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What has this crap done to me? 2c-i+acid

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AlmostArtafact

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about four years ago over a years time i consumed about 1 gram of 2c-i, and 150-200 hits of acid.Ok now my tracers (3+ years later) are still ginormous and i dont smoke reefer or anything anymore, just smoke cigarettes and drink.I feel like my brain is mush/some lab rats brain.For instance, one day I said to someone who was talking about sex , "Yes Maaam!" Now in my head when I think, I always hear...yes mam....yes mam,....yes mam. And I think about this person and talk to them a lot so its like if she says,did you leave the house last night..."yes mam." ALL because I said YES MAM (in a joking sense) one time now its like its etched into my brain.Like someone took their thumb print and pushed it in my brain and it just left a permanent thumb print.THATS HOW EVERYTHING WORKS!Because of it ive learned a lot about how the brain works, but this is just annoying.And I have seriously said "yes mam" in my head to this chick OOVER 50+ maybe close to 100 times, its like my brain is mush and is super easy to be reprogrammed.
it all started with the mush process after the 2ci, I can come up with more examples too, it happens all the time just like that,just in various ways and forms because the brain is complicated. Man what to people know about this 2c crap?

plus heart burn from hell

Also,I had an experience with the cops while tripping nuts and he kept staring at me and i mean he had the lights on and everything, you knew it was a horrible experience, and something about him knowing i was growing mushrooms because he didnt know what this crap was or whatever.Either way to this day, you mention hte word 2c-i and i can feel my brain tighten up and twinge. THATS ANOTHER THING!Jeez when I have different emotions, I can physically feel it lighting up different parts of my brain.If sad or whatever, it always feels like not pressure but some like my brain is working in a certain spot like bottom left (just giving you an example).Its not like happy on the bottom right, sad on the bottom left, its like certain SPECIFIC circumstances trigger certain neuro whatever and triggers certain part of my brain, not just happy said etc.the in between emotions like exhileration+peace+comfort because of news I got from someone, triggers a certain part of my brain,and I feel it.ALSO happened after the 2c-i.
 
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LSD can mess with minds in strange ways. Its happened to me, i wont go into detail how but sometimes it can get annoying, you just have to embrace is and try to ignore it. It could be underline schizophrenia that psychedelics can bring out perhaps.
 
Go see a doctor. It sounds very serious. We cannot possibly diagnose you over the internet. Your symptoms (if you are not just making it all up) have never been heard of before. I doubt they are related to tripping. You probably have brain cancer. Get an MRI or something. Sheesh. Or maybe what you need is a psychiatrist. Certainly Bluelight can't help you.
 
cRAP MAN i FIGURED IT WAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE 2C BECAUSE IT WAS AN RC.iVE MIXED ACID+2CI,mushrooms and an x pill at the same time, and this was all when I first started doing drugs.I indulged super hard for about two years and then stopped for the most part.I went from 0-60 pretty quick, like from 0 xpills to 2+ times a week, trippping the other days, smoking a lot of reefer, and everything in that nature(16-17 at the time) then when I was 18 started iving opiates and stopped everything else for the MOST part, 22 now havent ripped in like 3 years or ived drugs in 3 1/2 years. Nobody knows articles about 2ci i can read up on besides erowid?
I just feel like my brain is mush lol. I stacked hallucinigens quite often etc.

Man I wish I could talk to a chemist or something that could explain if this were possible in the right circumstances/brain patterns etc. I went to the doctor and got a ct and mri to no avail.They werent nesicarrily looking for this but it would have shown up either way.If there are any chemists/anyone who might know out there that can elaborate in further detail please drop me a PM, or just some of you genius blue lighters that know more than I could ever know.As I said, If I had a certain thought pattern or something could this possible trigger this like even if it were if hell froze over.
 
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I dont think I need a psychiatrist or anything,I mean if I absolutely had to I could slow down my thoughts and down to the 1s and 0s (1 being on 0 being off and as it "PIs" out it turns into 2s 3s etc etc etc)figure out exactly what happened etc and make it stop.I guess thats what I need to do, just wondering if some excessive benges or whatever could have caused it.
 
I am sorry to say, but people rarely describe conditions similar to yours. You aren't a hypochondriacal person worry a lot about HPPD. Quite the contrary, you are pretty calm about your condition.
And the best idea is to see a doctor. Whatever caused it: 2C-I, LSD, or a mix of 2C-I or LSD, you can't go back in the past and fix your mistakes.

It is possible that you haven't got any sort of brain damage, i.e. drugs didn't induce death of neurons, but brought to the surface some kind of mental disorder you were predisposed to.
I am no specialist, and I can't diagnose you over the internet, but I have a good feeling that your condition is treatable. You'll likely get prescribed some medication.

Also, I can't see how it relates to brain cancer. For example, Oliver Sacks described a pretty wide range of odd disorders in his book "The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat", and AFAIR none of them related to brain cancer(though some of them are related to various kinds of brain damage).

And, please, let us know how it goes.
 
I doubt there is much a doctor could do for you. perhaps a psychiatrist or neurologist. I would just do tons of memory and association games, like they do with people who have had brain trauma because that's basically what it sounds like happened.
 
oh god the thought loops, that's why i smashed my vial. smash the vial, smash the loops

i think you'll be OK with time, if you stop taking powerful drugs

the human body is a very durable thing, scars heal

for instance, something i found quite inspiring were these fucked up battery cage chickens:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r81REuNkAfI&

see how horrible they look? their raw bones are exposed, eek

well these are the same chickens 8 months on, looking particularly healthy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4D3WXEC4W8&

moral of the story is shit heals, give it time, dont stress, eat healthy, do exercise :)

also you might get better feedback on a different subforum
 
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You won't find anything specifically about 2CI, but you can look up HPPD and PTSD in relation to psychedelics in general.

That sounds like a lot of tripping in a short time, it'll almost certainly have effected your personality and the way your brain functions. But that doesn't mean that the way you feel now is permanent, I mean, if you've trained yourself to think and perceive things in this way then you should be able to train yourself out of it. And you say your brain feels easily programmable, why not try to program it better? Practise concentration and learn about something. And yeah ^ eat healthy and excercise.

Of course, if it gets (more) serious, see a doctor. And it might be worth checking there's nothing physically wrong, you've had a CT and MRI but there may be something that wouldn't show up like that, or that the doctors didn't see because they weren't looking for it. It's possible, but I think the chances are it's from tripping so much.
 
150-200 hits of acid is not a little, sure people do get away with that and more but it can be enough for HPPD is what I mean, especially if you are sensitive to it which it definitely sounds like you are. What's more, 2C-I seems to be known to produce HPPD more easily than a lot of other psychedelics.

Sorry to hear about all this. HPPD can not be treated very well, don't know about your other symptoms or if the fall under only that denominator - but benzo's should be able to dial done some of those apparently feedback loops and cascades it sounds like are roaming in your mind. The good news is that time usually reverses the effects but it really depends on a lot of things how fast that will be for you. The benzo's won't help with feeling like your brain is mush, that would probably only get more flattened or foggy. And benzo dependence is also really a huge bitch so be careful. Maybe they will suggest something really different like serotonin antagonists or antipsychotics. With the latter you should be DAMN careful but as a first line of defense it might be preferable to progressive derealization or things like that.

I'd seek treatment though, check in and see what they have to say about it. But understand that in different places medical professionals can overreact with real variation. In some places they know what they are dealing with and in other places they are just clueless and will want to get completely inappropriate treatment programs started. Do not just agree with anything they say and get a second opinion, even if its from your parents or a couple of friends well versed on these topics.
 
I agree with the above.

A family practictioner is NOT who you want to see. You need to find someone who has experience with heavy drug users, probably a psychiatrist or neurologist - but make sure they have experience with drug users! Otherwise I feel they're just gonna slap you on an SSRI right off the bat.

Also, if you did 200 hits of LSD and a gram of 2C-I in one year as well as a lot of ecstasy, you probably had a serious mental disorder already. I don't mean that in an insulting way. I mean you probably had some level of depression or psychiatric disorder that predisposed you to it. Most neurotypical people do not feel the compulsion to use drugs with that high of a frequency.

If you consider a normal dose of 2C-I to be 10-15mg, you basically did 100 doses of 2C, 200 doses of LSD, unknown amount of ecstasy and whatever else was in the pills (speed, meth). A year has 52 weeks in it. You were basically fucked up 24/7 if you spread it out or you had some epic fucking binges. You need to not be thinking about a short-term fix, but rather hope that in 6 years from now you'll feel better.

Good luck - exercise and healthy living will go a long way for you.
 
I don't mean to be preachy but I feel the title should be changed to "what have I done to myself". I mean a gram of 2c-I in a one years time? WTF were you thinking was going to happen? Don't you think there were warning signs to stop maybe half way thru that gram? Why trip so much/huge? And why even bother with 2c-I if you had that much acid? Just curious.

Personally I could only take 2c-I a handful of times before the effects on my thyroid became frightening and too much to bear. these were doses under 20mgs mind you and I like to think I learned my lesson with that stuff pretty quickly.

Like I said, hate to be preachy but I read more and more about this kinda stuff and can only count the days until someone fucks up BIG time being irresponsible with these extremely powerful chemicals.
 
I have gone to doctors and psychiatrists for residual brain problems resulting from drug abuse and they were no help at all. The fact is, even if they have a good understanding of how the brain works (which they don't) that's not the same as knowing how to fix it when something goes wrong.

I'm afraid you're going to have to heal yourself, through diet, meditation, yoga, exercise, patience, whatever.
 
Yeah I think your best bet would be to start eating healthy, and exercise frequently. Good luck man, I'm sure it will get better with time and the above advice. <3
 
I second healthy eating, lots of exercise and you might benefit from starting up piracetam. It sounds like you need to restrengthen your brain. The mind and body can and will fall apart with abuse... it is up to you to do something about it if you find yourself in a bind.

There is no "quick fix," but with dedicated work you may be able to help yourself. I'd suggest taking piracetam (2-3 grams) along with DMAE (a few hundred mgs) or alpha-GPC on a daily basis to help memory function and a high quality fish oil supplement (the more the merrier with this one, I take 5-10 grams every day).

And quit smoking cigarettes.
 
Meditations, you need to learn to center your mind, so that you can climb back into your wiring and fix the things which you haphazardly rearranged.

METAPROGRAMMING...

Not to down other people's responses of course...the healthy eating and exercise is certainly a must as well, and doctors....well maybe doctors could help. But if you ask me, you're the one with the blueprints, you are the one who went in there and fucked shit up. If you learn to meditate and learn to recall your past efficiently, maybe you can 'rewind' the process back to square one, and thus reclaim your calm sanity. :)

i've done some strange re-wiring myself, 3 or so years of 3-4 trips a month on avg...i only did 2c-I like twice, on accident though (sold to me as mescaline, those bastards >:(). but lots and lots of acid, mescaline and mushrooms. i had a year or two of extreme strange preceptual effects, as well as nagging echoes or re-occuring neuro-patterns as you mention (the yes maam thing). Ultimately, what saved myself, was cleaning my energy, though finding health in body, and finding centering of the mind through meditation.

best of progresses friend :)
you're not alone, if we ever meet, i can help shaman you out of that hole
i promise :) :)
 
sad to hear about your symptoms OP.

this is why the only RC i touch is 4-aco-dmt. nothing else. i just don't trust them.

i knew a girl who did 2ci pretty frequently, and she sees shit like 24/7, way worse than you. she did it everyday for like a month tho or something. i don't know her personally, but she was friends of one of my friends.

with enough time, you may begin to see some progress. seeing a psych could help by getting you medications for anxiety maybe, but they may misdiagnose you and think you're like OCD, or you may end up telling them about your drug use and then you'll get squat, so i don't think going to the psych would probably turn out to well. plus they may think you're crazy.

i agree with JBrandon, about how this is going to take some time to heal.
 
wow this is sad to read - compulsive drug taking + psychedelics generally spells huge trouble -

You actually wake up, move your head and have tracers??? Huge fucking tracers - wow man, you rewired your brain! Enjoy it while it lasts, don't regret it - LEARN FROM it, and enjoy what you see, I'm sure it's distracting at firast but I'm also also sure it's something you can get used to.

Treat your body and your mind well, and look at your inner demons, and embrace them, then show them the door.
 
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