious, by someone who can actually THINK. I don't even understand what do you mean by a 'high posting rate', it seems like it bothers you that mine is higher than yours? If that's true, you're really pathetic. I never posted anything in order to augment my 'posting rate'.

 

[narutokun]

My favorite speedball is to crush up an Ambien and put it in Mountain Dew.

J/K by the way.

*this post is dedicated to narutokun

Haha thx that's cute

 

[LivingOnValium]

to: narukotum

Let's make a deal. You win I lose. OK?

Only you know the true meaning of speedball, i get it know.

I just thought you are posting to OD far more than the average bluelighters. But again, I was wrong and you were right.

please accept my sincere apologies.

 

[narutokun]

Lemme ask you one thing. How the hell ima be racist to you if i dont even know what race you are? that shit just went right over your head.

Yea, i obviously aint learned to read yet but somehow I can write tho....Pretty cool trick huh? 8)

Nobody gotta come up with names for combinations. Just call it what the hell it is. nobody here is saying that you should have a slang name for every existing combo. just that you use the term for what it is which is a pretty simple concept. You dont call a regular bong a PHX or RooR. That aint what it is. Sure, a roor is a kind of bong, and meth and OC's or whatever is a up+down combo, but that is where the similarities end. If you cant understand this concept then i aint gonna argue with you about it no more, obviously you think you can call whatever you want a wrong name of your choosing so go head with that, make sure to refer to lots of things as speedballs when you associate with real drug users in real life, who will all laugh at you unless they also have the same lack of knowledge about drugs.

I do not necessarily lack the knowledge about drugs because of the fact that I don't agree with you. Even though I've always known that the term speedball was IV coke+H, I don't consider knowing street names or that kind of shit the real important sector of drug knowledge. I take pharmacologic/chemical properties to be important. I even admit I don't like it when people mention brand names instead of pharmaceutical names (never standing where you do though, throwing in totals, telling ppl this is this and that is that, period). I have no problem if all you're into is slamming something in your veins, getting high and not giving a shit about what's going on and caring more about your street slang.
As for the racist thing, it was sort of implicit. I don't know what's your 'race' either, say skin tone if you prefer, but for me the way you write seems like you were african american, so that's why I took it as a racist comment. I'm sorry if I'm wrong about that.

 

[LivingOnValium]

I even admit I don't like it when people mention brand names instead of pharmaceutical names (never standing where you do though, throwing in totals, telling ppl this is this and that is that, period). I have no problem if all you're into is slamming something in your veins, getting high and not giving a shit about what's going on and caring more about your street slang.

So let's say one day you're gonna get some methamphetamine. Instead of asking for meth/shards/etc. you rather say: "Could i have some methamphetamine hydrochloride, please?"?

How about heroin? Its called smack/H/diesel/etc but no one calls it diacetylemorphine hydrochloride.

It's so obvious you know your pills but none of the street drugs this thread is about.

 

[narutokun]

Yes, I'm fortunate enough to not rely on street sources like you seem to. With the exeption of coke that would be. The only two times I bought DIAMORPHINE off the street I obviously asked for 'heroin'. You seem to exagerate on everything, really. That kind of extrapolation is meaningless dude...

 

[LivingOnValium]

Yes, I'm fortunate enough to not rely on street sources like you seem to. With the exeption of coke that would be. The only two times I bought DIAMORPHINE off the street I obviously asked for 'heroin'. You seem to exagerate on everything, really. That kind of extrapolation is meaningless dude...

Why do you eaven keep posting? You already declared that the argument that a speedball is just H+C is wrong. And the right answer is that's it's whatever you want.

 

[LivingOnValium]

Yes, I'm fortunate enough to not rely on street sources like you seem to. With the exeption of coke that would be. The only two times I bought DIAMORPHINE off the street I obviously asked for 'heroin'. You seem to exagerate on everything, really. That kind of extrapolation is meaningless dude...

First of all DIAMORPHINE is a brand name (At least in Uk). Heroin is a brand name too. It Was manufactured by Bayer in Germany before WWII. They changed the name to diamorphine due to heroin's bad stigma.

Next time you decide pick up some dope, do yourself a favour, and ask your dealer what a speedball means to him.