I've been clean for a year, I use to take MDMA regularly, my concern is that when I get really drunk now (this bits hard to explain so I will try my best) I seem to think there are more people in the room then there is?! I don't interact with these people, I don't even know that they are there until they are gone, I notice the lack of what "was" there. Its the same as being in a room with 5 people but not paying attention to them and then instantly in the blink of an eye its just 2 people. The episodes when the "people" are there last for about 30 seconds. I don't notice them appear I only notice the lack of them when they instantly disappear. Any ideas?
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amapola
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Mel22
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If I'm interpreting your post correctly, then i've experienced this numerous times. It's as though suddenly I feel like a person/multiple people have left the room - like there was someone else there that has slipped away. I know the entire time there wasn't really an extra person, but I just can't shake that feeling that someone's missing...I miss their presence in the room, even though it never existed.
Is that what you're describing? Or am I way off the mark here?
Is that what you're describing? Or am I way off the mark here?
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When you say you used MDMA regularly, what do you mean by that..once week for several years etc. In general MDMA has proven to be a fairly benign substance I estimate i took 500+ doses over 7-8 years and I'm still walking and talking 
I would also ask why you are linking this to your MDMA use, I find with similar with similar issues e.g. I suffer from bouts of derealisation, that its the way you react to them that the real problem. Reality is a flighty thing at best !
Being arachnophobic i often see spiders in my periphery vision but I have just learnt to ignore it.
I'm not belittling your concerns, if its causing you genuine concern i would seek medical advice
I would also ask why you are linking this to your MDMA use, I find with similar with similar issues e.g. I suffer from bouts of derealisation, that its the way you react to them that the real problem. Reality is a flighty thing at best !
Being arachnophobic i often see spiders in my periphery vision but I have just learnt to ignore it.
I'm not belittling your concerns, if its causing you genuine concern i would seek medical advice
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bec.x
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Nope, this is not anxiety, if it is what I think it is. And probably not derealization per se either.
I mean, I have also experienced it. Like "hey, where did everyone go", because I could swear that there were several other persons present at the room a second ago.
I also got it first after a period of MDMA abuse (several pills per night each weekend, for a couple of months), and now I sometimes get it when I'm drunk or on some kind of stimulants. And, my boyfriend also gets this.
"Shadowpeople syndrome"?
However, it does not bother me that much, as it does not happen too often and does not go beyond the minor mindfuck factor.
I mean, I have also experienced it. Like "hey, where did everyone go", because I could swear that there were several other persons present at the room a second ago.
I also got it first after a period of MDMA abuse (several pills per night each weekend, for a couple of months), and now I sometimes get it when I'm drunk or on some kind of stimulants. And, my boyfriend also gets this.
"Shadowpeople syndrome"?
However, it does not bother me that much, as it does not happen too often and does not go beyond the minor mindfuck factor.
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I have never suffered the above symptoms and wasn't suggesting my derealisation had anything to do with my MDMA use, I had this before using anyhow.
But I do agree with bec.x, perception and reality are not particularly stable things our minds / brains make a pretty good job or presenting a consistent world for us, a bit like the continuity guys that work on films
Just read a few books on quantum physics, Stephen Hawking's work i especially good for those without an academic background and you'll soon realize that the world /universe is a wield old place.
I don't doubt your symptoms for a moment, whats more important is how you react to the experience, you can get anxious about it and let it bother you or you can try and see it more as an insignificant glitch in the way you are seeing the world.
I often see all sorts of wierd stuff at random times mostly for fleeting moments or have starnge feelings about people or places, I think most people do but they just dont talk about it, its part of the human condition IMO.
Take Care now and try and revel in the strangeness of our universe
I have never suffered the above symptoms and wasn't suggesting my derealisation had anything to do with my MDMA use, I had this before using anyhow.
But I do agree with bec.x, perception and reality are not particularly stable things our minds / brains make a pretty good job or presenting a consistent world for us, a bit like the continuity guys that work on films
Just read a few books on quantum physics, Stephen Hawking's work i especially good for those without an academic background and you'll soon realize that the world /universe is a wield old place.
I don't doubt your symptoms for a moment, whats more important is how you react to the experience, you can get anxious about it and let it bother you or you can try and see it more as an insignificant glitch in the way you are seeing the world.
I often see all sorts of wierd stuff at random times mostly for fleeting moments or have starnge feelings about people or places, I think most people do but they just dont talk about it, its part of the human condition IMO.
Take Care now and try and revel in the strangeness of our universe
suessmayr
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This sounds very similar to something which would often happen to me at festivals, always towards the end of the day when I'd have consumed many pills and be pretty strung out. I would be standing in the crowd with whomever I was with and suddenly and unexplainably become convinced that there was something on the ground behind me - like a table or a chair, or something I might fall over. It had nothing to do with fear. It was just a keen perception of some type of object that I could not see.
So I would constantly be looking behind me, or trying not to move backwards, for fear of falling over something which I knew but didn't know did not exist!
So I would constantly be looking behind me, or trying not to move backwards, for fear of falling over something which I knew but didn't know did not exist!
Captain.Heroin
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Someone else explained this to me.
I believe your mind has become accustomed to acknowledging people, so when there are few, you forget there's only like one other person with you.
I believe your mind has become accustomed to acknowledging people, so when there are few, you forget there's only like one other person with you.
As with so many things I think (for what its worth) thats its there anxiety caused by the disturbance in perception thats the issue not the actual experience itself.
Like I said reality of a flighty thing and our perception of it is not as stable as it sometimes seems, feeing a bit weird from time to time isn't anything to be to concreted about, in fact I think its perfectly normal to have shifts in perception of things, most people are just to stitched off to notice
Like I said reality of a flighty thing and our perception of it is not as stable as it sometimes seems, feeing a bit weird from time to time isn't anything to be to concreted about, in fact I think its perfectly normal to have shifts in perception of things, most people are just to stitched off to notice
Alice Practice
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Very interesting. After becoming drastically altered from nitrous I have experienced indica highs where it begins to seem like several people, or possibly projections of myself are sitting in rows along the walls. I can't decide if this has anything in common with your symptom or not. It seems like a phenomenon of the mind, something it wants to fill in.