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What drugs do you like that are not seen in a good light?

^ I like all those too. ;) (maybe not alprazolam although do use it as a tool on occasion for sleep.)

And I can say morphine is my favorite opiate for all the talk of it being not orally beneficial. Heroin and codeine turn into morphine in the body when taken.
 
In Australia the overwhelming majority of people who use drugs see opioids as dirty, dangerous and unpleasent drugs. We have a very small opioid using population so the furthest most drug users will go with opioids is a few 5mg oxycodone or a IM morphine injection emergency department style.

I have had people who IV MDMA and methamphetamine (with less then ideal injection equipment) in the same sitting tell me straight faced that snorting heroin is as bad as it gets.
 
I have used most every drug. All of them were viewed negatively by everyone in my life. I’m coming from a temperance family in a temperance society so kind of expected. But I do appreciate drugs that are regarded by drug users as nuisance.

I really enjoy salvia. It’s by far one of my favorite drugs. Truly an incredible substance. I’m eager to try the oral mucosa route but I have to recognize that I’m not a mentally stable person which is a shame because I love using drugs.

I love tobacco. I think it’s a damned shame that everyone is just hoping to live into their eighties and nineties. I don’t mind leaving a bit early if I can enjoy my time while I’m here.

Alcohol is an absolutely filthy drug in my mind. It’s an orally ingested inhalant but god damned sometimes it hits just right and I feel like I’ve found the fountain of youth.

Cocaine is a dirty fucking drug that makes you likely to die of a heart attack. But god damned is that shit just a fine fucking feeeling. It’s like heaven on earth for no reason at all and with no significant take away of having been to heaven besides the desire to return. Stupid fucking drug that I absolutely adore.

Morphine is not a stupid drug and I absolutely adore it. I’ve thrown my life away chasing morphine highs. I fucking love morphine. Send me morphine. That said no one who has to take morphine is fond of it. By the time a rational individual determines you need morphine, your quality of life is likely utter shit. God if I could buy it on the street corner I’d never stay clean.

DXM was very fun but using it during the teenage years slows development dramatically. Would not recommend though I have good memories.

Sex is by far my favorite drug and my cock my favorite vein.

But the best drug I’ve ever used by far is amphetamine. It’s just a beautiful chemical. A fucking gorgeous chemical.

Psychedelics are overrated as drugs and are more akin to tools for mind alterations of a permanent nature. Short term trips for fun arent
My thing at all. I barely understand reality sober and psychedelics just turn me into a fucking idiot with no short term memory. E

MDMA makes me too hot.

Drugs in general are just beautiful things.

Don’t stop because of other people.

Don’t stop because of health.

Stop because you want
To
Live your life as your self.

There’s no other reason that
Makes sense.

But god damned being addicted to some substances is just so endlessly gratifying you could waste a life being nothing but a junky.

God bless the fucking junky.

They’re a national treasure.
 
JackARoe said:
Salvia. Although it has a few niche fans that understand it.

With all the talk of fentanyl not being as euphoric and cozy as heroin I imagine it is one hell of a pain killer if used for that.
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i have a friend with symptoms of nerve damage and he always used to tell me about it.. i felt like my experiences with salvia's body high kind of felt like what he was describing with his body failing. lol... so after i injured my back and was having the same problems, i was afraid to try it.. i tried it when my back was a bit more healed, and it didn't really seem to bring out any negative symptoms, but generally it's a pretty dysphoric body high other than when i'm getting ego loss and tripping on it, then it's kind of just uncertain how that's can feel if i can even understand what feeling is at all.. but when i get back from the trip, it reminds me of a shitty feeling weed high.

i personally love the ego loss from salvia and had lots of cool trips... not a good body high imo.. actually reminds me of having physical problems, although i think that's just a trip and the body isn't actually failing or anything. like i get pins and needles, numbness and headaches from nerve damage, and salvia didn't really exacerbate that. i honestly thought it would though.
 
foodcrisis said:
i personally love the ego loss from salvia and had lots of cool trips... not a good body high imo.. actually reminds me of having physical problems, although i think that's just a trip and the body isn't actually failing or anything. like i get pins and needles, numbness and headaches from nerve damage, and salvia didn't really exacerbate that. i honestly thought it would though.
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I remember you saying you did like Salvia. Listen, the body high, once understood is amazing. Also it numbs some emotional issues that can bother a person much like a dissociative I believe. Enables some healing. I could not get past an emotion once and after the Salvia trip I could not remember what was bothering me. Sort of put my mind in order in a way I could not. It is an art to use it as an ally. I get it though. I use it in dark and silence and it pins me to the couch and I get healing. Others may not be so lucky and get flung off a balcony. (I am sort of kidding but disrespect the plant and it will beat you in a fight)

But most people have an opinion on all drugs. Either good or bad. I doubt someone would say cocaine is good but heroin is bad. Ok I had one friend that thought that but most other people I knew used a little heroin to come down from coke. But once the Reagans came into office in the 80's an all out drug war was started and ALL drugs were bad. Go to youtube and search Ronald Reagan talking about LSD. lol Alcohol is very accepted.
 
JackARoe said:
I remember you saying you did like Salvia. Listen, the body high, once understood is amazing. Also it numbs some emotional issues that can bother a person much like a dissociative I believe. Enables some healing. I could not get past an emotion once and after the Salvia trip I could not remember what was bothering me. Sort of put my mind in order in a way I could not. It is an art to use it as an ally. I get it though. I use it in dark and silence and it pins me to the couch and I get healing. Others may not be so lucky and get flung off a balcony. (I am sort of kidding but disrespect the plant and it will beat you in a fight)

But most people have an opinion on all drugs. Either good or bad. I doubt someone would say cocaine is good but heroin is bad. Ok I had one friend that thought that but most other people I knew used a little heroin to come down from coke. But once the Reagans came into office in the 80's an all out drug war was started and ALL drugs were bad. Go to youtube and search Ronald Reagan talking about LSD. lol Alcohol is very accepted.
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you know salvia and tripping in general has me feeling pretty crazy, like i know some of it is memory and experiences that really don't have anything to do with me or aren't any reality or whatever... but my mother had some type of stroke recently, and she was experiencing delusions and what not, and i couldn't shake the feeling that i saw and heard her before while tripping.. i think i'm having some problems with worrying my sister isn't going to have kids and she's going to regret it.. so high dose tripping kind of might just be fucking with me.. like i feel like i actually saw the future with some of the experiences hearing things my mother was saying. probably just my mind playing tricks on me, although there are some people that believe seeing the future and stuff is real.. i feel like if i do salvia again, i might have a pretty shitty and too intense time for my liking. i'm sure i could handle it and not need to go to the psychward and be medicated or anything. i want to smoke some of the salvia i have and might, hoping to see something good and get some hope, but honestly probably not gonna happen.

i've heard people say salvia works on the brain in a way that causes a lot of people dysphoria in the body too. i really don't like smoking just the leaf and not getting ego loss either.

the stuff about my sister having kids is definitely in my head. i feel like she is kind of into drugs because of me, and she is alive cause i begged my parents to have another kid. so i feel like it's my responsibility.. definitely something that bothers me sober and can be bad when tripping.
 
Synthetic cannabis. All those " intoxicating hemp concentrates" getting bad press from kiddos taking 3000 milligrams and going to the hospital. Politicians using them to look like they are poisonous hazardous chemicals turning your kids into drug addicts.

Police departments raiding legal shops. Now even our own legal marijuana brothers are turning against us because we are hurting their bottom line. We are on the same side THC either derived from hemp or marijuana has the same side effects.

It's so wild to see everyone loose their shit over a loophole in the 2018 hemp farm bill. Delta 8, 10 hhc, thc9 hemp concentrates all are being systematically villinized simply because of it popularity.

Instead of working with the legal hemp companies to come up with reasonable testing or regulations, everyone wants to arbitrarily ban these compounds outright.

We are at odds with everyone simotaniously. Yet popularity is exploding because of its practical applications. Pain management, anxiety, stress, recreational use, are all scoring off the charts with Delta 8 like substances.

I truly believe it could change how we deal with long term pain relief. Don't ban these compounds outright. Study and research these things. Make them safer for the user.
 
crazyhairman said:
Synthetic cannabis. All those " intoxicating hemp concentrates" getting bad press from kiddos taking 3000 milligrams and going to the hospital. Politicians using them to look like they are poisonous hazardous chemicals turning your kids into drug addicts.

Police departments raiding legal shops. Now even our own legal marijuana brothers are turning against us because we are hurting their bottom line. We are on the same side THC either derived from hemp or marijuana has the same side effects.

It's so wild to see everyone loose their shit over a loophole in the 2018 hemp farm bill. Delta 8, 10 hhc, thc9 hemp concentrates all are being systematically villinized simply because of it popularity.

Instead of working with the legal hemp companies to come up with reasonable testing or regulations, everyone wants to arbitrarily ban these compounds outright.

We are at odds with everyone simotaniously. Yet popularity is exploding because of its practical applications. Pain management, anxiety, stress, recreational use, are all scoring off the charts with Delta 8 like substances.

I truly believe it could change how we deal with long term pain relief. Don't ban these compounds outright. Study and research these things. Make them safer for the user.
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It because Synthetic cannabinoids & Nutmeg(Fresh nuts) are cannabinoid deliriants that have a shroom like layer. The anti-Deliriant tone that psychdelic users have sound almost wore than the dare BS that LSD users suffered through. Deliriants STILL can be just as deep & fun as any psychdelic, It fucking annoying that Atypical deliriants aren't seen as safer choices.

Had 3 clowns on the Nutmeg high thread act like pricks that It a eCBRI giving It effects more common in Synthetic cannabinoids.
 
Heroin. I'm sure a couple small changes in history and the US would be using heroin instead of oxycodone as the primary strong narcotic pain medicine.
 
People judge me more for drinking hand sanitizer than using needles, like somehow something that is legal and you can buy anywhere is somehow more judged, both by sober people and other drug users than actually injecting research chemicals. buying some random chinese opiod that could cause an overdose? that's fiiiiiiine but how dare you drank hand sanitizer to get drunk >:(
 
bigjackaal96 said:
I'm a fan of Alcohol, DXM & DPH, Nitrous. But somehow I feel put off because there always someone telling me I'm only valid If I do actual Psychdelics In a very confrontal manner, Weirdly they get mad when told DXM is actually a true Psychdelic at 400 ~ 600mg If their no DXO being made. Also D2 agonists are Psychdelics which happen to be the 2nd effect Dissos & Deliriants affect greatly.
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Heroin, ketamine and crystal. I love heroin like real heroin not fentanyl. We had some great stuff up in new England back in 2002-2009 and then it started getting mixed with fentanyl. Now it's just straight fentanyl. I really wish I could find some real brown or white dope
 
Ajh021787 said:
Heroin, ketamine and crystal. I love heroin like real heroin not fentanyl. We had some great stuff up in new England back in 2002-2009 and then it started getting mixed with fentanyl. Now it's just straight fentanyl. I really wish I could find some real brown or white dope
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I actually got a fright when DXO Is a moderate MOR agonist as I not clue what to feel. I literally couldn't process pain at all since folk forget NMDA antagonism can do the same.
 
bigjackaal96 said:
I actually got a fright when DXO Is a moderate MOR agonist as I not clue what to feel. I literally couldn't process pain at all since folk forget NMDA antagonism can do the same.
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How do you find these types of things? All I can find is crystal, fetty and benzos
 
Tiklu said:
People judge me more for drinking hand sanitizer than using needles, like somehow something that is legal and you can buy anywhere is somehow more judged, both by sober people and other drug users than actually injecting research chemicals. buying some random chinese opiod that could cause an overdose? that's fiiiiiiine but how dare you drank hand sanitizer to get drunk >:(
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Why would you drink hand sanitizer? Are you under 18/21?
Does it contain Ethanol or Isopropanol?
 
Esperighanto said:
@foodcrisis Have you ever eaten cocaine? It hits in a way similar to coca tea, lasts 4-6 hours, feels great, idk I'm shocked more people don't eat their blow. For some reason insufflating it knocks me out for ~2 hours with no other effects, but oral cocaine is beautiful.
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how much do you eat? like the equivalent of a line or a little more or less?
 
Esperighanto said:
Cocaine definitely has a numbing effect, I've seen it straight from the flask in small scale extractions (aka as pure as I've ever come across) and it was insanely numbing to my tongue, had me speaking with a goofy lisp for a hot minute.
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it absolutely has a numbing effect

novacaine

cmon
 
JackARoe said:
Enables some healing.
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Also should add about Salvia that the trip I had was in fact healing. I was sitting and layed down & went into a trance. I was a leaf on a branch of the tree of life and … I don’t know how to explain it but everything made sense in that trance and where I was. The rest of the day I felt much better then I had in a while. Even my boyfriend at the time was like “Wow you seem much lighter in mood since you did that”. We were joking around saying I tapped into my Native American roots. Whatever it was, it was definitely beautiful and something I always remember.
 
AngelsandFairiesarereal said:
Also should add about Salvia that the trip I had was in fact healing. I was sitting and layed down & went into a trance. I was a leaf on a branch of the tree of life and … I don’t know how to explain it but everything made sense in that trance and where I was. The rest of the day I felt much better then I had in a while. Even my boyfriend at the time was like “Wow you seem much lighter in mood since you did that”. We were joking around saying I tapped into my Native American roots. Whatever it was, it was definitely beautiful and something I always remember.
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Salvia also makes me happy and I have mesoamerican ancestry as well. I adore that plant. I worship it. Salvia is beautiful.
 
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