what does make someone a man ?

[asecin]

can someone find some links giving different theories on this ?

 

[Flowingbeyond]

is your english bad or are you just a bit slow... cause i have no idea what u mean. and if i do, its a penis and a beard. not to mention a desire to drink beer and eat nachos. thankyou have a nice day
:D

 

[Khadijah]

Uh....dont be a douche...hes asking whats the difference between a boy and a man. not a physical difference, but when does someone become a MAN.

there are 27 year olds acting liek 12 year olds who do nothing but watch football and eat nachos, and there are 21 year olds who been thru so much pain and struggles in their lifes that they are wise beyond their years.

so i think hes asking, what makes you a man as in mentally, when do you cross the line from young adult to a real man, fully grown in body and MIND.

 

[Akoto]

most cultures have a "comming of age" ceremony of some sort.
there is obviously no real definitive answer to your question because there are plenty of so called "men" who have kids and a house and all that jazz, but are still boys inside.

 

[Jamshyd]

What makes a man, you ask?

How about... taking a hard, thick one up the ass? Or at least, be open to trying it at least once?

To be continued (maybe)...

 

[asecin]

wow
i expected jokers, but this one is below the level of expectations !

 

[Khadijah]

What makes a man, you ask?

How about... taking a hard, thick one up the ass? Or at least, be open to trying it at least once?

To be continued (maybe)...

yea 8(

thats totally what makes someone a man, homosexuality.

not saying you aint a man if youre homosexual, but gimme a freakin break.

i dont know if youre being serious or not, but for real, the gay people who act like people who are uninterested in people of the same gender are just closed minded and biased, are just as ignorant as the people who think homosexuality is a sin or a mental disorder. diffrent stroke for diffrent folks. but to say someone aint a man if they wouldnt be open to buttsex is some horse shit.

my bad for rantin on it if you were just being a dick and joking but come on.

 

[alasdairm]

is your english bad or are you just a bit slow... cause i have no idea what u mean.

perhaps english is not his first language. the internet goes beyond physical borders you know.

there's no one definition that fits all cases - what makes one person a man, doesn't apply to somebody else.

for me it would include (but not be limited to) qualities such as: trust and belief in oneself; honesty; integrity; industry

alasdair

 

[asecin]

wtf
i think what i said made sense and it was correct english.
what was exactly wrong there ??

 

[habitué]

is your english bad or are you just a bit slow... cause i have no idea what u mean. and if i do, its a penis and a beard. not to mention a desire to drink beer and eat nachos. thankyou have a nice day
:D

what the fuck's your deal?

anyway.. dexterity, intelligence, a fair amount of reserve, self-containment and general honesty.

 

[redtailedhawk]

He, who wants to become a Man goes forward towards life, expecting pain, suffering and harshness, but he embraces it all because he knows that these are the things that will mold him into becoming a true Man, just like a steel is made into a sword.

 

[Jamshyd]

yea 8(

thats totally what makes someone a man, homosexuality.

not saying you aint a man if youre homosexual, but gimme a freakin break.

i dont know if youre being serious or not, but for real, the gay people who act like people who are uninterested in people of the same gender are just closed minded and biased, are just as ignorant as the people who think homosexuality is a sin or a mental disorder. diffrent stroke for diffrent folks. but to say someone aint a man if they wouldnt be open to buttsex is some horse shit.

my bad for rantin on it if you were just being a dick and joking but come on.

Thus my "to be continued".

I am joking in the sense that I do not think that anal sex (let alone homosexuality) is the definitive aspect of being a man, but that is simply because I do not think "man" and "woman" are real things. (note that gender and sexual organs are not the same thing).

I am not joking in the sense that, amongst men (straight and gay) who try hard to define themselves as men (and note this, since I am not talking about ALL men), and the women who attempt to define "men" as such, I found only one: huge issues with dicks. They are horrified of dicks and anything that has to do with them. Some even scared of their own!. Of course, the mere thought of anal sex is taboo for these people, since it is the one thing that turns a man into a "not a man" in the eyes of the male ego. Of course, now that I say it plainly, all abovementioned men will think it doesn't apply to them. If my previous joke outraged you, then you certainly have security issues with masculinity, be it yours or someone else's.

So all in all, I was being sarcastic yes, but I was sarcastic only to elicit responses like yours.

And by the way, this has nothing to do with hpmosexuality - since that IMO is not real either (and neither is heterosexuality), it is simply a consequence of the imaginary "man" and "woman".

I believe everyone has both in them, and so they are neither one of the two.

Although I have masculine biology, I do not claim to be either man or woman, and neither do I attempt to act like either.

 

[Khadijah]

OK, well those are some great theories but i dont see what the hell it has to do with actually being a man.you got a right to your own opinion, i just happen to totally disagree with the idea that "male" and "female" are subjective ideas that are all in our minds. shits goin way off topic.

 

[Jamshyd]

Is it really going off topic? The poster asked what makes a man a man.

My answer is that there is no such thing as a man.

If the question was, what makes people fool themselves into believing in men; my answer would be the penis phobia, and all other social constructions (such as the sexualisation of women) that tend to disttract from that fear.

 

[elemenohpee]

jamshyd, could you explain a little more what you mean? Obviously the concepts "man" and "woman" are very complex and not entirely divided, but you can;t deny that half the population have one x and one y chromosome, male genetalia, and all the hormone profiles etc that go along with what is generally refered to as "male."

 

[elemenohpee]

I don't think the sexualization of woman is entirely a social construct. You're forgeting that that there is a biological (and very real) basis for these things.

 

[Jamshyd]

You seem to have missed...

I am joking in the sense that I do not think that anal sex (let alone homosexuality) is the definitive aspect of being a man, but that is simply because I do not think "man" and "woman" are real things. (note that gender and sexual organs are not the same thing).

Having male or female genitals has very little to do with your psychological makeup. Lower, instinctual emotions, yes perhaps - due to hormones. But in terms of personality and/or the real self? no way.

I do not see the biological (aka "real") basis for the objectification of women as sex toys. Please explain...

 

[Jamshyd]

By the way... keep in mind that although I think man and woman are ultimately an illusion, I do not claim that this illusion does not exist. It does exist, and it is very real - and the fact that it is taken for granted makes it more and more of an illusion, just like a man who takes his dick for granted because it is the most important yet vulnerable part of his body, and just like we take life for granted because we know that it is powerless against death.

It is my opinion is that man created woman in order to have some thing other than himself to blame for his state of being. I have yet to find a culture in which the creation myth does not involve a man creating a woman out of himself and blaming her for something. Also, by constructing "woman," man has now made the simplest unit of the "other" - a way to define how he is unique (selfishly, of course - under the guise of "love"). If you want a less negative version of this, perhaps we can say that man created woman in order to be able to justify his selfishness (ie. wallow in ego-love). Selfless love can only happen when "man" and "woman" cease to exist and become one.

The fact that "man" and "woman" exist is no different (and for no different reason) other than the fact that "jew" and "muslim" or "god" and "devil" exist.

 

[elemenohpee]

Having male or female genitals has very little to do with your psychological makeup. Lower, instinctual emotions, yes perhaps - due to hormones. But in terms of personality and/or the real self? no way.

Do you have anything to back this up? Our base sexual instincts as man and woman are very different. Men want to impregnate as many woman as possible, to spread his genes, while women want the man with the best genes. You don;t hear about men walking to their cars with keys in hand because theyre terrified of being raped. I would think all that would have a pretty significant effect on overal psychological makeup, as it ultimately underlies all our actions.

 

[Jamshyd]

Again, you are talking about biological functions, which I do not dispute. I am talking about social constructs about what constitutes a "man."

Do you seriously need back up? Have you never met a female human who acts like a man or a male human who acts like a woman? or a transsexual for that matter?

Actually, if those aren't enough for you - some societies think it is very admirable for a boy to dress up like a girl and dance. Obviously this is not so in North American societies. Differences like these show that these are just constructs, not universals.