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What drug subcultures do you least like?

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Where are you people finding all these stoners who aren't open to the use of any other drugs? I mean yeah, I've met a lot of stoners who don't use any drugs besides marijuana. But the ones who preach about all other drugs being bad are the stuff of legend, in my experience. I'm a stoner myself, and I've lived in a couple very pot-friendly places, and known a lot of other stoners. Most at least accept others' forays into other forms of chemical fun, so long as these people don't pressure them to try other things.

And for all you folks who begrudge others the spiritual value they find in drugs (provided they share this joy with others in a socially graceful fashion), I feel very sorry for you. I really wish that I, and all the people in my life, never become that jaded. :|

I think I just fail to understand any sort of anger or hatred toward groups of people, of any kind, who are harmless. Most of the drug subcultures I can't stand are all very much the opposite: ones where you have to constantly be on guard for something cata-fucking-strophic to go down:

* Tweakers. Very impulsive. Devil may care. Reckless disregard for the safety of self and others. You can be the calmest, smoothest guy around, but if you're unlucky enough to have a face that reminds some tweaker you just met, who's in the throes of amphetamine psychosis, of someone he doesn't like, it's not your lucky day.

* The bar and frathouse-style drinking scene. Literally attracts people who find aggression recreational. Celebrates dumbness at every turn. Bad music, LOUD. Few people with common interests, for me. Way too macho a scene for my tastes.

* The club scene. Fun every once in a while, if I seize upon a great deal (for example, a world famous performer, free doors before a certain time, my best clothes are good enough, parking is free, and I'll be bringing all my own head candies), and I go with some friends. But most of the time, it's too expensive a scene for someone as frugal as myself, has a little too much surface and too little substance, and isn't really made for happily married guys. :) Cokeheads don't actually piss me off, I just have trouble taking them very seriously. :)
 
the_ketaman said:
I HATE Potheads!!!...I smoke weed daily so its not the weed itself that I hate but many of the things stoners believe in piss me off. Most of the myths in the drug taking world originated from the stoner culture. I have to hide a lot from my stoner friends, things like me being on methadone, me using drugs IV and downers(opiates/benzo's) I cant take acid with any of them because they believe they will ge stuck in the trip( I cant change anyone's mind about this one either, its unbelievably frusterating)

I dont know where stoners learn things from but seriously, some of the shit they come out with makes me want to plant one on their nose and fuckin break it!!! lol
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They dont want to do hard drugs with you and you are calling them stupid? 8)

More like they are smart.... They just like to smoke weed and drink not do all sorts of drugs. Same as me. Whats the big deal with that? I prefer not to be around other drugs or people on drugs other then weed or booze.
 
The problem is the elevation of weed above other drugs, the treatment of cannabis as being in a class of its own that is simply not true. People who just smoke dope have a tendency to be self righteous and judgmental. What makes drinking alcohol and smoking weed smart but doing other drugs stupid? As for the hard drugs thing, I'd say alcohol ticks all the boxes for being a hard drug in my book.
 
MyDoorsAreOpen said:
* The bar and frathouse-style drinking scene. Literally attracts people who find aggression recreational. Celebrates dumbness at every turn. Bad music, LOUD. Few people with common interests, for me. Way too macho a scene for my tastes.
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I lol'd and looked like a idiot. should be a truth commercial
 
MyDoorsAreOpen said:
* Tweakers. Very impulsive. Devil may care. Reckless disregard for the safety of self and others. You can be the calmest, smoothest guy around, but if you're unlucky enough to have a face that reminds some tweaker you just met, who's in the throes of amphetamine psychosis, of someone he doesn't like, it's not your lucky day.
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or, it might be...depending your plight and which tweeker is coming.
 
It seems like all the people who hate potheads are weed smokers themselves.
They are just coming up with the generally accepted stereotype and saying that they aren't like that but they hate people who are. You guys are the Uncle Toms of stoners.
Any stereotype attached to any drug culture tends to be shitty.
The opiate scene is boring because everyone's nodding out, the crackhead scene is crazy because everyone is nuts, etc. etc.

BTW pothead and stoner IS interchangeable.
 
I can't stand ANYONE who thinks drug using is a popularity contest. You know the kind, "C'mon hit that shit harder, don't be a pussy!", and I'm thinkin "Shut the fuck up, everyone has their own dose requirements with drugs, and overdoing it is dangerous and tends to create bad media exposure when people do stupid shit while over-intoxicated and contributes to criminalization. And also, doing more drugs WILL NOT GROW YOU A BIGGER DICK!

As for a subculture: Heroin addicts tend to be very shady (I got narced on by selling weed to one), but I also don't care for GRUNGE-type hippies (not classic hippies) who shove any random chemical into their body without thinking, and also I could do with out alcoholics and smokers that preach "I don't do drugs." Oh yea, WHAT'S IN YOUR FUCKING HAND?!! Yea that's right. :-)
 
Yeah alcoholics I think are the worst because they have the smugness of not being illegal so they can kill their brain cells and be the middle manager in some crappy corporation for the rest of their lives with impunity.
 
^That's exactly the kind of holier-than-thou attitude that makes people dislike potheads.
 
Yerg said:
The problem is the elevation of weed above other drugs, the treatment of cannabis as being in a class of its own that is simply not true. People who just smoke dope have a tendency to be self righteous and judgmental. What makes drinking alcohol and smoking weed smart but doing other drugs stupid? As for the hard drugs thing, I'd say alcohol ticks all the boxes for being a hard drug in my book.
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Because weed and alcohol are both benign drugs. And are socially acceptable. Just about every other drug is not. That is why people consider it stupid to do other drugs.

Plus you can go to jail for other drugs. Where I live drinking is obviously legal, and if you get caught with a bag of weed, the consequences are not severe.
 
Since when did alcohol become benign? I thought it was physically addictive, injurious to the health, likely to cause aggression and poor judgment and dangerous in overdose.
 
Yerg said:
^That's exactly the kind of holier-than-thou attitude that makes people dislike potheads.
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I think anyone can have a "holier-than-thou" attitude though.

Sober people? OMG they think they are so cool cause they are sober...fuck them...

Which is why this thread is pointless.

It's all about being comfortable in your own skin and what rout you take to achieve that comfort. If you rip people off or use people it's not cool, if you just buy your drugs and chill then it's all good.
 
Yerg said:
Since when did alcohol become benign? I thought it was physically addictive, injurious to the health, likely to cause aggression and poor judgment and dangerous in overdose.
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yea, I'll second that. IMO alcohol is one of the hardest of "hard drugs." It does so much physical damage to your brain/body, and the next day you can FEEL the damage of alcohol more-so than a lot of other "hard drugs."

I'd personally take the next-day-feeling from amphetamine, nitrous, cocaine, opiates, ketamine, etc. over a fucking sickening alcohol hangover. And not to mention that alcohol is prob the most ANTI-SOCIAL: I don't mean this as in 'lack of sociability', I mean like social MALICE (fights, smugness, ego, arguments, etc.).
 
^ alcohol is no where cllose to benign

alcohol i would consider a hard drug too like you mention:

*addiction factor- with compulsion to re-dose,
*withdrawl- Delirium tremens (read it up its scary probably worse that opiate w/d)
*overdose is a potential

not only that

* easy to obtain
*death can be caused by indirect means, drunk driving, fighting/aggressive behavior, etc.
 
^Alcohol withdrawal is def. worse than opiate withdrawal. Coming off opiates, you might feel like you want to die, but you won't. Alcohol withdrawal can be lethal.
 
Oh alcohol is definitely a hard drug.
That's why I don't get it when people are like "I'm an addict and an alcoholic" they are the same thing...that's like saying "I'm an addict in addition to the completely unrelated fact that I'm also junkie"
 
I hate anyone that tries to maintain the stupid natural/chemical distinction. I've even heard some people claim that extracted DMT is good but synthetic DMT is bad.
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+1 to this, and ill add anyone who makes this argument and then tells you that LSD is the greatest thing ever 8) silly hippies, tricks are for kids

I really hate candy kids too. I enjoy a good rave, but nothing bugs me more than seeing a whole bunch of 14yo in their bras and panties covered in plastic beads sucking on those goddamn pacifiers and so fucked up they cant even dance, all they can do is stumble about with this blissed out look on their face. shit pisses me off just thinking about it
 
i don't like the speed culture...a group of people that are awake 5-10days straight and paranoid and craving and so spuned are never people i really appreciate

i love the psychedelic culture, but i'm alot more into the THC culture
 
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