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What happens when you have too much MDMA?

pontifex01 said:
^Ismene I've noticed in your posts you're inevitably highly opinionated and take a totally polarised stance. You actually mean to tell us that (a) the serotonin model for depression is "total bollocks", and (b) that having made this discovery, which neurochemists are yet to make, was sufficient to prevent any further come-downs. Well fuck me, that makes me and probably most people in the Dark Side feel a bit silly then. Why don't you hop over there and enlighten everyone with your hard-tested knowledge?

Anyway, the most MDMA I ever took was around 700mg by mistake, in one go. The come-up was immense, trails etc. which just faded out to white light. I don't remember anything after that except my mates told me I was writhing around on the floor in the club. They dragged me outside to cool off (it was December) and I had a seizure in the parking lot.
For the following two weeks I suffered from severe anxiety and insomnia, and often experienced something called "Exploding Head Syndrome" (look it up on wiki). After that I had the worst come-down of my life, which triggered a severe depression which lasted about 6 months, which gradually diminished into GAD (general anxiety disorder), which in turn lasted about a year after that.
It has to be said that at the time that this happened I was having a lot of rather nasty issues at home and school (I was 17) - I'm by no means saying that .7g of MDMA gave me a year-long come-down, but it definitely tipped me waaaay over the edge.
It's one of the worst drugs to abuse in terms of the emotional instability it can cause.

That being said, my best mate regularly drops between 10 and 30 pills a night when he goes out raving (which he does very often) and he's a highly emotionally stable person (albeit having severe issues with drug abuse lol). Everybody is different I suppose.
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The questions around serotonin and its relationship with mood could be debated on here for days and we would be no further forward. However there is no doubt that a significant number of studies have shown SSRIs not to be effective in the treatment of depression, that much we can be sure of. I took MDXX pretty much every week for about 8 years and then a bit more sporadically for another couple or so. Having taken it for such along period it wouldn't be unusual for me to be taking more than half a gram over a night out for a number of years.

I now suffer from depression and have tried 4 different SSRIs and they just made me ill, in some cases very ill, I'm a single case but for me that throws the case for MDXX damaging or lowering your serotonin levels and / or the case for SSRIs for the treatment of depression. As I say that's just the one case but the evidence on both sides is out there for all to read and opinionate on.

As for people doing 10-20 "pills", even back in the day I knew people that did that kind of number and usually ended up a gurning sweaty mess in the corner, but what's a "pill" if its only got 10mgs of MDXX in it then 30 would be fine. (it's all down to purity in the end ;))

The only real comedown I suffered from MDXX was nasty nausea for days afterwards which got worse over the years, but I have a weird immune system and I think I may have started to become intolerant to the substance through exposure, as for suicide Tuesdays I'm not really convinced the effect was any worse than what I'd get from doing a whole shit load of speed, standard stim comedown IMO.
 
What happens when you have too much MDMA, have a look at gibberings:D

But too much MDMA usually makes me throw up, projectile vomit style! but after that feel grrrrrrrrrreat:)
 
The closest I've had to a whitey would be being zombified.

Just utterly amped up after constantly re-dosing 6-700mg over the night. Nowhere near as pleasant as just having ~200mg or working your way up in wee stages!
 
There is nothing like a massive dose of mdma lol, I hate small doses. It is all about doing a gram in a night for me and getting the jaw rattling and the eyes spinning unable to talk because the jaw is that tight, tripping like fuck thinking that wheelie bins are groups of people and that.

Them days are over now for me but they were great at the time.
 
IME it's only the 1st doses that really do anything.

I know peeps who've eaten 30+ decent MDMA pills over the course of 2 days straight and they've appeared reasonably sober.

I reckon if they'd bombed just 5 in one go, they'd of been much worse/better off.
 
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Yeah agreed. I was 'babysitting' someone taking their first pill so thought I'd do mine in bits so I could keep a reasonable eye on them and make sure they were happy, but it ended with them looking after me as I wanted to do nothing but shut my eyes and stand still in the middle of the club for hours. Got a decent dose down me but in instalments and ended up in between places, was rubbish. Music sounded shite, people around me may as well have been shop dummies.
 
^ Ugh, I hate that feeling when you've underdosed and you just know it's not going to happen even if you keep topping up. Complete waste of serotonin.

Better to do 2 big(ish) doses than 4 medium ones.
 
I find if I push it above the 200mg mark in one dose I tend to black out and not remember a lot of the night - depends what you're after I guess. Personally I hate paying good money for a gig and then having to be told about it the day after
 
mrsusan said:
^ Ugh, I hate that feeling when you've underdosed and you just know it's not going to happen even if you keep topping up. Complete waste of serotonin.
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Yeah, I recall having some FBs which crumbled up in my pocket and were taken in chunks in a club with really ludicrous OTT security. First half of the night was going around the place avoiding bouncers and complaining that I wasn't high enough, second half I can't remember but people said I looked a mess, shuffling about with a bright blue tongue and my eyes closed. I've pretty much got to never take bits of pills again.
 
I took a dab of a friend's stash of crystal on her birthday last year and she ended up making me take the rest because she was fucked and didn't want to carry it around. There was about 300mg there. Bear in mind that I've taken MDMA a handful of times in the last few years and on this particular night I'd also dropped bromo-dragonfly and swigged the best part of half a bottle of rum.

Cue total blackout, dickhead behaviour, removal by bouncers and proceeding to walk the wrong way back from my mate's house in the wee hours, taking in a tour of Old Trafford, Moss Side and Hulme, skinning up and smoking a joint with some random feral youths on the way and making unwanted blissful phone calls to sleeping friends before finally stumbling home.

Funnily enough, guess what I've got in my possession this weekend for the first time since that occasion?
 
Mailmonkey said:
your dignity?
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Haha. Hilarious.

Can't say I've ever taken too much. Had 200mg of amazing crystal, with GHB, in a club, and ended up rolling about on the dancefloor. Felt brilliant, though. Strong doses have caused me strong anxiety, just while coming up. The LD-50 is 4500mg, so I reckon you'd need loads to end up in real danger. You don't really hear of people dying from doing a G - it's always pretty, middle-class, girls that have took one or two pills that make the news.
 
a mate of mine did take too much once, was hilarious mind you.. basically the guy selling it had a crystal that weighed bout 700mg or so and said to my mate i'll give you this for free if you munch it whole, needless to say my mate necked it then bout 30 mins later was writhing about on the floor, eyes in the back of his head and his jaw doing laps, never seen someone look so messy! he was loving it until he puked everywhere
 
Nothing good. You just chew your face off more, get sore eyes from the ridiculous levels of eye wobbles and a very bad batch of brain zaps after. I've dropped 0.7g of bang on crystal at once before when I had a tollerance. We did in about 14g between 6 of us on the first night of a festival. Not big, not clever, don't get a tollerance cos then it just doesn't work no matter how much you eat, the brain zaps and sleep paralysis do though.

The very thought of it has inspired me to bosh the rest of my valium and head to bed.
 
Its odd how loads of people puke coming up on MDMA in all those years it never happened to me, I reckon the biggest single dose of crystal I ever did was around the 300mgs mark.

As I've already said though if I was on it Saturday / Sunday I'd be feeling proper sick Monday and Tuesday and the problem got worse and worse, i the end it was like food poisoning I'd be throwing up for at least 2 days.
 
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