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What Is A Speedball?

Jamshyd said:
Although I totally agree with you, Lacy, I must say that IVing heroin at the comedown of meth binge felt exactly like H + C in 1 syringe, so I don't know...

And I agree with MC: I don't think the human body is capable of feeling more pleasure than it could with a speedball...
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iv'ing h after a meth binge is a relief, but i wouldnt say its even close to nearly touching the euphoria produced by a true speedball.

ill also add: i love mixing uppers n downers, and i used to refer to it as speedballing all the time--untill i tried the real thing. C + H... theres something magical about that mix that even heroin and meth cannot recreate. cocaine and oxycontin is the same deal--good, but no speedball.
 
Oh come on, you mean slamming a bottle of GABA with five Starbucks triple espressos ISN'T a speedball?

:D
 
I think that a combination of Coke + Morphine or Hydromorphone (injected simultaneously IV) also deserves the name "speedball"....
 
anyone know how the word speed got in there, if its cocaine only? Im not trying to fuck with you, ive just always wonderred.

the only fucker i know who speedballs is a crazy one legged motherfucker who came from back east and reminds me of the devil.

so ive you IV coke and heroin seperately... say 10 minutes apart... that doesnt count a a speedball either?
man, im losing all my speedball badges :(
 
I was just thinking that everyone's entitled their opinions so if someone wants to call a downer+upper IV shot a speedball they can. If you can think of a better term to designate such a mix I'd like to hear it. I'm sure whoever invented the term at first meant it for only coke+H but words aren't imutable, they change and their meanings change over time, even if it's a slang.
 
libertine said:
sorry for that, but Burroughs called a shot of coke and morphine a speedball =D
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cuz when he said it, he was in mexico and he had only two options; shitty h+coke and lab grade morphine+coke. he was desperate at the moment. rest in peace, allah rahmet eylesin, he was a holy man
 
Niandra LaDes said:
so ive you IV coke and heroin seperately... say 10 minutes apart... that doesnt count a a speedball either?
man, im losing all my speedball badges :(
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As I said, I'm quite open concerning the definition of a speedball (like I don't minf if it's Morphine instead of Heroin); but the thing that really makes it a speedball is the 2 substances shot at the same time, kicking at the same moment in the brain.

See, LSD adn Extasy is Candyflip even if you take the LSD way before the XTC, or the other way; but what makes a speedball is not that much about the substances involved (Coke & H), but really about the simultaneous IV administration....

A candyflip is a combination of 2 substances, a speedball is a way of taking 2 substances.
 
lacey k said:
COLUMN A (Uppers):

-Methamphetamine
-Adderall (Dextroamphetamine)
-Ritalin (Methylphenidate)
-Ephedrine
-Pseudoephedrine
-Phentermine
-Caffeine
-Concerta (And other shitty ADD meds go here)
-Khat

COLUMN B (Downers):

-Hydrocodone
-Oxycodone
-Diazepam
-Alprazolam
-Tramadol
-Kratom
-Codeine
-Alcohol
-Poppy pod tea
-Opium

HINT:

If you take any substance from column A, and mix it with any substance from column B, It will not be a speedball. I

HINT 2:
If you take any substance that is not heroin and mix it with any substance that is not cocaine, it will also not be a speedball.

Just a friendly public service announcement. Why do I care? Its a insult to a proper speedball to compare it to any of that other crap. there is only one speedball. and its fuckin amazing. So stop callin every damn stimulating drug done with a depressant, a speedball. It just confuses people and dont make sense.

Nobody would call doing DMT with mushrooms "candyflipping" just becuz candyflipping is acid and E both psychedelics, and the DMT+shrooms is taking two psychedelics together.

Nobody would say that they are taking DXM, and smoking a cigarette and call it smokin a dippy (pcp dipped cig) just cuz they have a dissociative in their body at the same time as they are smokin a cigarette.

nobody seems to have a problem callin shit what it is when it come to things like that, So why does everybody use speedball like its some kind of generic term for any kind of up + down drug combo?
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"If God made anything better, he'd have kept it for himself" WS Burroughs

When he said that, it was in the 50's and the designer drugs had not been around. So the best combo I have done nicknamed (by me) the Holy Quaternary, is fentanyl HCl in 95/2.5/2.5 H20 /IPA/cetyl alcohol, the BEST cocaine analogue WIN 36,065-2, the antihistamine tripelenamine (aka parabenzamine or PBZ) and finally (and you cannot mix heroin HCl with this because it causes the heroin base to precipitate) pentobarbital in H20/EtOH (I would use methaqualone but I cannot get it to dissolve in anything injectable over pH 3 or using too much warm alcohol) . This is an exquisitely layered shot (if I take the time to toot my own horn here.)

First you taste the alcohol, next the WIN 36,065-2 gives you "that hummin' buzz" (quicker and better than cocaine HCl because of its lower effect on NE and greater effect on DA /5HT), then the tripelenamine takes effect followed quickly by the grand daddy of euphorigenic opioids, fentanyl, and gives that pleasant high that we have come to love so much and finally at the tail end, the pentobarbital comes in and finishes it off like a glass of Louis XIII Cognac after a meal and a Cuban Monte Cristo #2.

But you are right: It needs something from the cocaine type stimulants and something from the opioids or forget it. Man I can still taste it now. That is the ultimate shot!!!:) :) :)

MobiusDick
 
narutokun said:
I'm sure whoever invented the term at first meant it for only coke+H but words aren't imutable, they change and their meanings change over time, even if it's a slang.
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^ Good point.
 
^thanks lola, it's hardly ever that anyone agrees with something i say really
 
on the east coast we call oc+cocaine in the same line a poor mans speed ball; agreed that a speedball is one thing and one thing only
 
I agree. They also must be an A) Heroin and a B) Cocaine both IV'd from the same solution. Can't be separate shots.

For once we agree!

Anything else is just trying to sound like a badass for the wrong reason.
 
IM bumpin this thread just cuz that ridiculous "pseudoephedrine speedball" thread annoys me everytime i see it above this one.
 
Had my first real speedball a couple nights ago...I can't think of any words right now that can do the high any justice, so I won't bother. But goddamn...coke and H are the indisputable yin and yang of drugs, that's for certain.
 
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