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What drug is most likely to cause psychosis or catalyze hiddent mental issues

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What drug with psychedelic attributes do YOU think is likely to cause a person to come away with mental issues? I'm talking PTSD, bringing mental ailments such as schizophrenia to light, or even HPPD. What do YOU think based on things you've heard or research or even experience.

In my opinion LSD causes more things to happen that the mind has a hard time comprehending. Even though I've had very intense salvia and mushroom experiences my light LSD doses have messed with my head the most.

I would also like to add that I'm not taking into consideration repeated use. You can if you would like but I am referring to the nature of the trip and how it affects the mind and not the drugs actual effect on the brain
 
The trouble with this theory is that schizophrenia rates have remained constant throughout the last 100 years. So all the use of cannabis and LSD etc over the last 60 years has had absolutely no effect. You'd think if LSD revealed hidden issues there would have been a pretty big spike in schizophrenia rates.
 
i think if you are prone to violent paranoid outbursts you should stay clear from LSD, on saying that my mum and uncle were schizophrenics and I havent had any problems yet from doing canabis, salvia, acid and pretty much every other drug known to man.
 
Ismene said:
The trouble with this theory is that schizophrenia rates have remained constant throughout the last 100 years. So all the use of cannabis and LSD etc over the last 60 years has had absolutely no effect. You'd think if LSD revealed hidden issues there would have been a pretty big spike in schizophrenia rates.
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This still doesn't mean that drugs can't set off an episode of psychosis which could last a long time.. i just read that after 10 years %25 of scizophrenics recover.. and that in Group 1 of the schizophrenic chart they will only have 1 episode and be completely fine after..

And to be honest OP, your question is pretty hard to explain. I mean.. a high dose of diphenhydramine will make you delerious, hallucinate, talk to people that aren't there, run away from giant spiders etc but that will go when the drug wears off.. That's normally the case with all drugs that cause psychosis like episodes but sometimes they do last alot longer than the drug; it's this i think you are talking about yes? Psychedelics (tryptamines) are probably the most common one i've heard of but that's probably because psychedelic phenethylamines havn't been around as long and are (or maybe used to be) alot more rare. I think anything that puts your mind through a psychedelic state has the potential to bring out an episode in high risk people (note: when i say high risk it could be genetic or environmental factors).. but abusing drugs like (meph)amphetamine and the like can cause stimulant psychosis which could also be classed as an episode.

I myself have had stimulant psychosis quite a few times and it's taken(/ing?) so long to go away. It's NASTY. But again that normally only comes with abuse..
 
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About two years ago me and my ex had an LSD period when we took it every weekend for five weeks in a row. Then things started to go bad and she eventually went to a psychiatric hospital. We found out later that her aunt had schizophrenia.
 
^ See with cases like this there is no proof that she would have developed schizophrenia anyway.. much less to actually causing her to need a psychiatric hospital.

Sorry to hear that sljiva :(
 
SayWhatHEH said:
What drug with psychedelic attributes do YOU think is likely to cause a person to come away with mental issues? I'm talking PTSD, bringing mental ailments such as schizophrenia to light, or even HPPD. What do YOU think based on things you've heard or research or even experience.
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In my experience of over a decade, having been in and out of mental health treatment, both inpatient hospitals and outpatient centers, as well as studying these sorts of things in college, marijuana is the most likely to exacerbate and trigger underlying symptoms of severe mental health issues. My conclusion is also based on the education that I have received in these facilities since approximately 1998. I also base this on my own personal experience with using marijuana in the past. Marijuana appears to only be able to trigger and worsen conditions that already exist in a person, but may not have fully developed.

The worst thing that I have seen pot do to people who are not already on track to developing a mental illness is to distract them from more important things in their lives, like studying, saving up money and not spending it all on pot, or work. I have seen pot completely wreck people who already have mental health issues, though. It sucks, too, because most people who have a mental health issue believe that pot helps them, and in their minds it probably does, but to the outside world it just fucks them up terribly over time.

Amphetamines can certainly cause a person to walk away with a condition nearly indistinguishable from schizophrenia, even if a person was mentally healthy beforehand. As I understand it, this condition can go into remission once a person discontinues using amphetamines.

Surprisingly, I have not seen LSD to do much harm to people who already have a mental illness. LSD can cause a person to go wacky for a while, from what I have observed, especially if the person takes far too much at once, but this only appears to be temporary. I have witnessed some bipolar clients get manicy on LSD, but once the trip wears off they have always gone back to being more or less being fine. I have not personally known or witnessed anyone with schizophrenia or schizoaffective disorder use LSD, so I cannot say how LSD or other psychedelics would impact the health of such a person.
 
Despite psychedelics and dissociatives bringing up some absolutely crazy thought processes and patterns, the only drug that really altered my behavior/personality in a absolutely negative, dangerous, and crazy way was meth.
 
^ Abuse or use?

A single dose of methamphetamine is alot less unlikely to cause a psychotic episode that a psychedelic or dissociative (like PCP) i believe..
 
Heavy anything use during development, I'd imagine.

I'd tend to agree with those suggesting chronic stim abuse is probably a much bigger risk of mental health complications than even fairly heavy psyche abuse. I've abused both (and everything else) heavily and stims definitely fry me way more than psyches do when used excessively for extended periods. 2C-I is often singled out as being more likely to bring on HPPD (if you include that as a mental health issue) than other psyches for some reason.

Heavy abuse of downers - specifically opiates and especially alcohol - can be pretty detrimental mentally too, in my experience. That's more along the lines of depression than psychosis though.

Time (and not even very much time required) seems to sort out any issues with any of them for me but I have underlying mental health issues to start off with so is all relative, I suppose.
 
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Source that schizophrenia rates have remained constant for the last 100 years? It's pretty much common knowledge. In fact I think if anything the rates have been decreasing rather than increasing. I think the last study into cannabis by the ACMD used this to refute the claims that cannabis caused schizophrenia.

This still doesn't mean that drugs can't set off an episode of psychosis which could last a long time

But you'd think that with the explosion in drug use over the last 50 years there would have been a corresponding explosion in psychosis and schizophrenia rates.
 
^^I agree 1 million percent Shambles.....drugs like MDPV/Amp's/methamp/coke can cause mental craziness faster than anything else. The messed up part about the drug world is that opiates and me have been best friends since the middle school days and they have done nothing to my mind except ease the pain of life...but they are the ones I have to hide from or I end up going broke.
 
Anything really. Depending on the severity of the mental issue in question, even really good weed is enough to cause a sticky situation. Alcohol as well. Stimulant abuse in general will give you "lunatic-type" behavior even normal people.

Hell, just about anything will make you go crazy if you abuse it bad enough. The only substances I've heard that DON'T cause symptoms like that are opiates.
 
Unless you count severe opiate withdrawal cos that can definitely cause some acute psychosis. I would tend to agree with you that virtually anything could trigger an underlying condition. Some things probably are considerably more likely to than others though and stims seems to be the popular choice so far.
 
For me Cocaine in the short term, I found daily cannabis use to be bad for my mental health in the long term.
 
bringing on ptsd: salvia

long term and constant abuse resulting in psychosis: amphetamines and stimulants in general

bringing on a short term state that some unaware people might describe as psychosis, but really isnt comparable: psychedelics and some dissociatives

bringing on a short term state that some unaware people might describe as psychosis, and is more comparable: delerients and some dissociatives

catalyze hidden mental issues or problems: any intoxicant at all
 
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