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What drug subcultures do you least like?

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I'm gonna have to go with the alcohol subculture. You know, the one that:

thinks it's funny/cute/amusing to be excessively loud, obnoxious or slutty after downing a few too many;

justifies everyday use by referring to it as "social drinking" (just because it happens in a bar or club does NOT make it so)

fails to see the danger in drinking so much you puke/pass out/forget entire chunks of time;

blames "it" (everything) on the alcohol, just like in that godawful song;

criticizes users of illegal drugs without acknowledging their own addictions, and

sees nothing hypocritical in a culture that punishes users of certain substances while celebrating the use of others.

...if I had to choose, my second least favorite would be speed freaks I guess.
 
I don't wanna start hating on alcohol, do XYZ drug instead, it's good fun and all but I don't like how that most people I encounter treat it as if it's not a drug at all and will look down on those 'druggies' that may use weed,LSD, E or whatever.

Especially with older, more 'mature' people I think they need to realize that they are using a drug for enjoyment and not putting themselves above others by calling it 'having a little too much wine' or something similar. I overhear all the time when discussing about the latest 'anti-social' behavior scare campaign that " it's the kids and all these drugs that they take these days" that's to blame yet these same people I've been out with at pubs and watch them get plastered then drive home.

Alcohol can be a very powerful drug and I treat it as such like all drugs, take my friend for example, I've tripped balls with him countless number of times on LSD , DMT etc and sometimes he and I are pretty out of it and confused but he remains relatively calm and tries to continue thinking rationally, yet when it comes to alcohol it's like it switches something on in his head and changes him to 'Hey let's try and be really annoying and nasty to everyone' mode.
 
I've met some fucked up Ket heads in my day. Particularly this one scummy little DEA undercover motherfucker who ruined more lives on his government job than any drug dealer I've ever met.
 
CoffeeDrinker said:
I've met some fucked up Ket heads in my day. Particularly this one scummy little DEA undercover motherfucker who ruined more lives on his government job than any drug dealer I've ever met.
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That's awesome. How did you find out he was an undercover cop?

I have never found K to be a sketchy drug that invites me to wallow in sketchiness. and it boggles my mind that this is the general reputation it tends to have among a lot of people who know of it. I've always found it a sublime treat, but then again discovered it alone, and still consider it a profoundly solitary experience. I guess this just goes to show that a person's use patterns of a drug and their attitudes toward it depend as much on the social associations they have with it, as the effects of the drug itself. (Compare seeing alcohol as a drug vs. a food vs. a ceremonial sacrament vs. a medicine vs. utter poison)
 
Well one of my friends had a K connection that was indirectly related to gang activity. My friend was a total goofball psychonaut raving hippie character, no gang-banger by any means.
This DEA guy was like 45 and was on a local radio show "Brother Wheeze" and he was involved in all kinds of scummy things in the background. Coke-houses, big rings of oxycontin, lots of E and K.
He befriended my group of friends this past summer and was REALLY fucked up on K all the time. He'd drive around fucked up, basically do everything fucked up.
Anyway one day he bought K from my goofball friend and busted him. A few other of my friends got brought down in the collateral damage.
My friend's only way to avoid jail is to bust his supplier which is something he's unwilling to do, so yeah he's fucked. This all happened like 2 months ago and I still hang out with my friends until they have their day in court.
The DEA knows about the gang that supplied my friend's supplier, but they can't go after them so they'll just pick off the low hanging fruit: dumb hippie kids just looking for a good time. This is a small part of the reason why I refuse to do K.

It just amazes me how this guy actively is searching for people's lives to mess with and is allowed to do all the drugs he wants on a government salary, while the rest of us are all told to play it straight and narrow etc.

EDIT: Reading this over, it's clear to me that Ket heads aren't the problem. The DEA is the scummiest drug subculture out there HANDS DOWN.
 
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Sweet P said:
Well, I'm a meth-head, so I'm probably part of the most hated drug subculture. :)

But personally, I can't stand the ecstasy raver subculture. A bunch of kids popping pills, waving glowsticks around, and dancing like idiots to techno music. Each to their own, but it's definitely not my scene.
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Hilarious. That is the best scene ever invented, imo.

Hanging around the house cleaning, chatting, and fucking like the average meth user sounds fun though too. I wish I knew anyone at all in that culture.
 
I despise ethanol, all public establishments which serve it, and the users who prefer it to real drugs.
 
Coolio said:
I despise ethanol, all public establishments which serve it, and the users who prefer it to real drugs.
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Man all the hate on alcohol is all over the place here, I don't get it, but then again the College party culture could be really annoying I bet.

Alcohol is a very pleasant downer in moderate doses - the trick is not to overshoot it.
 
Larson0 said:
your an unproductive member of society who thinks just because it grows by itself means its safe
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And just what do you produce for the good of mankind, Larson0?

Most 'productive' members of society are being productive in keeping the brutal prison-military-industrial complex growing. Smoking weed all day and choosing not to participate in that is a noble and admirable thing.
 
Coolio said:
And just what do you produce for the good of mankind, Larson0?

Most 'productive' members of society are being productive in keeping the brutal prison-military-industrial complex growing. Smoking weed all day and choosing not to participate in that is a noble and admirable thing.
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THat's not true and I agree with him. Smoking weed doesn't make you productive, at best you can still function stoned. I wish I didn't smoke and that weed was never invented, I'd probably be healthier and more active. NOt trying to blame my probs on weed but really, I don't think it's a "good thing" necessarily.
 
Well with weed it's just a matter of how you use your highs.
If all you care about is catching a buzz several times a day. Then you're gonna do just enough to put a roof over your head and do that, living off your parents or the government as long as possible in the mean time.
But if you are very ambitious with other areas of life then you can maybe get high only a few times a week, but use those highs much more productively and creatively. I've met a lot of extremely athletic, talented, intelligent people who smoke weed only a few times a week, versus your typical bums who just sit around an play playsation all day getting as high as possible all the time.
 
Coolio said:
Hilarious. That is the best scene ever invented, imo.

Hanging around the house cleaning, chatting, and fucking like the average meth user sounds fun though too. I wish I knew anyone at all in that culture.
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Oh yes, meth-heads can be quite insightful at times... while cleaning the house or searching the carpet for that elusive missing shard. ;)
 
It's a baby! said:
Smoking weed doesn't make you productive, at best you can still function stoned.
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What do you mean by productive though, and how is that good? Most peoples' ideas of productivity is creating karma on earth for everyone else to deal with. It's a negative thing, not something to aspire to.
 
I am part of the psychedelic culture definitely.

The most hated for me is probably the stoner subculture :\
Even though I smoke sometimes, I generally dislike the AVERAGE stoner around the Philadelphia area. They are pretty annoying, and stupid. Although, there are some cool ones.
 
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