What do you see???

[GooGooG'joob]

Hey swim was just talkin to his cat about tripping and realised something. Whenever swim trips on LSD or LSH swim sees things spinning, breathing, moving, and melting. also swim sees brighter colors and changing colors. But swim never sees things that arent really there and has never saw things appear or dissapear or melt out of existance. swim has never seen cartoon faces or little aliens. Swim has never been that far out of reality on LSD or LSH even though swim has ate up to 8 hits.

Swims cat thinks he needs to eat more.

So here is swims question, what do swimmers see on a dose between 2-6 hits of acid because swims cat feels all swims experiences were "mild"

thanks

 

[Pyramedic]

I've never seen any "real" hallucinations in LSD. I'm not 100% sure if all people I've seen and heard talking were real (I assume they were though) when watching from my balcony, since if they were, they have from time to time said some REALLY strange stuff that fit the trips quite perfectly. Remember me having a massive existential crisis and getting really depressed on one of my trips, I was smoking a cig on the balcony. Then, a couple walks by, the man's turned towards the woman who doesn't see me, and he says to her, "It doesn't have to be feared".. While same time my own heart was racing and wondering what's going on. That calmed me down immediatelly. Though I do now afterwards wonder that he really should have been too far for me to hear him - this is the 3rd floor and it was the opposed street - so it might as well been a real audiotary hallucination.

Mushrooms have showed me demons and wizards on the walls though, those were insanely pretty..

 

[solistus]

Swimming with your cat while tripping? Sounds dangerous

The SWIM talk does no good and makes you sound a little silly. If you wouldn't admit to doing it yourself, don't talk about someone else doing it either. Doesn't really matter for talking about past drug use in general but if you talk about present or future illegal activities "someone who isn't you" is doing or planning on doing, you can get yourself in legal trouble whether it's SWIM, your cousin, your friend or good old "I". If it's anything significant and/or obvious enough to attract law enforcement's attention to begin with, of course.

 

[MarkRenton]

I haven't "seen" any full blown hallucinations (only have done mushrooms and lsd). Things are certainly very different but LSD at least doesn't really make you hallucinate random things (it's not datura) but things are very jumbled and different.

 

[Xtc <3]

Isn't it technically impossible to hallucinate by definition?

I mean all we have to go by is our perception, if something is perceived then it exists right...

 

[Roger&Me]

I'm not very interested in visual phenomena while tripping, but some fun visuals I've noticed on high-dose LSD are:

the sky turning purple and melting down towards the horizon like wax rolling down the side of a sphere,

individual bricks on the sidewalk rapidly alternating colors to form a dynamic neon mosaic,

seeing an infinite number of Fibonacci spirals manifest in the geometry of the surrounding foliage and plant-life,

seeing the moon morph into a hypersphere that can't possibly be represented in 3-dimensions,

There's more that I can't remember. But all of the really cool visuals have only occurred at large doses (~500+ mics). Even on ~250-300 mics I don't notice much in the way of visual phenomena, but I do experience a massive perceptual shift.

 

[Roger&Me]

Isn't it technically impossible to hallucinate by definition?

I mean all we have to go by is our perception, if something is perceived then it exists right...

Well the word "hallucination" is a really loaded term, entrenched within the context of psychiatry. According to psychiatrists, any perceptual experience that cannot be objectively confirmed is considered to be fictitious and a result of pathology. Unfortunately since most people incorrectly assume psychiatrists to be scientific experts, this view has been largely adopted by the general public.

If you ask me, a hallucination is every bit as real as consensus reality-- its merely an unusual neural manifestation of that reality. But good luck trying to explain that concept to anyone; most people are hopeless adherents to a bleak, reductionist view of reality that discounts subjective experience in favor of "objectivity" (aka consensus subjectivity) and hyper-rationalism taken out of its proper context.

IMO, the term "hallucination" should be abandoned completely. Its not a useful tool for examining unusual perceptual experience because of the word's deeply-rooted connotation of pathology.

 

[toolfan420]

Swimming with your cat while tripping? Sounds dangerous

lmfao


the spiral man!

 

[welshmick]

I definitely seen space men one night.

I'd only had a teaspoon of ground up mushies

Still there the next day, but the space men turned into beach towels flapping in the breeze, on the washing line %)

 

[Feste]

I saw a sheep once, turned out to be a coat.

 

[KPZ]

Ive only got OEV's during one trip, it was on an 8th of mushrooms

That said, I get very vivid CEV's

 

[SirTophamHat]

Things that were not there when sober, appeared when tripping, on 4 hits of acid and nothing else. Not shape-shifting, but actual hallucinations.

 

[Lachlan]

My second trip on LSD, took one hit of blotter, 45 minutes later I went to sit outside amongst the tree's and ever so slowly my vision went from normal to a gold/red colour spectrum and then as I got comfortable I stared at a tree and eventually the whole world around me turned into a pastel/water coloured world of giant green leaves however they were all moving as if a gentle breeze had come past however I couldnt feel a thing.

That was the most amazing hallucination I've ever seen.

 

[contrast dismissal]

Isn't it technically impossible to hallucinate by definition?

I mean all we have to go by is our perception, if something is perceived then it exists right...

No.

That's what a hallucination is.
The perception of something that does not exist.


"

hallucination |həˌloōsənˈā sh ən|

an experience involving the apparent perception of something not present : he continued to suffer from horrific hallucinations.

"

The hallucination is the conscious interpretation of a critical lack or excess of information/input.
The 'RAM' fills and sections of reality are spliced and mixed like puzzle pieces.

Does the hallucination you see exist inside the mind in a physical way?
No one knows.
But I'd look at it akin to an optical illusion, like when you see an object near you, and one very far away, line up in a way that they both appear to be one thing. They are not, they are just superimposed and remain two objects, even in your mind, the image shows that, but the individual's conscious perception decides whether it makes sense to see two objects, or combine them both into one hallucinated thing.
Often when it does combine things into one, it is symbolic, spiritual, and beautiful, but never forget, that what happened was not real, it was the drugs and, not a sign from god.

 

[Bardeaux]

I've never seen anything that wasnt there. The visuals that mess with me the most are that of real objects/people that I cannot understand. For instance, one time I was on 4g of potent cubensis and I stepped out of my house (which was really really secluded but there were neighbors on the other side of the woods) and I looked towards the fence and there was a man standing there and as soon as I looked he turned slowly and walked away. It was really eerie and I began to debate with myself if I had really seen the man by the fence, trying to figure out if it was just a delusion.

For the most part though there's just alot of stretching/melting and colors "painted" on walls. Like if I have a coke can in front of me the walls will have a reddish tint to them. Light is also a key visual experience for me. Artificial lights seem to be more natural and sunlight seems to be brighter and more complex, like looking through a stained glass window.

 

[jamaica0535]

I got tired of reading about swimming pools full of idiots...

seriously....

It doesn't protect you, your being paranoid in the first place....

As long as your not spouting a bunch of stuff about where you live and how your dealing mass quanities of drugs to whom/wherever the DEA/FBI/whothefuckeverlawenforcmentagency is not going to care enough about you to bother finding you and arresting you for something you said on the internet.


I eat drugs.
You eat drugs.
Most of the people on the forum eat drugs.

Saying someone you met ate some drugs is really just kind of pointless...

I can't really answer your question because i couldn't bring myself to read your post....

 

[greenmeanies]

when falling into an opiate nod, it feels like i am dreaming. i close my eyes and see another reality, but it doesn't matter because i am sleeping in this one.

from the serotonergic psychedelics, with eyes open my reality can change color or intensity (everything breathing/moving) but it never changes its essence. i never see things that are not there, but all my familiar reality will become 'strange'. if i close my eyes, i am submerged in a darkness that is filled with specks of light that begin to dance. from here i can manipulate the passage of time and hear all the overtones of a pin drop. loads of fun. sometimes when you open your eyes you may see something eerie or disturbing, but it's your own damn fault because you were fucking with the passage of time

 

[ford442]

a lot of my best visuals happen in nature - day or night i like to just watch the bushes and trees in their geometric forms.. a lot of things look great tripping out in the sunlight.. then at night it is almost like closed eye visuals where you can barely tell if things are real because they look ghostly... i used to love how the sky turned purple as soon as the acid came on...

 

[killo]

I've seen more "real deliriant" hallucinations on drugs like DOB and DOI.

I've seen "cartoons" animating on the wall on DOx, and I saw "superimosed" patterns that didn't exist "inside" the floor.

Yet on LSD I never see superimposed visuals, I always see morphing, turning, spinning and melting. SAme with mushrooms.

Although I have seen shamanistic enitity-like beings on mushrooms, the visuals are more of a "feeling" than 'see'.

On DOX it seemed it was just "seeing" a visual without any perceptual effect that is profound to occupacy it.

I remember seeing bizzare "people" on DOx. we were walking in the woods at dark and I thought there was lots of people around, everywhere. It was like we were walking through a colony of people and it was making me real paranoid.

I think "hallucination" is a shitty term though.

I rather use "morphing type visual" or "delirant type visual" as a means to describe what I'm seeing.

Also, visuals aren't good enough to describe even the effect of the visual. Let me explain, while on LSD you'll never experience a visual without an extreme perceptual feeling that occompanies it. It's impossible to put in words, but basically on LSD "You create the visual". It's all in your mind.

Wheras on DOB, a good dose....the visuals seem to be "out there" inside of "in my mind". Also, the way I perceive the visuals on DOB is that they are "directly created by DOB, the chemical that I ate". Wheras on LSD I become completely lost in a visual and the perceptual effect that I can't even possibly measure it as much as a DOB visual because as soon as I measure it my mind will change it.

On DOB I can fixxate on the same animation and watch it do "everything it can" but the visuals won't change as they repeats like on good LSD.

Anyway, I hope I made some sense....lol

 

[Octarine]

I get things melting,breathing,twisting completely out of shape,fractals and the usual cid visuals.. All depending on the dose. I do get hallucinations though, my wooden floors looked like they were rising and cracking.. While on the bus tripping off two tabs I would get REALLY strange peripheral visuals.. While not directly looking at people it looked like they were always doing something.. For example there was a lady sitting beside me and on the corner of my eye I could see her head spinning all around.. And another lady I thought she kept looking at me but when I turned to her she was just talking to her friend.