Stimulants what amphetemine is best for social and all around functioning?

[Need4speed]

adderal ?
dexedrine?

i dont know anything about the " meth" family drugs?


im not loooking for shoot IV or smoke, snort a line or swallow a pill yes

wich is best for weekend use and cost/benefit ratio from your expereinces?

 

[PinK~cloud]

I'd say dextroamphetamine because it has less "anxiety" to it IMO. You can get it in the popularly prescribed Vyvanse. It's kind of the new hot medicine for managing ADD and ADHD.

 

[Need4speed]

how long does the " stim high" last ?

 

[Renz Envy]

Methamphetamine. Even though I don't recommend starting it.

It has the highest reward center effects with pretty mild stimulant effects. This is in reasonable doses like 20mg. With plenty of sleep and a full belly, you shouldn't feel too much of a comedown. More of a gradual decrease of energy followed by relaxation. You don't need to smoke it. I actually prefer rectal and oral as it lasts longer and its less compulsive.

In low doses you may feel relaxed, but fully concentrated and outgoing at the same time.

But yeah I don't advise meth. It's so addicting that only 6% of the people who seek treatment for addiction are able to quit. I just went cold turkey today after 3 weeks of moderate use, and it was very hard to concentrate, move, eat, or speak.

I'd say dextroamphetamine because it has less "anxiety" to it IMO. You can get it in the popularly prescribed Vyvanse. It's kind of the new hot medicine for managing ADD and ADHD.

Dex amp is a close second bro, but there really is no beating moderate meth use as far as amphetamines go socially. Dex has less serotonin release and more NE release, which can cause anxiety especially with tolerance.

 

[Swimmingdancer]

I think this is a very subjective thing. It greatly depends on the person. Everyone has different preferences regarding what kind of amphetamine or stimulant allows them to function best and most discreetly. We have different brains, different bodies, different metabolisms, and experience different effects from drugs. I would suggest the first time you take a new drug you not have to be anywhere in public or do anything important so you can see how it affects you.

 

[ErgicMergic]

Don't use meth for treating social anxiety, that's like using heroin for pain relief. Sure, it can be very effective if used very conservatively with a careful titrated amount and spaced out dosing, but let's look at the very likely possibility: when you have a bag of crystal meth or heroin and you know that just a bit more (to the bare eye) will get you very euphoric, who's to say your brain won't trick you into eventually start eyeballing higher and higher dosages. Crystal Meth is far too powerful for its price to be used for anything other than recreation, imo.

Don't put anything up your nose or up your ass if you are hoping to keep tolerance down and addiction at bay, as any ROA that makes the drug absorb faster than oral becomes far more euphoric (and more neurotoxic, in the case of amps) than the slowly absorbed oral route.

I've stuck with the oral route for every drug I've done (I've snorted Lyrica twice though for the lulz, didn't do anything), and haven't used street drugs other than LSD, which I feel lets me walk away from dependence much easier than others, as I don't really get "high." I feel like any ROA other than the oral/sublingual route, including plugging, is abusing your medication.

If you want to get high, well, then that's a whole different story.

 

[Need4speed]

well ritalin or coke dont really " spark " me up

the experimnenting will comtinue, as far as the pharmies it will be much harder seeeing that i need to make DR appts and such

 

[ErgicMergic]

This is against HR, and you shouldn't do this . I am just making a point...

Having said that, if by "sparking up" you mean a fire under your ass, I would recommend higher dose Adderall or snorting/plugging meth, possibly with some Ephedrine thrown in for more PNS stimulation. Watch your heart, though, PNS stimulants will destroy it.

I'm only saying this since I believe in helping people do whatever they want to do with their lives, and that BL should be all about the truth. Please take in to consideration my first post, though.

What do you want? To get high or to function better "socially" and "all around?" Keep in mind that high dose stimulants (enough to get you high) actually decrease focus and memory as far as "all around functioning" goes.

Check out these experiences before you even think about buying some meth, people stronger than you have been destroyed by it.

 

[Swimmingdancer]

Oh I guess I assumed the OP meant that they wanted to get high but still be able to function normally and appear sober and that they were hoping to improve their socialness, motivation/focus etc or at least not hinder those things. Maybe some clarification would help. But I still think it is totally subjective and everyone is going to have different results.

 

[Need4speed]

by " spark" me up i meant to feel alive, conversate and not want to shell up as fast

i also want to have better conversational boost

 

[adder]

Don't use meth for treating social anxiety, that's like using heroin for pain relief.

Not a good comparison because you could place a lot of opioids in place of "heroin". Really, it isn't superior to morphine in terms of the size of addiction it may cause. Using heroin for pain relief is much more justified than using methamphetamine for social anxiety as actually pure heroin would be very similar in effects to morphine (if you didn't tell a patient with chronic pain that you substituted morphine with heroin, he/she would see no difference mostly, it's not like e.g. phenadoxone vs. levorphanol).

No amphetamine is suitable for treating social anxiety. Long "treatment" would end up not only with much bigger social anxiety but also with some other psychiatric disorders.

 

[ErgicMergic]

We don't have pure heroin in the United States, just street heroin, which has the ability to vary in potency with each batch you buy. It can be absolute crap one time and cut with fentanyl the next.

My point was that street heroin and crystal methamphetamine are not regulated in terms of potency, and are far too powerful to be used in a responsible manner. Most people thinking about using those two substances on a regular basis in the first place probably lean towards having an addictive personality, and these two drugs are extremely euphoric, while being potent at the same time, a win-win for recreation and a lose-lose for medicinal use.

 

[Renz Envy]

Nevermind, disregard meth, I've only used it a couple of times and remembered being obnoxious with it.

Methylaminorex is what I meant. The come up is similar to MDMA, you may feel anxious for 5-10 minutes, but there is a definite serotonin high and euphoria that is very relaxing. I have been using 4MAR in public for quite a while without knowing. I just figured it was very very good meth. Even at low doses I feel like saying "hi" and introducing myself to people.

 

[shreddedlettuce]

Must it be a stimulant?
There are other non-stimulant legit meds that might help with far less worrying side effects.

 

[belfort]

the problem with using something spark up your conversations is that without it, socializing will see quite boring..i know, i used GHB for many social occasions and i loved it, i think its the best social lubricant out there but now without it, socializing simply isnt half the fun..

forget meth, if i were you id try to find Ghb..unless u are adamant about it being a stimulant...

 

[adder]

The question in this thread only proves that a lot of drug addiction is caused by problems with functioning in society in the beginning.

In my opinion you should not use any stimulant. You may be just shy or you may suffer from some kind of social phobia. In either case stimulant use will quickly become abuse because if SomeStimulant helps you once, you will use it the second time, and there you go - you're in a dangerous loop. You will find yourself in the need of taking something every day, not on weekends because if you do something on Saturday, you will eventually start feeling crappy on Sunday, so you'll do "a line" on Sunday too, then you will feel like shit on Monday - voila, you break your rule you do it only on weekends. And maybe you need to go to school/work, this is going to make it difficult at some point. Daily drug administration will either cause social phobia eventually or terribly deepen already existing social phobia. And the other side effects depend on the drug you get stuck on. You don't actually have to get addicted to a stimulant to make it worse, it may be any drug. Sure, you may function superbly under the effects of SomeDrug even for years but eventually you will realize you're addicted and life sucks for real.

You will be in the same place you are now with your socializing problems but to do anything with it you will have to solve your drug problem first then. This is a dangerous path you want to choose for solving your problem. Think about all the time you may lose for this and the very same time you could devote to something that'd really help you find yourself comfortable among people without the use of drugs. Really, if you're now at point 0, then in, say 3 years, you're not going to be at +3 but rather at -3...

I don't totally condemn use of drugs. But you seem to be in a group of much higher risk than an average healthy person and in my humble opinion you should just take notice of that before getting yourself some monkey on your back. Safe using is hardly possible as you actually state from the beginning you're looking for something that you will definitely need to take daily. And taken daily any drug produces some problems in the long run, psychological and/or physical. With some amphetamine even with weekend use you will notice bad side effects shortly if you do it for like a year but then again, if you do it for a year, it'll become impossible to keep it only on weekends.

Sorry for this long disquisition on "how you can end up bad" but I think I'm not really far from truth here. I know how drugs can destroy sensitive people as I've seen it myself, and I've been there myself too when I heavily took opioids and benzodiazepines (nobody gave me a syringe with morphine solution in it, I started from taking codeine orally, then I i.m.'ed it and soon I had a contact I could get all pharmaceuticals available in the country and a lot more not available in Poland from). The final result after almost 10 years? I've been on a substitute for 1.5 years and it's the longest time with no real binge, yet I had "slip-ups", and during one year period I only managed to go from 16mg clonazepam down to 3mg clonazepam, the process is terribly slow and I get help from a physician only with this benzodiazepine problem.

I know you're far from that and you probably think you could never let something like that happen. I'll tell you something - I didn't think either.

Wish you you find some non-drug way to overcome your social anxiety problem.

 

[Butternut_Squash]

I didn't get the impression from OP that it was necessarily a daily thing - more like the social use of alcohol at the weekends.
Ritalin makes me anxious as does coke.
Plain old amphetamine (preferably dexamp) is good for social situations (for me). However, tolerance to the euphoric recreational effects builds fast....

BUT - from my experience, the addictive potential of amphetamines is incredible. For me, more so than ANY other drug. As in, if I am in possession of them, I will take them non stop all day everyday (just finished over a gram and a half of amphet in 5 days. Pure amphet. Easily enough for 20 or more strong doses. These were weekdays.)
The problem is, when you are on them life is easier. You do better in school/work and have better relationships with others around you. Keep that in mind.

 

[lexaurin]

The question in this thread only proves that a lot of drug addiction is caused by problems with functioning in society in the beginning.

In my opinion you should not use any stimulant. You may be just shy or you may suffer from some kind of social phobia. In either case stimulant use will quickly become abuse because if SomeStimulant helps you once, you will use it the second time, and there you go - you're in a dangerous loop. You will find yourself in the need of taking something every day, not on weekends because if you do something on Saturday, you will eventually start feeling crappy on Sunday, so you'll do "a line" on Sunday too, then you will feel like shit on Monday - voila, you break your rule you do it only on weekends. And maybe you need to go to school/work, this is going to make it difficult at some point. Daily drug administration will either cause social phobia eventually or terribly deepen already existing social phobia. And the other side effects depend on the drug you get stuck on. You don't actually have to get addicted to a stimulant to make it worse, it may be any drug. Sure, you may function superbly under the effects of SomeDrug even for years but eventually you will realize you're addicted and life sucks for real.

You will be in the same place you are now with your socializing problems but to do anything with it you will have to solve your drug problem first then. This is a dangerous path you want to choose for solving your problem. Think about all the time you may lose for this and the very same time you could devote to something that'd really help you find yourself comfortable among people without the use of drugs. Really, if you're now at point 0, then in, say 3 years, you're not going to be at +3 but rather at -3...

I don't totally condemn use of drugs. But you seem to be in a group of much higher risk than an average healthy person and in my humble opinion you should just take notice of that before getting yourself some monkey on your back. Safe using is hardly possible as you actually state from the beginning you're looking for something that you will definitely need to take daily. And taken daily any drug produces some problems in the long run, psychological and/or physical. With some amphetamine even with weekend use you will notice bad side effects shortly if you do it for like a year but then again, if you do it for a year, it'll become impossible to keep it only on weekends.

Sorry for this long disquisition on "how you can end up bad" but I think I'm not really far from truth here. I know how drugs can destroy sensitive people as I've seen it myself, and I've been there myself too when I heavily took opioids and benzodiazepines (nobody gave me a syringe with morphine solution in it, I started from taking codeine orally, then I i.m.'ed it and soon I had a contact I could get all pharmaceuticals available in the country and a lot more not available in Poland from). The final result after almost 10 years? I've been on a substitute for 1.5 years and it's the longest time with no real binge, yet I had "slip-ups", and during one year period I only managed to go from 16mg clonazepam down to 3mg clonazepam, the process is terribly slow and I get help from a physician only with this benzodiazepine problem.

I know you're far from that and you probably think you could never let something like that happen. I'll tell you something - I didn't think either.

Wish you you find some non-drug way to overcome your social anxiety problem.

Thanks for this fantastic post .
I too have social phobia and threw away 7 years of my life with daily weed smoking.
Which of course made the situation much worse.

 

[gayboy]

I think the kid would do better without meth!

 

[belfort]

lexaurin-have you eliminated your social phobia now without drugs??if so, how?