Mental Health What are three main reasons you do not give up the ghost? (commit suicide)

[Robi]

I refuse to let the trauma I experienced as a child and the perpetrator of that trauma win. I won't give up because of that, and because of my friends. They mean everything to me.

respect all replies , but i have thought that as well, im not going to allow the people that hurt me win!Rising up and having a life well lived is like a secret revenge inside my head, ive been studying things to tell folks that are suicidal, that are far from the normal(but so true and vital), the family, the future, afraid to die subjects etcetera etcetera, seems as if that would be enough for the inconsolable, she is dead set on killing herself, and not just an out cry for help, it just feels as if im telling her everything shes heard over and over before, gosh damn i feel bad for suicide hotlines and such, there is just no convincing some folks, especially if they want to hurt their family with a suicide, she doesnt believe in a brighter future, she is a self-harmer, like i said , i appreciated all replies, but that hit home Eli,hope it can crack thru her hard shell, pardon the rant of appreciation, enjoy you so,and its tooooo damn cool for you to have a new place, best of luck in all things and a possible a furry new family member in your life, im like jasper with my love of dogs, very much hope you get your cat!

 

[Robi]

OH!! I understand. In that case....

Prior to my son's existence, my father was a huge reason that I would decide against suicide. My dad's older brother killed himself and knowing how much it's affected my dad makes me never want to put him through that kind of torture again. Death of a loved one is hard enough but when it's suicide it is infinitely more painful and difficult. Knowing that it was preventable just hurts so much. And it's a pain that never goes away either.

Now....having said all of that...I have had moments of severely poor judgement and have actually attempted suicide, 6 times altogether. 6 attempts, 6 failures. I stopped trying after the 6th time because I clearly suck at it lol
And fast forward to now, I'm married to my best friend, very very happy, sober, and of course I have my precious son who is the entire meaning of my life. Imagine if I had been successful at any of those 6 attempts. I would never have known this love and happiness and meaning and purpose. What an incredible waste.

What I'm getting at is that your friend just needs to have some faith and hold on for the future that is waiting ahead of them. It might not involve marriage and sobriety and a son like me, but it definitely involves some stuff worth holding on for.

amazing your strength, deep inside i want to wash my hands of her, isnt that awful and selfish? yep yep, but im not, ty songbird

 

[Robi]

Numbers 1, 2 & 3, squared: my son.

The end.

i thought i knew love, till i loved a child, i know you love hard and have loved, but isnt this love mind blowing? people talk of love, know it all in their way, but have a baby,whew,i just smile and laugh inside because now you know the deepest of love, not just that eros and agape goop(Jokes & cackles .......... 1, 2 & squared)

 

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

Family family family

Not always having symptoms

Not my life to take

 

[nznity]

Cuz I've already got to this point and suffered alot to get where I am.
Friends and family
Coz lyf iz kewl kiddos.
cause I'm a bad loser and I won't let my thoughts win this battle.
Too many failed attempts already.
Life is an absurd, it has no meaning. So why bother to kill myself? I'll just enjoy the ride till its time.

 

[PtahTek]

2) An on-board will to survive.

Still workin on the third

Life is an absurd, it has no meaning.

This is reminiscent of a loved one and former here.

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

Kids
Pets
Kids

 

[AbbeyLee]

a) It's very hard to get right (and very easy to make things worse).

b) Daughter

c) I can usually get hold of something to make it bearable, even enjoyable.

 

[Mjäll]

Fear of death
Faith in myself and the world (i count this as one and the same in the good spirit of holistic awareness)
Lack of impulsiveness / strong inhibitions (probably also one and the same in a way)

 

[imo_incolae]

For me it's because life is so rare and unique. It seems so easy to create life. You have sex and things happen and a baby appears. But during that time so many potential babies are not born. There were potential other humans who wanted your place. There isn't just one baby in the making from the start. It's a battle to compete for the egg. The fact that YOU happened to win that competition is amazing quite frankly. The odds are stacked against you. In a betting shop you'd probably have to be very rich and very stupid to spend so much time and money trying to beat those odds. And, you probably would never be able to do it!
And the reward is having the experience no other animal (as far as we know) nor any other being (as far as we know) can have in a weird but wonderful self healing and transforming meat suit with the most complex form of consciousness by which to experience existence.

Things can get bad, really bad. But the fact you can actually experience what that means when endless haven't and won't ever get that chance makes it special. How many unborn children if they could be aware would want to experience what you are experiencing right now no matter how shit is possibly might be?
The forces of nature, of the universe, pushing and pulling and doing their thing while at the same remarkably there is enough balance and harmony that none of it crashes into oblivion. Too much of this, too little of that and the entire show ends.

Also, the fact you will NEVER get this opportunity again is a more powerful realization when you really think about it than anything else.
You wake up everyday and take it all for granted because you're used to your body doing most of the work without you being aware of it. You get yourself to sleep and then you wake up. All you need is the conscious intention to sleep and your body does the rest, just like everything else. You don't process your food, your body does it. You don't shuttle nutrients around, your body does it. You don't replace and refill the chemicals in your brain (unless you are sick and need to artificially do it), your body does it. One of these days that won't be happening anymore. And this rare and unique will return to where it all began, nothingness. Seems obvious and not a big deal until it dawns on you that you assume it's not a big deal precisely because you base life on not understanding what the opposite of that is. You are automatically reassured because the chances are, you will live on. You can think about the end happening but you know you'll wake up tomorrow and then the day after and the day after that.

 

[Jerry Atrick]

For me it's because life is so rare and unique. It seems so easy to create life. You have sex and things happen and a baby appears. But during that time so many potential babies are not born. There were potential other humans who wanted your place. There isn't just one baby in the making from the start. It's a battle to compete for the egg. The fact that YOU happened to win that competition is amazing quite frankly. The odds are stacked against you. In a betting shop you'd probably have to be very rich and very stupid to spend so much time and money trying to beat those odds. And, you probably would never be able to do it!
And the reward is having the experience no other animal (as far as we know) nor any other being (as far as we know) can have in a weird but wonderful self healing and transforming meat suit with the most complex form of consciousness by which to experience existence.

Things can get bad, really bad. But the fact you can actually experience what that means when endless haven't and won't ever get that chance makes it special. How many unborn children if they could be aware would want to experience what you are experiencing right now no matter how shit is possibly might be?
The forces of nature, of the universe, pushing and pulling and doing their thing while at the same remarkably there is enough balance and harmony that none of it crashes into oblivion. Too much of this, too little of that and the entire show ends.

Also, the fact you will NEVER get this opportunity again is a more powerful realization when you really think about it than anything else.
You wake up everyday and take it all for granted because you're used to your body doing most of the work without you being aware of it. You get yourself to sleep and then you wake up. All you need is the conscious intention to sleep and your body does the rest, just like everything else. You don't process your food, your body does it. You don't shuttle nutrients around, your body does it. You don't replace and refill the chemicals in your brain (unless you are sick and need to artificially do it), your body does it. One of these days that won't be happening anymore. And this rare and unique will return to where it all began, nothingness. Seems obvious and not a big deal until it dawns on you that you assume it's not a big deal precisely because you base life on not understanding what the opposite of that is. You are automatically reassured because the chances are, you will live on. You can think about the end happening but you know you'll wake up tomorrow and then the day after and the day after that.

Your first paragraph reminded me of this meme:

On a more serious note, I've often pondered that for someone who doesn't have faith in supernatural religious figures, it is certainly a leap of faith to go to sleep every night, lose almost all consciousness save for REM sleep dreaming, and know with absolute certainty that you will in fact wake up in the morning. Something we truly take for granted as our head hits the pillow each night.

 

[n3ophy7e]

For me it's because life is so rare and unique. It seems so easy to create life. You have sex and things happen and a baby appears. But during that time so many potential babies are not born. There were potential other humans who wanted your place. There isn't just one baby in the making from the start. It's a battle to compete for the egg. The fact that YOU happened to win that competition is amazing quite frankly. The odds are stacked against you. In a betting shop you'd probably have to be very rich and very stupid to spend so much time and money trying to beat those odds. And, you probably would never be able to do it!
And the reward is having the experience no other animal (as far as we know) nor any other being (as far as we know) can have in a weird but wonderful self healing and transforming meat suit with the most complex form of consciousness by which to experience existence.

Things can get bad, really bad. But the fact you can actually experience what that means when endless haven't and won't ever get that chance makes it special. How many unborn children if they could be aware would want to experience what you are experiencing right now no matter how shit is possibly might be?
The forces of nature, of the universe, pushing and pulling and doing their thing while at the same remarkably there is enough balance and harmony that none of it crashes into oblivion. Too much of this, too little of that and the entire show ends.

Also, the fact you will NEVER get this opportunity again is a more powerful realization when you really think about it than anything else.
You wake up everyday and take it all for granted because you're used to your body doing most of the work without you being aware of it. You get yourself to sleep and then you wake up. All you need is the conscious intention to sleep and your body does the rest, just like everything else. You don't process your food, your body does it. You don't shuttle nutrients around, your body does it. You don't replace and refill the chemicals in your brain (unless you are sick and need to artificially do it), your body does it. One of these days that won't be happening anymore. And this rare and unique will return to where it all began, nothingness. Seems obvious and not a big deal until it dawns on you that you assume it's not a big deal precisely because you base life on not understanding what the opposite of that is. You are automatically reassured because the chances are, you will live on. You can think about the end happening but you know you'll wake up tomorrow and then the day after and the day after that.

That is beautiful

 

[Kellsee]

For me it's because life is so rare and unique. It seems so easy to create life. You have sex and things happen and a baby appears. But during that time so many potential babies are not born. There were potential other humans who wanted your place. There isn't just one baby in the making from the start. It's a battle to compete for the egg. The fact that YOU happened to win that competition is amazing quite frankly. The odds are stacked against you. In a betting shop you'd probably have to be very rich and very stupid to spend so much time and money trying to beat those odds. And, you probably would never be able to do it!
And the reward is having the experience no other animal (as far as we know) nor any other being (as far as we know) can have in a weird but wonderful self healing and transforming meat suit with the most complex form of consciousness by which to experience existence.

Things can get bad, really bad. But the fact you can actually experience what that means when endless haven't and won't ever get that chance makes it special. How many unborn children if they could be aware would want to experience what you are experiencing right now no matter how shit is possibly might be?
The forces of nature, of the universe, pushing and pulling and doing their thing while at the same remarkably there is enough balance and harmony that none of it crashes into oblivion. Too much of this, too little of that and the entire show ends.

Also, the fact you will NEVER get this opportunity again is a more powerful realization when you really think about it than anything else.
You wake up everyday and take it all for granted because you're used to your body doing most of the work without you being aware of it. You get yourself to sleep and then you wake up. All you need is the conscious intention to sleep and your body does the rest, just like everything else. You don't process your food, your body does it. You don't shuttle nutrients around, your body does it. You don't replace and refill the chemicals in your brain (unless you are sick and need to artificially do it), your body does it. One of these days that won't be happening anymore. And this rare and unique will return to where it all began, nothingness. Seems obvious and not a big deal until it dawns on you that you assume it's not a big deal precisely because you base life on not understanding what the opposite of that is. You are automatically reassured because the chances are, you will live on. You can think about the end happening but you know you'll wake up tomorrow and then the day after and the day after that.

Hello God...It's me Kellsee

Can I have this to read to my children every night...and morning and at lunch time??

You should work for crisis. If that cant talk someone into backing away from that cliff then...hell...just push them off of it...they already dead

Got me convinced. Best words I've read in a longtime. Beautiful! TY❤❤❤

 

[Survival0200]

I'm too curious. I want to know what happens to me in the end.

If you give up the ghost you'll never know what happened.

 

[imo_incolae]

Your first paragraph reminded me of this meme:

On a more serious note, I've often pondered that for someone who doesn't have faith in supernatural religious figures, it is certainly a leap of faith to go to sleep every night, lose almost all consciousness save for REM sleep dreaming, and know with absolute certainty that you will in fact wake up in the morning. Something we truly take for granted as our head hits the pillow each night.

The meme is legendary. If life could be distilled down to the smallest piece of information, it would be that little kilobyte of data.
Tesla should give up with rockets and just send that jpg into space.

It is a monumental leap of faith. I think it's the only time we are capable of surrendering to the nothingness. But we do so based on the promise we will wake up to somethingness again. Which is kinda prescient for us Westerners. We only agree if WE get something out of it and so long as WE get the better deal! Who do we strike that bargain with? Who is moderating that agreement? Who even is the 'other' side of the agreement? If we are 'us' and 'us' is this person we think we are somewhere between our eyes or above our shoulders, then who is our body? If our body is seperate to us (we like to think this way in the West) then what or who are we making this deal with anyway? What's it even about? We are essentially expecting nature, the universe, reality or, like you say, something that exists beyond us, to make all this happen.

When you think about it like that, we really do want to live so much, even if we don't so. The basis for our existence is kinda like children at Christmas, we long for the morrow to experience the gifts under the tree. There is in a sense an instrinsic element of childlike innocence there. We don't know what exists beyond and it frightens us and we need reassurance it won't happen (just yet anyway) and yet we know we can't control what exists beyond because a) we don't know what it is and b) we know whatever it is transcends all things. Whatever it exists exists beyond reality as we know it. We make a promise with our maker each time we go to sleep (whoever or whatever that is), the maker kisses us goodnight, turns the light out and we are assured it will all continue tomorrow.

Let's not forget why we do that. It doesn't have to be labeled or adhere to ideologies to fit a narrative. Doesn't need tarnished with projections, agendas, rherotic etc. It is simply the process of trusting in the unknown that we will travel through it back to what is familar. Pretty powerful thought considering many of us (I imagine) lose track of how complex that process is. Kids do it, adults do it. You could argue every sentient being does it.

That is beautiful

Thanks

Hello God...It's me Kellsee

Can I have this to read to my children every night...and morning and at lunch time??

You should work for crisis. If that cant talk someone into backing away from that cliff then...hell...just push them off of it...they already dead

Got me convinced. Best words I've read in a longtime. Beautiful! TY❤❤❤

You can take these words and do as you wish there are not just mine, they belong to all of us. I just used my little noggin to jumble them up so they made sense!

I'm too curious. I want to know what happens to me in the end.

If you give up the ghost you'll never know what happened.

That IS the question.
And is it the end?

 

[The Shadow Self]

Because I love myself enough to not do so.
As imperfect as the world and life can be, that's more than enough for me...

 

[AbbeyLee]

I'm too curious. I want to know what happens to me in the end.

If you give up the ghost you'll never know what happened.

LOL. I have this as well. It is getting a bit predictable though

 

[nznity]

I wanna do it every other day but then as the day goes by... the sensation subsidies.

 

[Neuroborean]

I think it's a sin against God/life/yourself, but I need to explain this:
you have conscience, most matter in the Universe doesn't SEEM to have conscience, or well, even life, so you're very exceptional, maybe incredibly exceptional
whatever has created that, even if it's randomness is an incredible lack of respect, firstly against any hypothetical creator and if you don't believe in something like that, against yourself, and against life, because they are miraculous, however you want to look at it. The probability of being free (whatever that means) because of having self-conscioussness as a part of the universe is so minute that not value that it's itself a form of ignorance (focusing on pain instead of the infinite power we hold in ourselves just for being this way).
You may not like what you're living, but giving up is like denying that things can get better, which is literally unknown, and then you're just throwing yourself into despair, which is just a form of weakness and just a temporary emotion.
You probably are not thinking in a lot of positive things you've lived, you've learned and you could still do if you resist the fucky times are heading/happening.

 

[Robi]

For me it's because life is so rare and unique. It seems so easy to create life. You have sex and things happen and a baby appears. But during that time so many potential babies are not born. There were potential other humans who wanted your place. There isn't just one baby in the making from the start. It's a battle to compete for the egg. The fact that YOU happened to win that competition is amazing quite frankly. The odds are stacked against you. In a betting shop you'd probably have to be very rich and very stupid to spend so much time and money trying to beat those odds. And, you probably would never be able to do it!
And the reward is having the experience no other animal (as far as we know) nor any other being (as far as we know) can have in a weird but wonderful self healing and transforming meat suit with the most complex form of consciousness by which to experience existence.

Things can get bad, really bad. But the fact you can actually experience what that means when endless haven't and won't ever get that chance makes it special. How many unborn children if they could be aware would want to experience what you are experiencing right now no matter how shit is possibly might be?
The forces of nature, of the universe, pushing and pulling and doing their thing while at the same remarkably there is enough balance and harmony that none of it crashes into oblivion. Too much of this, too little of that and the entire show ends.

Also, the fact you will NEVER get this opportunity again is a more powerful realization when you really think about it than anything else.
You wake up everyday and take it all for granted because you're used to your body doing most of the work without you being aware of it. You get yourself to sleep and then you wake up. All you need is the conscious intention to sleep and your body does the rest, just like everything else. You don't process your food, your body does it. You don't shuttle nutrients around, your body does it. You don't replace and refill the chemicals in your brain (unless you are sick and need to artificially do it), your body does it. One of these days that won't be happening anymore. And this rare and unique will return to where it all began, nothingness. Seems obvious and not a big deal until it dawns on you that you assume it's not a big deal precisely because you base life on not understanding what the opposite of that is. You are automatically reassured because the chances are, you will live on. You can think about the end happening but you know you'll wake up tomorrow and then the day after and the day after that.

now thats some shit i can tell her and she possible hold onto, ty

GMO(pardon, how great grandmama Linda types OMG to me in her sweet texts, i never correct her) I`d eat her meat suit, ha! not gramma..........Lady G`s