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What are you listening to? Part XXX - Sexxxy tunes for sexxxy folks

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Zopiclone bandit said:
Dios le da sombrero, al que no tiene cabeza 😂😂(God gives a hat to he who has no head)
Never heard that one, here we say " Dios le da pan al que no tiene dientes" (God gives bread to he who has no teeth), meaning that those who get help and aid, are precisely the ones that don't need it.

Anyway, how are you doing, Zopi? Did you get rid of the bupe poison? Have you thought about your next move?
You will find your way, it won't be easy, but you eventually will.
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@F.U.B.A.R. I dunno if you've come across Rick Beato on youtube, but he seems to have a vast knowledge about contemporary music from the 60s to present. He's been a musician in several bands, a sound engineer, producer, a music lecturer, and many many other credentials.

Anyway, in one of his videos about current music and AI, which was pretty interesting, he was talking about how popular a track created by AI had become on Spotify. IIRC.

Apparently it's impossible to spot any difference, just by listening, even for someone as experienced and knowledgable about music as him. And the only way to tell the difference between AI generated music and 'real' music played by a real band, with real instruments, is by using AI to separate out the instrument parts, and vocals, and to listen to each part in isolation.

In that way he was able to tell that one of the parts was very weak, and not up to the standard of anything genuine. I think it may have been the keyboards or rhythm guitar section, but I cant remember. But yeah that was the gist of the idea, and the only way he could do it.



It's pretty scary imo. Just out of principle I'm against it, even if some of it might sound great, and at some point it might be possible for people to create their own ideal bands and songs, by inputting their various favourite tracks and telling AI to create a new track based on those inputs, and tweaking things until it sounds perfect to the listener. I'm sure something like that won't be too far away. But it's just that no talent, skill, or hard work is required to create this stuff, as opposed to real musicians and songwriters.

He's made several more videos about AI since then. I should watch them. I think it's an important topic, and this guy really seems to know what he's talking about. That in itself is becoming more of a rarity on youtube these days, ironically enough in large part due to the huge amount of AI slop that is generated these days. I've tried reporting misleading fake AI videos to youtube, but they dont want to know. They are heavily tied in with the whole thing, one way or another, via Alphabet, the parent company of google and youtube, which is heavily invested in the AI race.
 
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Bleaney said:
@F.U.B.A.R. I dunno if you've come across Rick Beato on youtube, but he seems to have a vast knowledge about contemporary music from the 60s to present. He's been a musician in a band, a sound engineer, producer, a music lecturer, and many many other credentials.

Anyway, in one of his videos about current music and AI, which was pretty interesting, he was talking about how popular a track created by AI had become on Spotify. IIRC.

Apparently the only way to tell the difference between AI generated music and 'real' music played by a real band, with real instruments is by using AI to separate out the instruments, and vocals and to listen to each part in isolation.

In that way he was able to tell that one of the parts was very weak, and not up to the standard of anything genuine.



It's pretty scary imo. Just out of principle I'm against it, even if some of it sounds great, and at some point it might be possible for people to create their own ideal bands and songs, by inputting their various favourite tracks and telling AI to create a new track based on those inputs, and tweaking things until it sounds perfect to the listener. I'm sure something like that won't be too far away. But it's just that no talent, skill, or hard work is required to create this stuff, as opposed to real musicians and songwriters.

He's made several more videos about AI since then. I should watch them. I think it's an important topic, and this guy seems to know what he's talking about. That in itself is becoming more of a rarity on youtube these days, ironically enough in large part due to the huge amount of AI slop that is generated these days. I've tried reporting misleading fake AI videos to youtube, but they dont want to know. They are heavily tied in with the whole thing, one way or another, via Alphabet, the parent company of google and youtube, which is heavily invested in the AI race.
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Yeh, I've seen many of his vids, but not the ones you refer to - yet.

I really don't know what to think of AI music. When it's applied to a genre I like, I find it to be very enjoyable, if a little 'sterile'. It's a guilty pleasure that makes me feel a little icky afterwards - a bit like wanking into your mums knickers... :LOL:
 
Thinking about it, the one saving grave of AI music is that it might replace manufactured and over produced pop music. Why make superstars out of a bunch of vacuous morons when AI can do it cheaper (and better)?

AI has more talent in one byte than those cunts...
 
Till the music industry realise they can do the same with 'serious' music and then it's fucked.

There's a band I like whose name was used for a Spotify upload because there was a big buzz around them at the time. Quite a few people fell for it, even if it was fairly generic ambient AI fare.

Eventually it was taken down, but other acts were similarly affected.
 
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I think there should at the very least be a legal requirement for any AI created music to be clearly labelled as such in either the title, artist name, or somewhere very prominently and unmissable in any descriptions.

As it seems it may be very difficult to tell AI music from non AI music, it seems unethical for the producer not to disclose this.

I'm aware that certain types of electronic music, of the house/techno/trance etc genres has been created on computers for a long time now. But at least that is done by a human being creating all the separate elements and then adjusting the sound mix to suit during the 'sound engineering' phase. But although that is closer to AI than it is to traditional music played by bands with instruments in many ways, it still is created by a human, even if there is a lot of technical assistance, just selecting from a variety of preset beats, and other various elements. So even though some of this stuff has been amazing, I still consider it less skilled (but not necessarily less creative) music, in a way than more traditional music played by actual bands with actual musical instruments.

Dunno if that makes sense, or if it makes me a very old school traditionalist or w/e, but it's just the way I can't help but see things.
 
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